(06-12-2015 09:58 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 08:43 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 10:48 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I kind of wish Delaware would stop showing up on these things, because they aren't budging. Sure, they studied it. A LOT of schools studied FBS. That's due diligence. They also studied this just as or soon after some of the biggest and final FBS moves were made, so it's not like anything is all that fresh. Delaware's study came before JMU, iirc, so it should say something that JMU's flirting with the upgrade while Delaware's mum.

Delaware did the work, and didn't like their findings enough to move on anything.

Could they reenter that fold? I'm sure to get ahead or keep pace with certain other schools, they reopen matters. Like, what has to happen to CAA or CAAF to move them? I doubt they're ahead of schools like JMU, Missouri State, etc...because those guys have probably shown actual commitment on the subject. With Delaware, I don't know...the venues would be seeing some renovations, I would think. That's the sort of "smoke" that goes with these things.

http://www.delawareonline.com/story/spor...s/8125459/

Delaware honors its research and academic side to go to the Sun Belt. The MAC may be better, but UD probably values its CAA brethren too much to move outside that group. But if JMU, Stony Brook, Albany, UNH, and maybe Towson have plans if FBS move up rules changed, Delaware would have to go, as only Richmond, Will & Mary, and Nova would be left in its neighborhood. JMU and Delaware will likely move as a tandem, whatever they decide. Delaware's influence is probably a major barrier for JMU going to the Sun Belt.

It seems jmu is very choosey about what circumstances under which they would move to fbs. So does stony brook unh albany and or towson have any plans or desires to move to fbs. I have never read anything of it.

As an alum of JMU, it is amazing to me how much HIGHER our admin regards our academics than the rest of our peers. A true small town hierarchy that doesn't get that we're far from Harvard.

Great public school? For sure. Top 50 public? Probably.

Public Ivy? No

(06-12-2015 09:58 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 08:43 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 10:48 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I kind of wish Delaware would stop showing up on these things, because they aren't budging. Sure, they studied it. A LOT of schools studied FBS. That's due diligence. They also studied this just as or soon after some of the biggest and final FBS moves were made, so it's not like anything is all that fresh. Delaware's study came before JMU, iirc, so it should say something that JMU's flirting with the upgrade while Delaware's mum.

Delaware did the work, and didn't like their findings enough to move on anything.

Could they reenter that fold? I'm sure to get ahead or keep pace with certain other schools, they reopen matters. Like, what has to happen to CAA or CAAF to move them? I doubt they're ahead of schools like JMU, Missouri State, etc...because those guys have probably shown actual commitment on the subject. With Delaware, I don't know...the venues would be seeing some renovations, I would think. That's the sort of "smoke" that goes with these things.

http://www.delawareonline.com/story/spor...s/8125459/

Delaware honors its research and academic side to go to the Sun Belt. The MAC may be better, but UD probably values its CAA brethren too much to move outside that group. But if JMU, Stony Brook, Albany, UNH, and maybe Towson have plans if FBS move up rules changed, Delaware would have to go, as only Richmond, Will & Mary, and Nova would be left in its neighborhood. JMU and Delaware will likely move as a tandem, whatever they decide. Delaware's influence is probably a major barrier for JMU going to the Sun Belt.

It seems jmu is very choosey about what circumstances under which they would move to fbs. So does stony brook unh albany and or towson have any plans or desires to move to fbs. I have never read anything of it.

Several years ago, the former Stony Brook AD said FBS was a goal, with a conference like the Big Easts footprint. Obviously, goals change and that one had to. Always thought hockey should be a Stony Brook sport, but that AD said football would need more resources to even think about hockey.

Albany's new stadium was built with expansion in mind, and they want to be competitive with SBU and Buffalo in athletics.. Towson would only be the second FBS public iñ Maryland, and they have an relatively new stadium. UNH who knows, but they are expanding their stadium.

(06-12-2015 10:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 06:36 AM)NoDak Wrote:  http://brook.land/2015/05/athletics-unve...year-plan/

With JMU, Liberty, Towson, Delaware, maybe Villanova, Stony Brook, Albany, UMass, Youngstown St, and UNH, a nice east coast conference can be formed. Stony Brook has long expressed FBS ambitions.

Throw in Kennesaw St and Jacksonville St further south and it starts looking like the FBS conference the CAA was going to start before ODU and Ga St bolted and Charlotte and App St got away.

These look like FCS facilities. Seems like they are doing what is necessary to keep up.

At least Stony Brook has their own facilities.

Plus, If Stony Brook plays a Penn State at home? They could play at Yankee Stadium. Pinstripe Bowl is played there. Any P5 would schedule them to play at that stadium. Be exposure for the schools to the NYC crowd. That is why Stony Brook and Rutgers against each other as Big 10 opponents in the future could be great. NYC Vs New Jersey schools. Could be the new Red River Rivalry.

(06-12-2015 11:55 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 09:58 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 08:43 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 10:48 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I kind of wish Delaware would stop showing up on these things, because they aren't budging. Sure, they studied it. A LOT of schools studied FBS. That's due diligence. They also studied this just as or soon after some of the biggest and final FBS moves were made, so it's not like anything is all that fresh. Delaware's study came before JMU, iirc, so it should say something that JMU's flirting with the upgrade while Delaware's mum.

Delaware did the work, and didn't like their findings enough to move on anything.

Could they reenter that fold? I'm sure to get ahead or keep pace with certain other schools, they reopen matters. Like, what has to happen to CAA or CAAF to move them? I doubt they're ahead of schools like JMU, Missouri State, etc...because those guys have probably shown actual commitment on the subject. With Delaware, I don't know...the venues would be seeing some renovations, I would think. That's the sort of "smoke" that goes with these things.

http://www.delawareonline.com/story/spor...s/8125459/

Delaware honors its research and academic side to go to the Sun Belt. The MAC may be better, but UD probably values its CAA brethren too much to move outside that group. But if JMU, Stony Brook, Albany, UNH, and maybe Towson have plans if FBS move up rules changed, Delaware would have to go, as only Richmond, Will & Mary, and Nova would be left in its neighborhood. JMU and Delaware will likely move as a tandem, whatever they decide. Delaware's influence is probably a major barrier for JMU going to the Sun Belt.

It seems jmu is very choosey about what circumstances under which they would move to fbs. So does stony brook unh albany and or towson have any plans or desires to move to fbs. I have never read anything of it.

Several years ago, the former Stony Brook AD said FBS was a goal, with a conference like the Big Easts footprint. Obviously, goals change and that one had to. Always thought hockey should be a Stony Brook sport, but that AD said football would need more resources to even think about hockey.

Albany's new stadium was built with expansion in mind, and they want to be competitive with SBU and Buffalo in athletics.. Towson would only be the second FBS public iñ Maryland, and they have an relatively new stadium. UNH who knows, but they are expanding their stadium.

If AAC do split? I think some of these schools could go into the AAC.

(06-13-2015 12:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 10:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 06:36 AM)NoDak Wrote:  http://brook.land/2015/05/athletics-unve...year-plan/

With JMU, Liberty, Towson, Delaware, maybe Villanova, Stony Brook, Albany, UMass, Youngstown St, and UNH, a nice east coast conference can be formed. Stony Brook has long expressed FBS ambitions.

Throw in Kennesaw St and Jacksonville St further south and it starts looking like the FBS conference the CAA was going to start before ODU and Ga St bolted and Charlotte and App St got away.

These look like FCS facilities. Seems like they are doing what is necessary to keep up.

At least Stony Brook has their own facilities.

Plus, If Stony Brook plays a Penn State at home? They could play at Yankee Stadium. Pinstripe Bowl is played there. Any P5 would schedule them to play at that stadium. Be exposure for the schools to the NYC crowd. That is why Stony Brook and Rutgers against each other as Big 10 opponents in the future could be great. NYC Vs New Jersey schools. Could be the new Red River Rivalry.

Or the fact that Stony Brook has more DI wins in a season that Georgia State has in it's history.



If effin' Georgia State deserves FBS status about the only team you can't include is Savannah State.

(06-13-2015 12:44 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-13-2015 12:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 10:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 06:36 AM)NoDak Wrote:  http://brook.land/2015/05/athletics-unve...year-plan/

With JMU, Liberty, Towson, Delaware, maybe Villanova, Stony Brook, Albany, UMass, Youngstown St, and UNH, a nice east coast conference can be formed. Stony Brook has long expressed FBS ambitions.

Throw in Kennesaw St and Jacksonville St further south and it starts looking like the FBS conference the CAA was going to start before ODU and Ga St bolted and Charlotte and App St got away.

These look like FCS facilities. Seems like they are doing what is necessary to keep up.

At least Stony Brook has their own facilities.

Plus, If Stony Brook plays a Penn State at home? They could play at Yankee Stadium. Pinstripe Bowl is played there. Any P5 would schedule them to play at that stadium. Be exposure for the schools to the NYC crowd. That is why Stony Brook and Rutgers against each other as Big 10 opponents in the future could be great. NYC Vs New Jersey schools. Could be the new Red River Rivalry.

Or the fact that Stony Brook has more DI wins in a season that Georgia State has in it's history.



If effin' Georgia State deserves FBS status about the only team you can't include is Savannah State.

Wow. Panties fully bunched up eh? I was just stating that they seem to be building what they need to be at the top of FCS. I wouldnt assume they have FBS intentions since there is only one G5 conference in their area which they cannot get into. As for GSU. We're doing this. Have a great day.

(06-13-2015 12:44 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-13-2015 12:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 10:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 06:36 AM)NoDak Wrote:  http://brook.land/2015/05/athletics-unve...year-plan/

With JMU, Liberty, Towson, Delaware, maybe Villanova, Stony Brook, Albany, UMass, Youngstown St, and UNH, a nice east coast conference can be formed. Stony Brook has long expressed FBS ambitions.

Throw in Kennesaw St and Jacksonville St further south and it starts looking like the FBS conference the CAA was going to start before ODU and Ga St bolted and Charlotte and App St got away.

These look like FCS facilities. Seems like they are doing what is necessary to keep up.

At least Stony Brook has their own facilities.

Plus, If Stony Brook plays a Penn State at home? They could play at Yankee Stadium. Pinstripe Bowl is played there. Any P5 would schedule them to play at that stadium. Be exposure for the schools to the NYC crowd. That is why Stony Brook and Rutgers against each other as Big 10 opponents in the future could be great. NYC Vs New Jersey schools. Could be the new Red River Rivalry.

Or the fact that Stony Brook has more DI wins in a season that Georgia State has in it's history.



If effin' Georgia State deserves FBS status about the only team you can't include is Savannah State.

Any FCS schools except for Davidson have more wins than Georgia State in football.

(06-13-2015 01:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-13-2015 12:44 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-13-2015 12:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 10:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  These look like FCS facilities. Seems like they are doing what is necessary to keep up.

At least Stony Brook has their own facilities.

Plus, If Stony Brook plays a Penn State at home? They could play at Yankee Stadium. Pinstripe Bowl is played there. Any P5 would schedule them to play at that stadium. Be exposure for the schools to the NYC crowd. That is why Stony Brook and Rutgers against each other as Big 10 opponents in the future could be great. NYC Vs New Jersey schools. Could be the new Red River Rivalry.

Or the fact that Stony Brook has more DI wins in a season that Georgia State has in it's history.



If effin' Georgia State deserves FBS status about the only team you can't include is Savannah State.

Any FCS schools except for Davidson have more wins than Georgia State in football.

We have been around 5 years genius.

Do you dream of us at night? LOL

(06-13-2015 01:56 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-13-2015 01:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-13-2015 12:44 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-13-2015 12:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 10:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  At least Stony Brook has their own facilities.

Plus, If Stony Brook plays a Penn State at home? They could play at Yankee Stadium. Pinstripe Bowl is played there. Any P5 would schedule them to play at that stadium. Be exposure for the schools to the NYC crowd. That is why Stony Brook and Rutgers against each other as Big 10 opponents in the future could be great. NYC Vs New Jersey schools. Could be the new Red River Rivalry.

Or the fact that Stony Brook has more DI wins in a season that Georgia State has in it's history.



If effin' Georgia State deserves FBS status about the only team you can't include is Savannah State.

Any FCS schools except for Davidson have more wins than Georgia State in football.

We have been around 5 years genius.

Do you dream of us at night? LOL

You guys got called up way too soon. There are more deserving schools in FCS that can handle FBS schools.

(06-12-2015 10:47 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 09:58 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 08:43 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 10:48 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I kind of wish Delaware would stop showing up on these things, because they aren't budging. Sure, they studied it. A LOT of schools studied FBS. That's due diligence. They also studied this just as or soon after some of the biggest and final FBS moves were made, so it's not like anything is all that fresh. Delaware's study came before JMU, iirc, so it should say something that JMU's flirting with the upgrade while Delaware's mum.

Delaware did the work, and didn't like their findings enough to move on anything.

Could they reenter that fold? I'm sure to get ahead or keep pace with certain other schools, they reopen matters. Like, what has to happen to CAA or CAAF to move them? I doubt they're ahead of schools like JMU, Missouri State, etc...because those guys have probably shown actual commitment on the subject. With Delaware, I don't know...the venues would be seeing some renovations, I would think. That's the sort of "smoke" that goes with these things.

http://www.delawareonline.com/story/spor...s/8125459/

Delaware honors its research and academic side to go to the Sun Belt. The MAC may be better, but UD probably values its CAA brethren too much to move outside that group. But if JMU, Stony Brook, Albany, UNH, and maybe Towson have plans if FBS move up rules changed, Delaware would have to go, as only Richmond, Will & Mary, and Nova would be left in its neighborhood. JMU and Delaware will likely move as a tandem, whatever they decide. Delaware's influence is probably a major barrier for JMU going to the Sun Belt.

It seems jmu is very choosey about what circumstances under which they would move to fbs. So does stony brook unh albany and or towson have any plans or desires to move to fbs. I have never read anything of it.

As an alum of JMU, it is amazing to me how much HIGHER our admin regards our academics than the rest of our peers. A true small town hierarchy that doesn't get that we're far from Harvard.

Great public school? For sure. Top 50 public? Probably.

Public Ivy? No

If they were a top 50 public, they'd be a public Ivy. The majority of the top 100 are considered "public Ivy" schools.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...top-public

(06-13-2015 01:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-13-2015 01:56 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-13-2015 01:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-13-2015 12:44 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-13-2015 12:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Plus, If Stony Brook plays a Penn State at home? They could play at Yankee Stadium. Pinstripe Bowl is played there. Any P5 would schedule them to play at that stadium. Be exposure for the schools to the NYC crowd. That is why Stony Brook and Rutgers against each other as Big 10 opponents in the future could be great. NYC Vs New Jersey schools. Could be the new Red River Rivalry.

Or the fact that Stony Brook has more DI wins in a season that Georgia State has in it's history.



If effin' Georgia State deserves FBS status about the only team you can't include is Savannah State.

Any FCS schools except for Davidson have more wins than Georgia State in football.

We have been around 5 years genius.

Do you dream of us at night? LOL

You guys got called up way too soon. There are more deserving schools in FCS that can handle FBS schools.

Deserving?!?!?

Sorry Son but that has NEVER been criteria for a conference invite...EVER.

See Maryland and Rutgers.

(06-13-2015 06:34 PM)AntiG Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 10:47 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 09:58 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 08:43 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 10:48 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I kind of wish Delaware would stop showing up on these things, because they aren't budging. Sure, they studied it. A LOT of schools studied FBS. That's due diligence. They also studied this just as or soon after some of the biggest and final FBS moves were made, so it's not like anything is all that fresh. Delaware's study came before JMU, iirc, so it should say something that JMU's flirting with the upgrade while Delaware's mum.

Delaware did the work, and didn't like their findings enough to move on anything.

Could they reenter that fold? I'm sure to get ahead or keep pace with certain other schools, they reopen matters. Like, what has to happen to CAA or CAAF to move them? I doubt they're ahead of schools like JMU, Missouri State, etc...because those guys have probably shown actual commitment on the subject. With Delaware, I don't know...the venues would be seeing some renovations, I would think. That's the sort of "smoke" that goes with these things.

http://www.delawareonline.com/story/spor...s/8125459/

Delaware honors its research and academic side to go to the Sun Belt. The MAC may be better, but UD probably values its CAA brethren too much to move outside that group. But if JMU, Stony Brook, Albany, UNH, and maybe Towson have plans if FBS move up rules changed, Delaware would have to go, as only Richmond, Will & Mary, and Nova would be left in its neighborhood. JMU and Delaware will likely move as a tandem, whatever they decide. Delaware's influence is probably a major barrier for JMU going to the Sun Belt.

It seems jmu is very choosey about what circumstances under which they would move to fbs. So does stony brook unh albany and or towson have any plans or desires to move to fbs. I have never read anything of it.

As an alum of JMU, it is amazing to me how much HIGHER our admin regards our academics than the rest of our peers. A true small town hierarchy that doesn't get that we're far from Harvard.

Great public school? For sure. Top 50 public? Probably.

Public Ivy? No

If they were a top 50 public, they'd be a public Ivy. The majority of the top 100 are considered "public Ivy" schools.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...top-public

100 based on academics??? I don't think so. There may not even be 10 public schools that could be considered worthy of a title with "Ivy" in it... Berkeley, UVA, William & Mary, Illinois, Michigan, Ga Tech, UNC (though a little tarnished now) are just about it. UCLA, etc are pushing it.

(06-14-2015 12:26 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(06-13-2015 06:34 PM)AntiG Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 10:47 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 09:58 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 08:43 PM)NoDak Wrote:  http://www.delawareonline.com/story/spor...s/8125459/

Delaware honors its research and academic side to go to the Sun Belt. The MAC may be better, but UD probably values its CAA brethren too much to move outside that group. But if JMU, Stony Brook, Albany, UNH, and maybe Towson have plans if FBS move up rules changed, Delaware would have to go, as only Richmond, Will & Mary, and Nova would be left in its neighborhood. JMU and Delaware will likely move as a tandem, whatever they decide. Delaware's influence is probably a major barrier for JMU going to the Sun Belt.

It seems jmu is very choosey about what circumstances under which they would move to fbs. So does stony brook unh albany and or towson have any plans or desires to move to fbs. I have never read anything of it.

As an alum of JMU, it is amazing to me how much HIGHER our admin regards our academics than the rest of our peers. A true small town hierarchy that doesn't get that we're far from Harvard.

Great public school? For sure. Top 50 public? Probably.

Public Ivy? No

If they were a top 50 public, they'd be a public Ivy. The majority of the top 100 are considered "public Ivy" schools.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...top-public

100 based on academics??? I don't think so. There may not even be 10 public schools that could be considered worthy of a title with "Ivy" in it... Berkeley, UVA, William & Mary, Illinois, Michigan, Ga Tech, UNC (though a little tarnished now) are just about it. UCLA, etc are pushing it.

Actually there are a lot of departments/individual colleges in the public universities that are superior to the IVY league departments. Especially in the engineering specialities where the IVY league is not that stellar overall.