TL;DR

I remember when UCF was being looked at for the Big East and Calhoun stated we weren't 'sexy' enough for them.

Love this pie to the face.

(06-02-2015 10:38 AM)chrisiskingx Wrote:  TL;DR

I remember when UCF was being looked at for the Big East and Calhoun stated we weren't 'sexy' enough for them.

Love this pie to the face.

I don't really know that it is a pie to the face. It isn't that UCF has gotten that much more "sexy" in the eyes of the UConn administration as much as UConn has no more natural rivals due to conference realignment not working out for them. UCF is a fine pick when looking at available AAC schools. UCF now has proven worth. They beat the Big 12 champ in the Fiesta Bowl two seasons ago. That was impressive. Like everything else, though, that was two years ago and a new season is starting this year. No school is superior to any other school until the final conference standings come out at the end of a year. That is why they play the game.

Even with UCF being better in football at the moment (the money sport), I would argue that UConn's overall athletic department still makes UConn a sexier name, though (which is why I say that it isn't a total pie to the face). Calhoun's statement wasn't totally out of line at that time (especially when viewed through his basketball centric viewpoint). However, UCF football has proven Calhoun wrong now as to their worth to this conference. Calhoun didn't have a crystal ball to see the future. UCF is a worthy conference mate and I believe that UConn, Cincy, UCF, and Memphis will all find a P5 home in the long run.

(06-01-2015 11:26 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Isn't Cincinnati-Memphis a rivalry of sorts? Including basketball affiliations, they've shared, what, four conferences together: AAC, C-USA, Great Midwest, and Metro.

I'm curious to hear from Florida residents about the USF-UCF rivalry. When did it first become an idea (before, during, or after the four game series in the mid-atlantic 2000's)? Where do you see the rivalry going now that you're in the same conference?

no...not really and i don't think either fan base really cares either

(06-02-2015 11:24 AM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 10:38 AM)chrisiskingx Wrote:  TL;DR

I remember when UCF was being looked at for the Big East and Calhoun stated we weren't 'sexy' enough for them.

Love this pie to the face.

I don't really know that it is a pie to the face. It isn't that UCF has gotten that much more "sexy" in the eyes of the UConn administration as much as UConn has no more natural rivals due to conference realignment not working out for them. UCF is a fine pick when looking at available AAC schools. UCF now has proven worth. They beat the Big 12 champ in the Fiesta Bowl two seasons ago. That was impressive. Like everything else, though, that was two years ago and a new season is starting this year. No school is superior to any other school until the final conference standings come out at the end of a year. That is why they play the game.

Even with UCF being better in football at the moment (the money sport), I would argue that UConn's overall athletic department still makes UConn a sexier name, though (which is why I say that it isn't a total pie to the face). Calhoun's statement wasn't totally out of line at that time (especially when viewed through his basketball centric viewpoint). However, UCF football has proven Calhoun wrong now as to their worth to this conference. Calhoun didn't have a crystal ball to see the future. UCF is a worthy conference mate and I believe that UConn, Cincy, UCF, and Memphis will all find a P5 home in the long run.

I thought it was BC that didn't like a UCF invite, particularly when the Big East was considering a football/hoops split for the 2005 season. Not positive about that, and it's been a long time since I read the minutes from those meetings.

Then, the conference stayed together and BC got the ACC invite, and the Big East invited USF instead of UCF.

(06-02-2015 10:38 AM)chrisiskingx Wrote:  TL;DR

I remember when UCF was being looked at for the Big East and Calhoun stated we weren't 'sexy' enough for them.

Love this pie to the face.

I think that comment was generally made about any expansion member years ago. We would say the same thing about teams wanting to join the aac today outside of BYU.

(06-02-2015 10:25 AM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 10:21 AM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 05:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 11:53 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 07:08 PM)FonzKnight Wrote:  The funny thing is UCF was completely shocked by the tweet. No one in our program had any involvement in creating a trophy or a "rivalry" game with UCONN.

If they did they would have gotten our logo right and probably added our win.

It is incredibly tacky for UConn to omit your 2013 win, and to make a rivalry trophy without UCF involvement.

The 2013 win was omitted because the trophy was created after the 2014 season. Why should Diaco have to "backdate" the thing to a time that occurred before he created this idiotic rivalry in his head?

The only rival that was ever natural for UConn was Rutgers. That one was getting good. That is just one additional reason why I hope that UConn ends up in the B1G.

Exactly, it was created after the season, so it already is backdated. Either included both of the two previous years as conference partners or take the UConn victory off and start from the creation of the trophy.

UCF, just win the next game and put both your wins on the trophy.

(06-02-2015 11:39 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 10:38 AM)chrisiskingx Wrote:  TL;DR

I remember when UCF was being looked at for the Big East and Calhoun stated we weren't 'sexy' enough for them.

Love this pie to the face.

I think that comment was generally made about any expansion member years ago. We would say the same thing about teams wanting to join the aac today outside of BYU.

Indeed. And UCF has come light years since then. Of any school in the AAC, I still think that UCF is the one with the most athletic upside looking toward the future. They have shown a huge commitment to athletics and academics and are emerging as a major player on the national stage.

(06-02-2015 11:42 AM)PirateJim Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 10:25 AM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 10:21 AM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 05:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 11:53 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  If they did they would have gotten our logo right and probably added our win.

It is incredibly tacky for UConn to omit your 2013 win, and to make a rivalry trophy without UCF involvement.

The 2013 win was omitted because the trophy was created after the 2014 season. Why should Diaco have to "backdate" the thing to a time that occurred before he created this idiotic rivalry in his head?

The only rival that was ever natural for UConn was Rutgers. That one was getting good. That is just one additional reason why I hope that UConn ends up in the B1G.

Exactly, it was created after the season, so it already is backdated. Either included both of the two previous years as conference partners or take the UConn victory off and start from the creation of the trophy.

UCF, just win the next game and put both your wins on the trophy.

Does this trophy reside at UConn or is the pic from Bob Diaco's man cave? hahahaha

(06-02-2015 11:36 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 11:26 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Isn't Cincinnati-Memphis a rivalry of sorts? Including basketball affiliations, they've shared, what, four conferences together: AAC, C-USA, Great Midwest, and Metro.

I'm curious to hear from Florida residents about the USF-UCF rivalry. When did it first become an idea (before, during, or after the four game series in the mid-atlantic 2000's)? Where do you see the rivalry going now that you're in the same conference?

no...not really and i don't think either fan base really cares either

I think that's right --- in fact, it looks like the only real 'fan rivalry' in this conference is UCF - USF.

It they want to make rivalry trophies then I can see one for:
1. Memphis and Cinci.... theres enough history in different sports to support this and they dont really like each other.
2. Houston and Tulsa... again, enough history.
3. Houston and SMU
4. USF and UCF - this one just begs of a trophy. Plenty of hate. The history isnt as long but its already way intense.

If UCF wins this year, will the trophy go in a closet at UCONN or at UCF?

This was my basic idea for the USF/UCF War on I4 rivalry trophy. I included both mascots, I4, the road sign and then on the base of the trophy hwy signs pointing east and west.
It definitely needs a professionals tweaking but I think it would be a good start.


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This could be an interesting rivalry if:
- UCF actually agrees to also acknowledge it
- A real name is created for the rivalry
- A real trophy is created for it (and the trophy also includes UCF's win, since if both sides agree to it, then the trophy should reflect all wins of both sides)

It actually probably would develop for both sides as UConn gets back to being a respectable team on the field. However, if it is going to be a manufactured rivalry and not an organic one, it needs to have a slick name and a cool trophy

(06-02-2015 11:58 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  [img][/img]

Works well with the UConn trophy. Side by side in UCF's trophy case.

(06-02-2015 12:58 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 11:26 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Isn't Cincinnati-Memphis a rivalry of sorts? Including basketball affiliations, they've shared, what, four conferences together: AAC, C-USA, Great Midwest, and Metro.

...and commenting on the Cincinnati-Memphis rivalry comment; I don't see a single program in this conference that I'd consider a rival. I absolutely like the conference and the universities that make up the conference, however there isn't one single program that I can say gets me super/edge of my seat excited. Rivalries develop naturally, they aren't manufactured in someone's head and commanded "to be".

I believe Cincy and Memphis were also together in the Missouri Valley Conference.

I agree with you as far as it not being much of a rivalry. In a way you would think it would be more than it is given the 5 different conferences we've shared--actually that sounds like some sort of record, lol.

I do think though that for Memphis fans, playing a bball game against Cincy has more interest than playing, say, against Temple, most likely because Memphis-Cincy had some epic battles years ago in games that actually meant something in terms of seeding, tourney invites, etc, and watching the Huggins-Calipari show was always entertaining.

(06-02-2015 11:55 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  If UCF wins this year, will the trophy go in a closet at UCONN or at UCF?

Catapult it into Lake Claire using the ATO Trebuchet

(06-02-2015 07:54 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  Would be funny, when we beat UConn this year, and we take the trophy, if GOL threw it on the field and let Pegasus stomp it to pieces. LOL. Diaco is just forcing things too hard.

I think gol just needs to add our win while we have it.

(06-02-2015 08:46 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm far more excited about watching the Cincinnati/UCF showdown and those two schools have never even played each other.

I have a feeling we may not put up as much of a fight this year.

(06-02-2015 04:42 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 12:58 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 11:26 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Isn't Cincinnati-Memphis a rivalry of sorts? Including basketball affiliations, they've shared, what, four conferences together: AAC, C-USA, Great Midwest, and Metro.

...and commenting on the Cincinnati-Memphis rivalry comment; I don't see a single program in this conference that I'd consider a rival. I absolutely like the conference and the universities that make up the conference, however there isn't one single program that I can say gets me super/edge of my seat excited. Rivalries develop naturally, they aren't manufactured in someone's head and commanded "to be".

I believe Cincy and Memphis were also together in the Missouri Valley Conference.

I agree with you as far as it not being much of a rivalry. In a way you would think it would be more than it is given the 5 different conferences we've shared--actually that sounds like some sort of record, lol.

I do think though that for Memphis fans, playing a bball game against Cincy has more interest than playing, say, against Temple, most likely because Memphis-Cincy had some epic battles years ago in games that actually meant something in terms of seeding, tourney invites, etc, and watching the Huggins-Calipari show was always entertaining.u

Agreed, it should stir more vibes in the soul than it does. The Finch/Huggins battles were the BB games that come to my mind first. 4th and 27 is the Bearcat moment that really stand out to me; but through it all, I can't get as worked up about the Bearcats as I have the Cards in the past. I think that's part of the problem, Tigers/Bearcats both let the Cards get in their heads more than they should. I just don't see a rivalry in this conference coming close to Louisville. But, that's just my opinion and I won't argue with anyone who feels differently.

If we're giving out trophies for every good storyline, ECU and Navy should definitely get one...midshipmen and piratrees and all