(05-31-2015 01:11 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 10:52 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mi...bowl-games


Here’s a breakdown of the top-earning conferences for Bowl season this year in the new CFP model, based on conference bowl game payouts:

SEC-$87.5M
ACC-$83.5M
PAC-$60M
BIG-$60M
BIG12 -$58M
MTNW-$16M
AAC-$12M
Sun-$12M
MAC-$12M
CUSA-$12M

I don't think that is bowl game earnings. It looks more like CFP earnings (and its off a bit even on that).

The payouts listed in the article are just plain wrong. They look like 2013 payouts. Also, the conference payouts are the total for the CFP/NY6. I've seen these posted elsewhere.

(06-04-2015 12:32 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 01:11 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 10:52 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mi...bowl-games


Here’s a breakdown of the top-earning conferences for Bowl season this year in the new CFP model, based on conference bowl game payouts:

SEC-$87.5M
ACC-$83.5M
PAC-$60M
BIG-$60M
BIG12 -$58M
MTNW-$16M
AAC-$12M
Sun-$12M
MAC-$12M
CUSA-$12M

I don't think that is bowl game earnings. It looks more like CFP earnings (and its off a bit even on that).

The payouts listed in the article are just plain wrong. They look like 2013 payouts. Also, the conference payouts are the total for the CFP/NY6. I've seen these posted elsewhere.

For the P5 it's 100% correct...
SEC 50 million CFP payout, 27.5 Orange Bowl, 6 mil for Alabama, 4 mil for Ole Miss. 87.5 mil total
ACC 50 million CFP payout, 27.5 Orange Bowl, 6 mil for FSU. 83.5 mil total.
Pac 12 50 million CFP payout, 6 mil for Oregon, 4 mil for Arizona. 60 mil total.
Big Ten 50 million CFP payout, 6 mil for Ohio St, 4 mil for Mich St. 60 mil total.
Big 12 50 million CFP payout, 4 mil each for Baylor, TCU 58 mil total.

(06-04-2015 12:12 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(06-04-2015 11:24 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  Aren't most of those "earnings" numbers just bowl payouts? Some bowls require much lower expenditures on the part of the schools. So you might break even or even make a little money on the Potato Bowl, but lose money on a bowl with a higher payout.

What a G5 school/Conf needs to ask themselves is this..

2013 what was the money made in the BCS.... to 2014 CFP...MAC made 12M....Not sure how that was divided amongest the MAC, but I am almost certain that the MAC never made 12M in the BCS era...

Probably not, and the other conferences didn't make as much as these numbers would suggest either. UConn went to a BCS game and still lost money. I know it's how the money is divvied up between team and conference, but still. There are some serious expenses involved. I personally don't care about revenue. I care more about profit, or lack of loss at least.

AM I correct in stating that each conf payes out the new CFP money differently...

The way I read it is that the ACC will divide the 83.5 from 2014 CFP against the 11 teams that went meaning they will get 7.5M after expenses t add to the 23M...

Is this correct that some ACC teams may get 30M in revenue??? on the ACC 2014-15 Tax (Dave Teel will tweet it I am sure) that will not be released until next year...

Link
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2014/...e-payouts/

(06-04-2015 01:01 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(06-04-2015 12:12 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(06-04-2015 11:24 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  Aren't most of those "earnings" numbers just bowl payouts? Some bowls require much lower expenditures on the part of the schools. So you might break even or even make a little money on the Potato Bowl, but lose money on a bowl with a higher payout.

What a G5 school/Conf needs to ask themselves is this..

2013 what was the money made in the BCS.... to 2014 CFP...MAC made 12M....Not sure how that was divided amongest the MAC, but I am almost certain that the MAC never made 12M in the BCS era...

Probably not, and the other conferences didn't make as much as these numbers would suggest either. UConn went to a BCS game and still lost money. I know it's how the money is divvied up between team and conference, but still. There are some serious expenses involved. I personally don't care about revenue. I care more about profit, or lack of loss at least.

When Boise State beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl, Oklahoma got paid more for losing the game, and Boise made less. I think schools like Boise should have gotten a bonus for the most talk about bowl games in recent years. People still talk about the game.

(06-15-2015 02:29 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  AM I correct in stating that each conf payes out the new CFP money differently...

The way I read it is that the ACC will divide the 83.5 from 2014 CFP against the 11 teams that went meaning they will get 7.5M after expenses t add to the 23M...

Is this correct that some ACC teams may get 30M in revenue??? on the ACC 2014-15 Tax (Dave Teel will tweet it I am sure) that will not be released until next year...

Link
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2014/...e-payouts/

No. You are not correct. Only the SEC rewards schools with additional money for making bowl games (on top of a travel allowance).

The ACC gives bowl teams a travel allowance. That's removed off the top from all postseason monies. Then the remaining amount is split evenly amongst all 14 schools. Though it doesn't say it in the article, the ACC office is sad to take an equal share in all ACC revenue.

(06-01-2015 10:28 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 10:24 AM)stever20 Wrote:  The basketball dollars are pretty close though. If ACC was at 120 units and all 4 other P5 were at 60 units... and say units worth 300k....
ACC- 36 million- 2.4 per
B10/SEC- 18 million- 1.29 per
P12- 18 million 1.5 per
B12- 18 million 1.8 per

That's an extreme best case for the ACC- it'll never happen. ACC will be lucky to get 2 million per(or about 100 units). Big 12 to match that would just need to have 67 units.

And I would say the Big Ten had been leaving the SEC in the dust with their network- they were making a good 4-5 million more per year. That's changing. Also, that didn't hurt the SEC as much as it's hurting the ACC because those SEC schools aren't in direct competition with the Big Ten, while SEC schools are in direct competition with the ACC...

I think it's getting pretty close to saying that the ACC has to get a network to be anywhere near viable. It's their only chance to really slice into the SEC money advantage.

We will have to wait and see about the Basketball dollars and the 48M from the CFP...not saying you are wrong, but time will show who gets what and from where...

I am not sure about the viable comment, however I do agree that the ACC needs a network and thus why they are working on a 2016/2017 launch with ESPN.

Oh really? I didn't realize a network had been announced.

It hasn't, and likely won't until the Big Ten situation works its way out. If ESPN loses Big Ten, no way will they allow a ACC network- as they would need the volume.

Oh, is that a guarantee?

(06-16-2015 02:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Oh, is that a guarantee?

What is in it for ESPN? It's got to work for both sides.