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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 08:56 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 05:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
hey look...another sport Rutgers can be bad in!
Isn't Rutgers going to announce a solution to the RAC in June. Having a multipurpose arena with ice making capabilities like Ohio St, Wisconsin, and Nebraska has to be a consideration.
Could the RAC become the hockey arena ?
Yost was home to Michigan basketball at one time.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 09:03 PM)MJG Wrote: (05-31-2015 08:56 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 05:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
hey look...another sport Rutgers can be bad in!
Isn't Rutgers going to announce a solution to the RAC in June. Having a multipurpose arena with ice making capabilities like Ohio St, Wisconsin, and Nebraska has to be a consideration.
Could the RAC become the hockey arena ?
Yost was home to Michigan basketball at one time.
Rutgers is 36 million underfunded from revenue generated.
ICE hockey in NJ is in the NHL in newark.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 09:03 PM)MJG Wrote: (05-31-2015 08:56 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 05:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
hey look...another sport Rutgers can be bad in!
Isn't Rutgers going to announce a solution to the RAC in June. Having a multipurpose arena with ice making capabilities like Ohio St, Wisconsin, and Nebraska has to be a consideration.
Could the RAC become the hockey arena ?
Yost was home to Michigan basketball at one time.
Cole Field House at Maryland has a rink footprint, and Cole is sitting empty last I read.
No idea about the RAC,
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 08:44 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 06:52 PM)gosports1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 05:48 PM)e-parade Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
Unless it leads in to an all sports invite, why would UCONN leave Hockey East?
good point. why would the B1G want UConn for hockey only? Doesnt make sense for either of them IMO
The B1G wants a hockey presence in NYC now. They are partipating in a early season hockey showcase at Barclay's with Penn St. Other teams will rotate, but UConn would be best. Plus a possibility of the conference tournament there at the Devils or Islanders rink.
For UConn, why wouldn't their leadership jump at a B1G affiliate spot? It would pay off much more than Hockey East and get their foot in the door for P5 membership.
Hockey East is a premier hockey conference and is literally in the backyard for UCONN. It's a bus-ride conference outside of Notre Dame. Like I said, unless there's a full membership coming in the wings for it, there's no reason for them to go to the B1G over Hockey East. In terms of exposure, Hockey East already has deals with NESN for regional exposure, and NBCSN and Fox for national exposure. I'm not sure what the difference in payoff is that you're expecting there between the two.
Then there's competition against national (hockey) brands like BC and BU, not to mention being in a conference with Notre Dame (also, the other UMass, UNH, and Maine are all solid hockey programs...not to mention Providence being the defending national champ).
What is it about the B1G, other than full conference membership, that would make the Huskies jump? From your last post, it seems like it would be more advantageous for the B1G than for UCONN (to get into the NE recruiting market).
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 09:07 PM)Rich52c Wrote: (05-31-2015 09:03 PM)MJG Wrote: (05-31-2015 08:56 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 05:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
hey look...another sport Rutgers can be bad in!
Isn't Rutgers going to announce a solution to the RAC in June. Having a multipurpose arena with ice making capabilities like Ohio St, Wisconsin, and Nebraska has to be a consideration.
Could the RAC become the hockey arena ?
Yost was home to Michigan basketball at one time.
Rutgers is 36 million underfunded from revenue generated.
ICE hockey in NJ is in the NHL in newark.
Penn State was in the black from the word go. Hockey schools get more revenue from the B1G Network. Part of Rutgers alumni push for hockey is too see if they can raise endowed scholarships, practically guaranteeing hock would be self funding.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 09:15 PM)e-parade Wrote: (05-31-2015 08:44 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 06:52 PM)gosports1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 05:48 PM)e-parade Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
Unless it leads in to an all sports invite, why would UCONN leave Hockey East?
good point. why would the B1G want UConn for hockey only? Doesnt make sense for either of them IMO
The B1G wants a hockey presence in NYC now. They are partipating in a early season hockey showcase at Barclay's with Penn St. Other teams will rotate, but UConn would be best. Plus a possibility of the conference tournament there at the Devils or Islanders rink.
For UConn, why wouldn't their leadership jump at a B1G affiliate spot? It would pay off much more than Hockey East and get their foot in the door for P5 membership.
Hockey East is a premier hockey conference and is literally in the backyard for UCONN. It's a bus-ride conference outside of Notre Dame. Like I said, unless there's a full membership coming in the wings for it, there's no reason for them to go to the B1G over Hockey East. In terms of exposure, Hockey East already has deals with NESN for regional exposure, and NBCSN and Fox for national exposure. I'm not sure what the difference in payoff is that you're expecting there between the two.
Then there's competition against national (hockey) brands like BC and BU, not to mention being in a conference with Notre Dame (also, the other UMass, UNH, and Maine are all solid hockey programs...not to mention Providence being the defending national champ).
What is it about the B1G, other than full conference membership, that would make the Huskies jump? From your last post, it seems like it would be more advantageous for the B1G than for UCONN (to get into the NE recruiting market).
Last I heard, the Big Ten Network pays $1 mill plus extra if a school had hockey. HE pays peanuts unless you're Notre Dame. Minnesotas hockey revenue actually went down because Fox North paid a premium for their games.
If the Big Ten offers UConn to be part of their academic consortium for hockey affiliation, UConn would be signing on the dotted line right now.
(This post was last modified: 05-31-2015 09:26 PM by NoDak.)
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 09:14 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 09:03 PM)MJG Wrote: (05-31-2015 08:56 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 05:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
hey look...another sport Rutgers can be bad in!
Isn't Rutgers going to announce a solution to the RAC in June. Having a multipurpose arena with ice making capabilities like Ohio St, Wisconsin, and Nebraska has to be a consideration.
Could the RAC become the hockey arena ?
Yost was home to Michigan basketball at one time.
Cole Field House at Maryland has a rink footprint, and Cole is sitting empty last I read.
No idea about the RAC,
Maryland has other plans, not involving hockey, for the Cole Field House:
http://colefieldhouse.umd.edu/
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 09:14 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 09:03 PM)MJG Wrote: (05-31-2015 08:56 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 05:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
hey look...another sport Rutgers can be bad in!
Isn't Rutgers going to announce a solution to the RAC in June. Having a multipurpose arena with ice making capabilities like Ohio St, Wisconsin, and Nebraska has to be a consideration.
Could the RAC become the hockey arena ?
Yost was home to Michigan basketball at one time.
Cole Field House at Maryland has a rink footprint, and Cole is sitting empty last I read.
No idea about the RAC,
No. The RAC has a basketball floor and nothing else. It wasn't built as a multi purpose facility. We are currently exploring how the RAC can be replaced. I fear that in the rush to get something/ANYTHING built, we will simply build a bigger RAC type facility. I'd like to see use build an arena that can be used for multiple sports. Even if D1 hockey is little more than a dream, building an arena with a hockey footprint allows for many more uses and paying events.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 09:29 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote: (05-31-2015 09:14 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 09:03 PM)MJG Wrote: (05-31-2015 08:56 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 05:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: hey look...another sport Rutgers can be bad in!
Isn't Rutgers going to announce a solution to the RAC in June. Having a multipurpose arena with ice making capabilities like Ohio St, Wisconsin, and Nebraska has to be a consideration.
Could the RAC become the hockey arena ?
Yost was home to Michigan basketball at one time.
Cole Field House at Maryland has a rink footprint, and Cole is sitting empty last I read.
No idea about the RAC,
Maryland has other plans, not involving hockey, for the Cole Field House:
http://colefieldhouse.umd.edu/
Seems like wasting a good building. Indoor practice centers are relative cheap to construct. Ice arenas with actual seating are not.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 06:47 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote: (05-31-2015 05:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
hey look...another sport Rutgers can be bad in!
Exactly.
I'm not a "winning isn't everything; it's the only thing" kind of guy, but don't you have to win something sometime? Doesn't a cumulative .350 winning percentage across all sports get old?
You guys are funny. You'll need that sense of humor playing in the BigC-USA.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
Saw a twitter post where the following schools were aligning the hockey club teams:
Liberty (rink on campus expanding to over 3000 seats)
Delaware (2000 seat arena on campus)
West Chester St (several rink complexes in S Philly suburbs, not sure about arena)
Navy (2000 seat arena on campus)
Californa of PA (5000 seat arena in southern Pittsburgh metro)
Buffalo (several arenas in Buffalo)
Just seemed like a strange amalagamation of schools, when there are more proximate opponents. Buffalo, Navy, and Liberty have been rumored to DI hockey before. West Chester, California of PA, and De!aware seem a bit surprising, but for the Pennsylvania schools, DI hockey is the easiest and cheapest way for DI exposure. Could there schools are be planning a DI hockey move for both M/W?
Atlantic Hockey offers membership with low scholarship requirements, so what is there to lose on the men's side. The women side could take on Sacred Heart and have an autobid.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 12:39 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:22 PM)goofus Wrote: I never had the impression that Iowa was into hockey.
In general its just not a good spectator sport. its appeal is pretty narrow. It just seems like club status is a good level for hockey.
Iowa has good attendance for their USHL teams, which is the main feeder league for midwestern colleges. Most HS kids have to go to an amateur leagues like the USHL or NAHL to get a college scholarship (and often not finishing with their original high school). Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, Waterloo, Dubuque, and Sioux City all have USHL teams.
Iowa has amateur organizations sponsoring high school hockey, unlike Minnesota where High Schools sponsor teams. So for example, Des Moines has one HS team, not multiple teams.
Spent 4 years at grad school in Dubuque, rooting for the "Fighting Saints." (They had to drop the "Fighting" off the official name, but what the heck...) It was the main diversion in the winter months.
And hockey is a GREAT spectator sport. Much better in person than on TV, something that cannot be said of FB. (Though I still like going to the games whenever possible.)
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
If Rutgers cannot win in ice hockey, they can always try Sand Volleyball.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
Hockey has been a great spectator sport at Michigan State since I was there in the early 80's. I look forward to any and all comers to BIG Hockey.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2015/6/...et-knights
This Flyers site says that a Philly area college should go DI. Penn, Villanova, and Temple are mentioned. What about West Chester St? Temple wouldn't take hockey DI as they have to funnel money into football. Villanova has some of the same reasons. Penn might be open to it, as the used to sponsor it, and the other Ivies would want them in the ECAC.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
The original plans for the RAC included an aquatic center, and there was an option for a hockey rink. Both of those plans were scrapped in the final schematic.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(06-05-2015 01:05 AM)Jimmy Wrote: The original plans for the RAC included an aquatic center, and there was an option for a hockey rink. Both of those plans were scrapped in the final schematic.
The original building was also supposed to seat 10-12k. This is just another massive short coming that is part of Fred Gruninger's legacy at RU.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
Isn't there a hockey arena/ice rink in the Chimney Rock complex on Rt 22 in Bound Brook? I think we'd play there.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(06-05-2015 08:46 AM)rjglassett Wrote: Isn't there a hockey arena/ice rink in the Chimney Rock complex on Rt 22 in Bound Brook? I think we'd play there.
Google list the capacity of the Rock Ice rinks as 430 people per rink. Maybe that's OK for practice, but not for a Big Ten team.
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