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Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
Maybe after adding D1 hockey, Rutgers can work on adding D1 basketball.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
There has been a huge surge in teen hockey in NJ. I'd love to see D1 hockey at RU. I believe it would do well. As the article states, all we need is an arena and a boat load of money. Right now, we don't have either of the things. Considering our current financial status and the mounting pressure to get a basketball arena built, I'd put the time line for hockey at more like 7-10 years minimum.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
I never had the impression that Iowa was into hockey.
In general its just not a good spectator sport. its appeal is pretty narrow. It just seems like club status is a good level for hockey.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 12:17 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote: There has been a huge surge in teen hockey in NJ. I'd love to see D1 hockey at RU. I believe it would do well. As the article states, all we need is an arena and a boat load of money. Right now, we don't have either of the things. Considering our current financial status and the mounting pressure to get a basketball arena built, I'd put the time line for hockey at more like 7-10 years minimum.
I believe it was a $95 million check from Pegula that made Penn State hockey happen, so it'll probably take something like that to make hockey happen at Rutgers. If you need a basketball arena first then you could always just make a multipurpose facility like the new Nebraska-Omaha arena and kill two birds with one stone.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 12:22 PM)goofus Wrote: I never had the impression that Iowa was into hockey.
In general its just not a good spectator sport. its appeal is pretty narrow. It just seems like club status is a good level for hockey.
Iowa hosts five franchises in the USHL, which is the main feeder league for the NCAA.
Your comments on hockey support lead me to conclude that you are a big fan of golf.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 12:22 PM)goofus Wrote: I never had the impression that Iowa was into hockey.
In general its just not a good spectator sport. its appeal is pretty narrow. It just seems like club status is a good level for hockey.
Iowa has good attendance for their USHL teams, which is the main feeder league for midwestern colleges. Most HS kids have to go to an amateur leagues like the USHL or NAHL to get a college scholarship (and often not finishing with their original high school). Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, Waterloo, Dubuque, and Sioux City all have USHL teams.
Iowa has amateur organizations sponsoring high school hockey, unlike Minnesota where High Schools sponsor teams. So for example, Des Moines has one HS team, not multiple teams.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
oh ok, I see. I grew up in southern Iowa, near the Mizzoura border.
so let me modify my statement by saying I never had the impression that southen Iowa was into hockey, but I guess in northern Iowa, it sounds like hockey has some appeal.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 12:58 PM)goofus Wrote: oh ok, I see. I grew up in southern Iowa, near the Mizzoura border.
so let me modify my statement by saying I never had the impression that southen Iowa was into hockey, but I guess in northern Iowa, it sounds like hockey has some appeal.
Small towns in Iowa do not have hockey, no matter where. Hockey is an increasingly suburban phenomena, as outdoor rink hockey is increasingly rare even where winter is five months long.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
IU isn't replacing Assembly Hall, they are about to renovate it like Illinois/UM did for their old hoops arena's.
http://www.insidethehall.com/2015/04/07/...novations/
As for hockey, i wonder if there are enough youth hockey players to supply all these school's. I would think school's would look into soccer and lacrosse going big before hockey.
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Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
Most of the Big Ten has men's soccer already, and the Big Ten just started sponsoring men's lacrosse. Rutgers already fields a team.
If Rutgers, Iowa, Nebraska, etc. start coming to pass I imagine we'll see a Big Ten women's hockey conference as well, because most of the schools looking at hockey have few remaining options to complement men's ice hockey. The major investment for a hockey program is the facility, so adding a women's hockey team really wouldn't be much more expensive than adding other women's sports with a comparable number of scholarships.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
Unless it leads in to an all sports invite, why would UCONN leave Hockey East?
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 02:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:58 PM)goofus Wrote: oh ok, I see. I grew up in southern Iowa, near the Mizzoura border.
so let me modify my statement by saying I never had the impression that southen Iowa was into hockey, but I guess in northern Iowa, it sounds like hockey has some appeal.
Small towns in Iowa do not have hockey, no matter where. Hockey is an increasingly suburban phenomena, as outdoor rink hockey is increasingly rare even where winter is five months long.
I'm originally from the Quad Cities. They tried to jump start hockey there and it never really took off, so no....its not simply a "small town thing" in Iowa in regard to where it isn't popular. Certain areas of the State may be into it and certain areas aren't. I would say though that no where in the State is the interest in hockey anywhere near the level of the interest in State's that are even farther North.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
hey look...another sport Rutgers can be bad in!
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 05:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
hey look...another sport Rutgers can be bad in!
Exactly.
I'm not a "winning isn't everything; it's the only thing" kind of guy, but don't you have to win something sometime? Doesn't a cumulative .350 winning percentage across all sports get old?
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 05:48 PM)e-parade Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
Unless it leads in to an all sports invite, why would UCONN leave Hockey East?
good point. why would the B1G want UConn for hockey only? Doesnt make sense for either of them IMO
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 06:52 PM)gosports1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 05:48 PM)e-parade Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
Unless it leads in to an all sports invite, why would UCONN leave Hockey East?
good point. why would the B1G want UConn for hockey only? Doesnt make sense for either of them IMO
The B1G wants a hockey presence in NYC now. They are partipating in a early season hockey showcase at Barclay's with Penn St. Other teams will rotate, but UConn would be best. Plus a possibility of the conference tournament there at the Devils or Islanders rink.
For UConn, why wouldn't their leadership jump at a B1G affiliate spot? It would pay off much more than Hockey East and get their foot in the door for P5 membership.
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The answer: DMA #1, New York NY-NJ-CT-PA. As much as B1G leadership drools over NYC, I'm sure it's been considered. I don't think it will happen given the inroads BTN has already made in the New York market.
Arizona State to the B1G will happen because of other benefits related to having a hockey program in the state of Arizona. B1G snowbirders can follow their own team when they visit ASU, and getting any improvement to BTN's distribution in Arizona can be huge. One of the things the B1G gained when Nebraska joined was having a substantial alumni presence in Phoenix. I would go so far as to suggest if any Pac 12 school needs a home for a new hockey program, it will be the B1G.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 05:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
hey look...another sport Rutgers can be bad in!
Isn't Rutgers going to announce a solution to the RAC in June. Having a multipurpose arena with ice making capabilities like Ohio St, Wisconsin, and Nebraska has to be a consideration.
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RE: Rutgers studying adding DI, Big Ten Hockey
(05-31-2015 08:44 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-31-2015 06:52 PM)gosports1 Wrote: (05-31-2015 05:48 PM)e-parade Wrote: (05-31-2015 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/news_de...s_id=87178
So, Nebraska has its rink ready,
Iowa may participate in the new rink being proposed in Coralville,
Northwestern has its own hockey study group,
Indiana needs a replacement for Assembly Hall,
Illinois needs a rink donor,
Maryland has old Coleman to refurbish when they have money again,
So that only leaves Purdue.
Could see NYC hosting the Big Ten tournament. Detroit and St Paul locations haven't drawn. At least NY has other things to do.
Ariz St and UConn affiliate memberships are still possible.
Unless it leads in to an all sports invite, why would UCONN leave Hockey East?
good point. why would the B1G want UConn for hockey only? Doesnt make sense for either of them IMO
The B1G wants a hockey presence in NYC now. They are partipating in a early season hockey showcase at Barclay's with Penn St. Other teams will rotate, but UConn would be best. Plus a possibility of the conference tournament there at the Devils or Islanders rink.
For UConn, why wouldn't their leadership jump at a B1G affiliate spot? It would pay off much more than Hockey East and get their foot in the door for P5 membership.
I'll also add:
A. Finished #10 in attendance last season.
B. Flagship university with quality academics.
C. Makes the New England recruiting hotbed more accessible.
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