Quote:Parents of Evan Curry are outraged after their teenage son is outed by his high school principal just before graduation.

The parents say their son wasn't only forced out of the closet - he was silenced when he planned to come out to his family and friends during his valedictorian speech.

The principal at Twin Peaks Charter School called Alise Curry and Don Young to tell them their son, the valedictorian, would not be allowed to give the speech at graduation. The principal also informed them their Evan was gay.

"I think it goes without saying we're unconditionally supportive of our child," Alise Curry said in a small news conference.

After being outed by his principal before he had a chance to tell his parents and the rest of the world, Evan was too embarrassed to stand in front of a handful of cameras to share his story. So instead, his parents did.

"So, first of all, Mr. Bachmann outed Evan to us. Which was not the way Evan wanted it to happen," Alise Curry said.

Bachmann who called Evan's dad to tell him he wasn't going to allow his son's speech, and it was also Bachmann who told Evan's parents their son is gay.

Both of them had no clue.

"The act of outing someone is dangerous and irresponsible," said Mardi Moore, the executive director of Out Boulder. "We're lucky in this case that Evan is in such good hands."

The student with a 4.5 grade point average with a scholarship waiting for him at Rutgers University had been silenced by an administration who didn't feel his message was appropriate.

"There was just silence. There was no acknowledgment of Evan's accomplishments. And as a parent that was the most hurtful thing for me," Alise Curry said. "I would appreciate a sincere apology. I'm not sure we can get one at this point."

The school board released a statement in response, which in part says "the valedictorian failed to follow the guidelines established by the school...and included references to personal matters of a sexual nature - topics not appropriate for a speech at a graduation ceremony."

http://www.cbs46.com/story/29210911/co-h...to-parents

I'm torn a bit here. Probably not the right decision outing the kid, but certainly the right decision to not let him speak. I guess the principle really didn't have a choice though. How else would you explain that the speech won't fly?

I believe it was the late great Lewis Grizzard who said "there must have been a mess in that closet before all these folks started coming out of it"

(06-02-2015 03:35 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:Parents of Evan Curry are outraged after their teenage son is outed by his high school principal just before graduation.

The parents say their son wasn't only forced out of the closet - he was silenced when he planned to come out to his family and friends during his valedictorian speech.

The principal at Twin Peaks Charter School called Alise Curry and Don Young to tell them their son, the valedictorian, would not be allowed to give the speech at graduation. The principal also informed them their Evan was gay.

"I think it goes without saying we're unconditionally supportive of our child," Alise Curry said in a small news conference.

After being outed by his principal before he had a chance to tell his parents and the rest of the world, Evan was too embarrassed to stand in front of a handful of cameras to share his story. So instead, his parents did.

"So, first of all, Mr. Bachmann outed Evan to us. Which was not the way Evan wanted it to happen," Alise Curry said.

Bachmann who called Evan's dad to tell him he wasn't going to allow his son's speech, and it was also Bachmann who told Evan's parents their son is gay.

Both of them had no clue.

"The act of outing someone is dangerous and irresponsible," said Mardi Moore, the executive director of Out Boulder. "We're lucky in this case that Evan is in such good hands."

The student with a 4.5 grade point average with a scholarship waiting for him at Rutgers University had been silenced by an administration who didn't feel his message was appropriate.

"There was just silence. There was no acknowledgment of Evan's accomplishments. And as a parent that was the most hurtful thing for me," Alise Curry said. "I would appreciate a sincere apology. I'm not sure we can get one at this point."

The school board released a statement in response, which in part says "the valedictorian failed to follow the guidelines established by the school...and included references to personal matters of a sexual nature - topics not appropriate for a speech at a graduation ceremony."

http://www.cbs46.com/story/29210911/co-h...to-parents

I'm torn a bit here. Probably not the right decision outing the kid, but certainly the right decision to not let him speak. I guess the principle really didn't have a choice though. How else would you explain that the speech won't fly?

Why do you hate the 1st amendment?

Definitely messed up, the principal could have at least given him a chance to tell his parents first. I'd have to read the speech to know if it was inappropriate, just mentioning being gay isn't necessarily inappropriate. Kind of weird he was planning a grand unveiling at his graduation speech.

Ole Evan really wanted his 15 minutes. He wanted so badly to bask in people telling him how brave he is.

(06-02-2015 03:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

Quote:I'm torn a bit here. Probably not the right decision outing the kid, but certainly the right decision to not let him speak. I guess the principle really didn't have a choice though. How else would you explain that the speech won't fly?

Why do you hate the 1st amendment?

Not sure it fully applies to a public stage.

ER, if I were the principal, I probably wouldn't have told the parents 'why'. I'm sure he would have gotten in trouble for that as well, but at least he would have been erring on the side of precaution/safety/discretion for the 'child' who probably is an adult anyway. I certainly would have fully explained it to the 'child', and then directed the parents to the child... maybe even offering to host a sit down with professionals? If the child wished to blame it on the principal and not tell the parents the truth. THEN IMO it would have been okay for the principal to discuss it... again, assuming the 'child' isn't an adult in which case I think I'd have to simply tell the parents that his speech violated the rules... here are the rules... As your child for the speech. If you disagree after reading it, then we can talk about it. At that point, the child would have outed himself, and if the child refused to provide the speech to the parents, then the principal could just stand by his position.

I'm sure the parents might get mad, and maybe even cause a stink... but I'd sleep fine as the principal having enforced the rules AND protected the child's privacy. It's not 'his' speech to present... especially if it isn't delivered.

(06-02-2015 03:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 03:35 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:Parents of Evan Curry are outraged after their teenage son is outed by his high school principal just before graduation.

The parents say their son wasn't only forced out of the closet - he was silenced when he planned to come out to his family and friends during his valedictorian speech.

The principal at Twin Peaks Charter School called Alise Curry and Don Young to tell them their son, the valedictorian, would not be allowed to give the speech at graduation. The principal also informed them their Evan was gay.

"I think it goes without saying we're unconditionally supportive of our child," Alise Curry said in a small news conference.

After being outed by his principal before he had a chance to tell his parents and the rest of the world, Evan was too embarrassed to stand in front of a handful of cameras to share his story. So instead, his parents did.

"So, first of all, Mr. Bachmann outed Evan to us. Which was not the way Evan wanted it to happen," Alise Curry said.

Bachmann who called Evan's dad to tell him he wasn't going to allow his son's speech, and it was also Bachmann who told Evan's parents their son is gay.

Both of them had no clue.

"The act of outing someone is dangerous and irresponsible," said Mardi Moore, the executive director of Out Boulder. "We're lucky in this case that Evan is in such good hands."

The student with a 4.5 grade point average with a scholarship waiting for him at Rutgers University had been silenced by an administration who didn't feel his message was appropriate.

"There was just silence. There was no acknowledgment of Evan's accomplishments. And as a parent that was the most hurtful thing for me," Alise Curry said. "I would appreciate a sincere apology. I'm not sure we can get one at this point."

The school board released a statement in response, which in part says "the valedictorian failed to follow the guidelines established by the school...and included references to personal matters of a sexual nature - topics not appropriate for a speech at a graduation ceremony."

http://www.cbs46.com/story/29210911/co-h...to-parents

I'm torn a bit here. Probably not the right decision outing the kid, but certainly the right decision to not let him speak. I guess the principle really didn't have a choice though. How else would you explain that the speech won't fly?

Why do you hate the 1st amendment?

The speech is supposed to be about the graduating class, not him. That would not have been appropriate for a formal ceremony. He should have told his parents and then made an announcement on Facebook or even in the lunchroom.

(06-02-2015 04:01 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 03:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

Quote:I'm torn a bit here. Probably not the right decision outing the kid, but certainly the right decision to not let him speak. I guess the principle really didn't have a choice though. How else would you explain that the speech won't fly?

Why do you hate the 1st amendment?

Not sure it fully applies to a public stage.

ER, if I were the principal, I probably wouldn't have told the parents 'why'. I'm sure he would have gotten in trouble for that as well, but at least he would have been erring on the side of precaution/safety/discretion for the 'child' who probably is an adult anyway. I certainly would have fully explained it to the 'child', and then directed the parents to the child... maybe even offering to host a sit down with professionals? If the child wished to blame it on the principal and not tell the parents the truth. THEN IMO it would have been okay for the principal to discuss it... again, assuming the 'child' isn't an adult in which case I think I'd have to simply tell the parents that his speech violated the rules... here are the rules... As your child for the speech. If you disagree after reading it, then we can talk about it. At that point, the child would have outed himself, and if the child refused to provide the speech to the parents, then the principal could just stand by his position.

I'm sure the parents might get mad, and maybe even cause a stink... but I'd sleep fine as the principal having enforced the rules AND protected the child's privacy. It's not 'his' speech to present... especially if it isn't delivered.

It was definitely a tough spot for the principal to be put in. I wouldn't have outed him unless he was engaging in unhealthy behavior, in which I would have been obligated.

(06-02-2015 03:57 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Ole Evan really wanted his 15 minutes. He wanted so badly to bask in people telling him how brave he is.

Yep another entitled gay guy wanting to make it all about me.

Parents had no idea this is gay? Riiiiiiiighhhhhhht,

(06-02-2015 03:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 03:35 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:Parents of Evan Curry are outraged after their teenage son is outed by his high school principal just before graduation.

The parents say their son wasn't only forced out of the closet - he was silenced when he planned to come out to his family and friends during his valedictorian speech.

The principal at Twin Peaks Charter School called Alise Curry and Don Young to tell them their son, the valedictorian, would not be allowed to give the speech at graduation. The principal also informed them their Evan was gay.

"I think it goes without saying we're unconditionally supportive of our child," Alise Curry said in a small news conference.

After being outed by his principal before he had a chance to tell his parents and the rest of the world, Evan was too embarrassed to stand in front of a handful of cameras to share his story. So instead, his parents did.

"So, first of all, Mr. Bachmann outed Evan to us. Which was not the way Evan wanted it to happen," Alise Curry said.

Bachmann who called Evan's dad to tell him he wasn't going to allow his son's speech, and it was also Bachmann who told Evan's parents their son is gay.

Both of them had no clue.

"The act of outing someone is dangerous and irresponsible," said Mardi Moore, the executive director of Out Boulder. "We're lucky in this case that Evan is in such good hands."

The student with a 4.5 grade point average with a scholarship waiting for him at Rutgers University had been silenced by an administration who didn't feel his message was appropriate.

"There was just silence. There was no acknowledgment of Evan's accomplishments. And as a parent that was the most hurtful thing for me," Alise Curry said. "I would appreciate a sincere apology. I'm not sure we can get one at this point."

The school board released a statement in response, which in part says "the valedictorian failed to follow the guidelines established by the school...and included references to personal matters of a sexual nature - topics not appropriate for a speech at a graduation ceremony."

http://www.cbs46.com/story/29210911/co-h...to-parents

I'm torn a bit here. Probably not the right decision outing the kid, but certainly the right decision to not let him speak. I guess the principle really didn't have a choice though. How else would you explain that the speech won't fly?

Why do you hate the 1st amendment?

Love the first amendment. If he wanted to thank God & Jesus, that would be perfectly fine.

A graduation ceremony is an inappropriate place to discuss sex. Just like it is an inappropriate place for a hetero to discuss all of the female classmates who he got to "know".

(06-02-2015 03:57 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Ole Evan really wanted his 15 minutes. He wanted so badly to bask in people telling him how brave he is.

Well given how hateful and discriminatory the school board is, it looks like it was a brave step.

(06-02-2015 03:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 03:35 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:Parents of Evan Curry are outraged after their teenage son is outed by his high school principal just before graduation.

The parents say their son wasn't only forced out of the closet - he was silenced when he planned to come out to his family and friends during his valedictorian speech.

The principal at Twin Peaks Charter School called Alise Curry and Don Young to tell them their son, the valedictorian, would not be allowed to give the speech at graduation. The principal also informed them their Evan was gay.

"I think it goes without saying we're unconditionally supportive of our child," Alise Curry said in a small news conference.

After being outed by his principal before he had a chance to tell his parents and the rest of the world, Evan was too embarrassed to stand in front of a handful of cameras to share his story. So instead, his parents did.

"So, first of all, Mr. Bachmann outed Evan to us. Which was not the way Evan wanted it to happen," Alise Curry said.

Bachmann who called Evan's dad to tell him he wasn't going to allow his son's speech, and it was also Bachmann who told Evan's parents their son is gay.

Both of them had no clue.

"The act of outing someone is dangerous and irresponsible," said Mardi Moore, the executive director of Out Boulder. "We're lucky in this case that Evan is in such good hands."

The student with a 4.5 grade point average with a scholarship waiting for him at Rutgers University had been silenced by an administration who didn't feel his message was appropriate.

"There was just silence. There was no acknowledgment of Evan's accomplishments. And as a parent that was the most hurtful thing for me," Alise Curry said. "I would appreciate a sincere apology. I'm not sure we can get one at this point."

The school board released a statement in response, which in part says "the valedictorian failed to follow the guidelines established by the school...and included references to personal matters of a sexual nature - topics not appropriate for a speech at a graduation ceremony."

http://www.cbs46.com/story/29210911/co-h...to-parents

I'm torn a bit here. Probably not the right decision outing the kid, but certainly the right decision to not let him speak. I guess the principle really didn't have a choice though. How else would you explain that the speech won't fly?

Why do you hate the 1st amendment?

You don't talk about your sex life in your graduation speech. This should be common sense. The principal was right to block the speech.

(06-02-2015 04:39 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Parents had no idea this is gay? Riiiiiiiighhhhhhht,

LOL!

Every one of those pics screams "sugar in his gas tank"

(06-02-2015 03:57 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Ole Evan really wanted his 15 minutes. He wanted so badly to bask in people telling him how brave he is.

This.

The Principal made the right call. The Valedictorian speech was not the proper venue for declaring his homosexuality. Especially since even his parents did not know.

(06-02-2015 03:57 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Ole Evan really wanted his 15 minutes. He wanted so badly to bask in people telling him how brave he is.

He could have been brave at any time during his HS years. Instead...He decides to grandstand and make everyones HS graduation about Evan. Wow.

The hero here is the Principal. Thank goodness he had the common sense to not allow this self absorbed little prick ruin the experience for everyone else.

(06-02-2015 04:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 03:57 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Ole Evan really wanted his 15 minutes. He wanted so badly to bask in people telling him how brave he is.

Well given how hateful and discriminatory the school board is, it looks like it was a brave step.

Evidently timing is not Evans strong suit. Let's hope it improves with age.

I'd rather a valedictorian speech be about him coming out than about the asinine sh*t every single one I've ever heard has been about. At least it'd be one that got the audience to respond in some way.

Weird that so many people care so much about what the kid was going to say, he's speaking to high school graduates, let's not act like he's talking explicitly about gay sex to impressionable elementary schoolers.

First amendment rights do not exist in schools.