The only conference to come close to the ACC in total dollars was the Big Ten, which of course sent two teams to the Final Four (Michigan State and Wisconsin). And even after you factor in the number of teams in each conference, the per-school take by the ACC exceeds every other conference.


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It's also spread out over 6 years so the impact isn't that great.

Also this year just makes up for last year, where the conference only got 12 units- 9 fewer than this year.

Big Ten over 2 years 1 unit ahead of the ACC.

It's so cute the acc fanboys trying to pimp out their conference like it's something special. So so cute.

(05-31-2015 12:09 PM)stever20 Wrote:  It's also spread out over 6 years so the impact isn't that great.

Also this year just makes up for last year, where the conference only got 12 units- 9 fewer than this year.

Big Ten over 2 years 1 unit ahead of the ACC.

It's so cute the acc fanboys trying to pimp out their conference like it's something special. So so cute.

Just stating fact....

So I take it you do not think the ACC will make $40 Million in 2016, $45 Millions in 2017, $50 Million in 2018....on and on... I guess you think the Great West is all of sudden going to leap frog the ACC in basketball?

ACC will get paid for 79 units next year(based on the 2010-15 tournaments)
Big Ten on the other hand will get paid for 99 units....
Big 12 76 units
SEC 64 units
P12 53 units
(fwiw AAC will get 71 units this year)

The key will be for the ACC to have tournaments like this year and not like the past few years, where the most units they earned is 14(as opposed to this year getting 21).

(05-31-2015 12:09 PM)stever20 Wrote:  It's also spread out over 6 years so the impact isn't that great.

Also this year just makes up for last year, where the conference only got 12 units- 9 fewer than this year.

Big Ten over 2 years 1 unit ahead of the ACC.

It's so cute the acc fanboys trying to pimp out their conference like it's something special. So so cute.

(05-31-2015 12:12 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:09 PM)stever20 Wrote:  It's also spread out over 6 years so the impact isn't that great.

Also this year just makes up for last year, where the conference only got 12 units- 9 fewer than this year.

Big Ten over 2 years 1 unit ahead of the ACC.

It's so cute the acc fanboys trying to pimp out their conference like it's something special. So so cute.

Just stating fact....

So I take it you do not think the ACC will make $40 Million in 2016, $45 Millions in 2017, $50 Million in 2018....on and on... I guess you think the Great West is all of sudden going to leap frog the ACC in basketball?

They had 1 great tournament. It's got to be more than just 1. Next year- the ACC gets paid for 79 units. That's if its 260k going to get the ACC roughly 20.5 million dollars. SEC will get paid 16.6 million dollars.

(05-31-2015 12:17 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The key will be for the ACC to have tournaments like this year and not like the past few years, where the most units they earned is 14(as opposed to this year getting 21).

Hmm I find it funny that you state this.... as an ACC Fan I take this for granted.... Especially after the last round of expansion....so in 2020.... 2015-2020 again I take as ACC will dominate....You are obviously not an ACC fan....so what is your take after the last round of expansion....The Great West leap frogs the ACC?

(05-31-2015 12:22 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:17 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The key will be for the ACC to have tournaments like this year and not like the past few years, where the most units they earned is 14(as opposed to this year getting 21).

Hmm I find it funny that you state this.... as an ACC Fan I take this as it will happen.... Especially after the last round of expansion....so in 2020.... 2015-2020 again I take as ACC will dominate....

you are obviously not an ACC fan....so what is your take after the last round of expansion....The Great West leap frogs the ACC?

Well considering that the ACC has Duke, Syracuse, UNC, and Louisville with great coaches who will be gone very soon, the UNC academic situation- It's absolutely no lock at all(and the Syracuse situation as well).

I don't think you realize how hard it is to get 20 units even. That's getting 8 teams in for instance, and getting 12 wins in the tournament(before the title game).

(05-31-2015 12:12 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:09 PM)stever20 Wrote:  It's also spread out over 6 years so the impact isn't that great.

Also this year just makes up for last year, where the conference only got 12 units- 9 fewer than this year.

Big Ten over 2 years 1 unit ahead of the ACC.

It's so cute the acc fanboys trying to pimp out their conference like it's something special. So so cute.

Just stating fact....

So I take it you do not think the ACC will make $40 Million in 2016, $45 Millions in 2017, $50 Million in 2018....on and on... I guess you think the Great West is all of sudden going to leap frog the ACC in basketball?

The most units every accumulated in a single season is 24 held by the Big East. So it is highly unlikely the leap to $40 million, then $45 million, and then $50 million in a single year is going to happen.

Now, what might happen is that over the next 4 years, the ACC averages 20 units a year something the Big East did between 2009-2013. But that is about the best anyone should expect. Will that put the league some distance between every other conference not named the Big Ten? Yes, but it is still not enough to make up the gap the ACC will experience with the Greater 2. Something that will be true of the B12 and PAC as well. They aren't going to close the gap either.

Best the ACC can hope for is that with an ACCN and the NCAA units, in 5 years time the league is solidly in third place in terms of conference revenue, remains first in bb (but the B1G is a threat there overall), and at least third in football (this could prove the hardest to accomplish).

Cheers,
Neil

(05-31-2015 12:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:22 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:17 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The key will be for the ACC to have tournaments like this year and not like the past few years, where the most units they earned is 14(as opposed to this year getting 21).

Hmm I find it funny that you state this.... as an ACC Fan I take this as it will happen.... Especially after the last round of expansion....so in 2020.... 2015-2020 again I take as ACC will dominate....

you are obviously not an ACC fan....so what is your take after the last round of expansion....The Great West leap frogs the ACC?

Well considering that the ACC has Duke, Syracuse, UNC, and Louisville with great coaches who will be gone very soon, the UNC academic situation- It's absolutely no lock at all(and the Syracuse situation as well).

I don't think you realize how hard it is to get 20 units even. That's getting 8 teams in for instance, and getting 12 wins in the tournament(before the title game).

So you are saying that when schools have coaches who retire/step down/fired....Those schools will have a hard time finding replacements and thus may not get into the tourney....

I do agree that the UNC/CUSE side show will be interesting to watch......

I also do realize how hard it is and that is why I created this thread in the first place.... However I think the ACC is a conf that is a threat to get to 20+ units every year.

(05-31-2015 12:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:22 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:17 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The key will be for the ACC to have tournaments like this year and not like the past few years, where the most units they earned is 14(as opposed to this year getting 21).

Hmm I find it funny that you state this.... as an ACC Fan I take this as it will happen.... Especially after the last round of expansion....so in 2020.... 2015-2020 again I take as ACC will dominate....

you are obviously not an ACC fan....so what is your take after the last round of expansion....The Great West leap frogs the ACC?

Well considering that the ACC has Duke, Syracuse, UNC, and Louisville with great coaches who will be gone very soon, the UNC academic situation- It's absolutely no lock at all(and the Syracuse situation as well).

I don't think you realize how hard it is to get 20 units even. That's getting 8 teams in for instance, and getting 12 wins in the tournament(before the title game).

I'll be shocked if the ACC does not average 8 teams in the field over the next 4 years. And I see the B1G averaging at least 7 teams in the field in that time frame as well. Getting the 12 wins is the hard part.

Cheers,
Neil

(05-31-2015 12:41 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:22 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:17 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The key will be for the ACC to have tournaments like this year and not like the past few years, where the most units they earned is 14(as opposed to this year getting 21).

Hmm I find it funny that you state this.... as an ACC Fan I take this as it will happen.... Especially after the last round of expansion....so in 2020.... 2015-2020 again I take as ACC will dominate....

you are obviously not an ACC fan....so what is your take after the last round of expansion....The Great West leap frogs the ACC?

Well considering that the ACC has Duke, Syracuse, UNC, and Louisville with great coaches who will be gone very soon, the UNC academic situation- It's absolutely no lock at all(and the Syracuse situation as well).

I don't think you realize how hard it is to get 20 units even. That's getting 8 teams in for instance, and getting 12 wins in the tournament(before the title game).

So you are saying that when schools have coaches who retire/step down/fired....Those schools will have a hard time finding replacements and thus may not get into the tourney....

I do agree that the UNC/CUSE side show will be interesting to watch......

I also do realize how hard it is and why created this thread in the first place.... However I think the ACC is a conf that is a threat to get to 20 units every year.

Not that they'll miss the tourney- but to think they'll continue going deep in the tourney- no. I think they'll take a step back...

Also- if the ACC averages 20 units the next 4 years- 2016-19. In 2020, the ACC would get 113 units. That's Not even 30 million.

Why attack the original poster? Can someone have success without being attacked?

The ACC got 6 teams in and went 17-5

The rpi hawks big 12 got 7 teams in and went 5-7

B1G got 7 teams and went 12-7

SeC 5 teams and went 6-5 riding Kentucky's coat tail

PaC12 4 teams in. 8-4

Big east 6 teams in 5-6

That's clear as day and not up for debate.

You want to bring up past units as a knock on the ACC but fail to acknowledge Louisville and Syracuse both left behind a large amount of units behind to the AAC/Big East along with Pitt and Notre Dame. Going forward, all of these teams are ACC teams. those teams along with the already strong traditional ACC teams are here to stay. The success will continue. Is your saving grace that they are only as good as their Hall of Fame coaches and will fall off once they retire? Keep dreaming. Those are brands and they will just get the next great coach.


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(05-31-2015 12:44 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:41 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:22 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:17 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The key will be for the ACC to have tournaments like this year and not like the past few years, where the most units they earned is 14(as opposed to this year getting 21).

Hmm I find it funny that you state this.... as an ACC Fan I take this as it will happen.... Especially after the last round of expansion....so in 2020.... 2015-2020 again I take as ACC will dominate....

you are obviously not an ACC fan....so what is your take after the last round of expansion....The Great West leap frogs the ACC?

Well considering that the ACC has Duke, Syracuse, UNC, and Louisville with great coaches who will be gone very soon, the UNC academic situation- It's absolutely no lock at all(and the Syracuse situation as well).

I don't think you realize how hard it is to get 20 units even. That's getting 8 teams in for instance, and getting 12 wins in the tournament(before the title game).

So you are saying that when schools have coaches who retire/step down/fired....Those schools will have a hard time finding replacements and thus may not get into the tourney....

I do agree that the UNC/CUSE side show will be interesting to watch......

I also do realize how hard it is and why created this thread in the first place.... However I think the ACC is a conf that is a threat to get to 20 units every year.

Not that they'll miss the tourney- but to think they'll continue going deep in the tourney- no. I think they'll take a step back...

Also- if the ACC averages 20 units the next 4 years- 2016-19. In 2020, the ACC would get 113 units. That's Not even 30 million.

At an average increase of 2.1% (per Steve Forbes), a single unit will be worth around $288,830 in 2020. So yes, 113 units times that figure is $32.6 M.

Though let's see if the ACC even gets there.

Cheers,
Neil

THE ACC HATE is real

(05-31-2015 12:52 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote:  Why attack the original poster? Can someone have success without being attacked?

The ACC got 6 teams in and went 17-5

The rpi hawks big 12 got 7 teams in and went 5-7

B1G got 7 teams and went 12-7

SeC 5 teams and went 6-5 riding Kentucky's coat tail

PaC12 4 teams in. 8-4

Big east 6 teams in 5-6

That's clear as day and not up for debate.

You want to bring up past units as a knock on the ACC but fail to acknowledge Louisville and Syracuse both left behind a large amount of units behind to the AAC/Big East along with Pitt and Notre Dame. Going forward, all of these teams are ACC teams. those teams along with the already strong traditional ACC teams are here to stay. The success will continue. Is your saving grace that they are only as good as their Hall of Fame coaches and will fall off once they retire? Keep dreaming. Those are brands and they will just get the next great coach.


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It's extremely misleading. You take these 2 years of the ACC and use that for it and it's 99 units average. Until the ACC can prove that this year is the rule instead of the exception, we just don't know.

And yes, it is extremely hard replacing legends. Not to mention that 2 of the 4 have some questions there- Syracuse and UNC. To act like the program won't suffer anything is rather naïve. It'd be more shocking if it doesn't suffer.

The ACC fanboyness is very real. And love how all these threads come out this weekend after the SEC's money came out- trying to make the ACC fans feel better about themselves.

(05-31-2015 12:57 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  THE ACC HATE is real

It's a minority, but it is a vocal minority. As a Syracuse fan I've been dealing with this since I came on these boards back in 2004. Up until 2013, the vitriol was mostly directed at the Big East with a little toward the ACC (mostly from Big East and ECU posters). With the Big East no longer a football playing conference, the attention has turned toward the ACC with the B12 the secondary target.

It's part of being on these boards.

Cheers,
Neil

(05-31-2015 01:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:52 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote:  Why attack the original poster? Can someone have success without being attacked?

The ACC got 6 teams in and went 17-5

The rpi hawks big 12 got 7 teams in and went 5-7

B1G got 7 teams and went 12-7

SeC 5 teams and went 6-5 riding Kentucky's coat tail

PaC12 4 teams in. 8-4

Big east 6 teams in 5-6

That's clear as day and not up for debate.

You want to bring up past units as a knock on the ACC but fail to acknowledge Louisville and Syracuse both left behind a large amount of units behind to the AAC/Big East along with Pitt and Notre Dame. Going forward, all of these teams are ACC teams. those teams along with the already strong traditional ACC teams are here to stay. The success will continue. Is your saving grace that they are only as good as their Hall of Fame coaches and will fall off once they retire? Keep dreaming. Those are brands and they will just get the next great coach.


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It's extremely misleading. You take these 2 years of the ACC and use that for it and it's 99 units average. Until the ACC can prove that this year is the rule instead of the exception, we just don't know.

And yes, it is extremely hard replacing legends. Not to mention that 2 of the 4 have some questions there- Syracuse and UNC. To act like the program won't suffer anything is rather naïve. It'd be more shocking if it doesn't suffer.

SO how many years does the ACC have to do well before you call it a trend...3, 4, 5?

(05-31-2015 01:07 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 01:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 12:52 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote:  Why attack the original poster? Can someone have success without being attacked?

The ACC got 6 teams in and went 17-5

The rpi hawks big 12 got 7 teams in and went 5-7

B1G got 7 teams and went 12-7

SeC 5 teams and went 6-5 riding Kentucky's coat tail

PaC12 4 teams in. 8-4

Big east 6 teams in 5-6

That's clear as day and not up for debate.

You want to bring up past units as a knock on the ACC but fail to acknowledge Louisville and Syracuse both left behind a large amount of units behind to the AAC/Big East along with Pitt and Notre Dame. Going forward, all of these teams are ACC teams. those teams along with the already strong traditional ACC teams are here to stay. The success will continue. Is your saving grace that they are only as good as their Hall of Fame coaches and will fall off once they retire? Keep dreaming. Those are brands and they will just get the next great coach.


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It's extremely misleading. You take these 2 years of the ACC and use that for it and it's 99 units average. Until the ACC can prove that this year is the rule instead of the exception, we just don't know.

And yes, it is extremely hard replacing legends. Not to mention that 2 of the 4 have some questions there- Syracuse and UNC. To act like the program won't suffer anything is rather naïve. It'd be more shocking if it doesn't suffer.

SO how many years does the ACC have to do well before you call it a trend...3, 4, 5?

Sure as hell more than 1. And also, lets see what happens when everyone retires.