I've been telling you peeps that there is a lot of pressure to be seen in the coming years for us G5'ers with the new structure being put in place from above. If you truly love your football team then I suggest you do everything possible to get as many butts in the seats come every home game. I honestly believe it matters. FBS expenses with 15,000 reported butts in the seats ain't gonna cut it, not for very long, in my humble opinion.

Quote:UAB fans aren't the only ones eagerly awaiting to see whether university president Ray Watts reinstates football after shutting the sport down Dec. 2 of last year.

Las Vegas Journal-Review reports that small schools such as UNLV have an interest in Watts' decision because it has a tough time financially maintaining football. UNLV considered dropping football, but the hiring of football coach Tony Sanchez has reenergized interest in the sport, the website reports.

So if UAB brings football back, then that will show small FBS football programs like UNLV that they too should stick with the sport. If Watts sticks to his initial decision, maybe other schools will follow suit and drop football.

Watts is scheduled to make a decision by Monday.

While I agree with this idea, the difference is location. Alabama is a football state. Nevada isn't. I don't think there would be nearly as great an outrage if UNLV drops football as there was at UAB.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/stor.../27958459/

It shouldn't have any impact on UNLV's decision... That's all I have to add. And their helmets rock:

With COA coming right around the corner I can see IA losing 5-7 schools in the next 5-10 years. Maybe a lil more than that. I can see some just cutting football and others moving down to IAA. Not many IAA institutions have committed to COA.

Ive told a few people since the beginning of this situation with UAB that I think UAT wants UAB in a basketball only conference like the Summit, MVC. ASUN what ever. And once they are established in that conference they will let football come back at the IAA level if they could find a football only membership in say the Southland or OVC.

(05-27-2015 09:26 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  With COA coming right around the corner I can see IA losing 5-7 schools in the next 5-10 years. Maybe a lil more than that. I can see some just cutting football and others moving down to IAA. Not many IAA institutions have committed to COA.

Ive told a few people since the beginning of this situation with UAB that I think UAT wants UAB in a basketball only conference like the Summit, MVC. ASUN what ever. And once they are established in that conference they will let football come back at the IAA level if they could find a football only membership in say the Southland or OVC.

You could be right HZ though I think it's going to be even worse in the end. I believe we'll eventually see UAB as a graduate-only campus with no athletics at all.

(05-27-2015 09:26 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  With COA coming right around the corner I can see IA losing 5-7 schools in the next 5-10 years. Maybe a lil more than that. I can see some just cutting football and others moving down to IAA. Not many IAA institutions have committed to COA.

Ive told a few people since the beginning of this situation with UAB that I think UAT wants UAB in a basketball only conference like the Summit, MVC. ASUN what ever. And once they are established in that conference they will let football come back at the IAA level if they could find a football only membership in say the Southland or OVC.

Cost of attendance may be used as justification to scale back an athletic program but it is BS.

COA kicks in starting in August. Depending on the school, if offering to all sports the cost will be about one million.

Between May 1 and the end of July everyone in an FBS conference will receive their distribution, most schools will see their distribution increase by about a million dollars because of the CFP.

The money to pay COA for most schools is there.

Who won't have the money via CFP?
UMass and BYU because of how money is distributed to independent G5 (irrelevant to Army because they already pay cash).
Idaho and NMSU because they do not receive equity shares as associate members.
The old Big East members who weren't paying entry fees and see their money fall from the BCS.

(05-27-2015 09:09 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  I've been telling you peeps that there is a lot of pressure to be seen in the coming years for us G5'ers with the new structure being put in place from above. If you truly love your football team then I suggest you do everything possible to get as many butts in the seats come every home game. I honestly believe it matters. FBS expenses with 15,000 reported butts in the seats ain't gonna cut it, not for very long, in my humble opinion.

Quote:UAB fans aren't the only ones eagerly awaiting to see whether university president Ray Watts reinstates football after shutting the sport down Dec. 2 of last year.

Las Vegas Journal-Review reports that small schools such as UNLV have an interest in Watts' decision because it has a tough time financially maintaining football. UNLV considered dropping football, but the hiring of football coach Tony Sanchez has reenergized interest in the sport, the website reports.

So if UAB brings football back, then that will show small FBS football programs like UNLV that they too should stick with the sport. If Watts sticks to his initial decision, maybe other schools will follow suit and drop football.

Watts is scheduled to make a decision by Monday.

While I agree with this idea, the difference is location. Alabama is a football state. Nevada isn't. I don't think there would be nearly as great an outrage if UNLV drops football as there was at UAB.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/stor.../27958459/

UNLV is not going to be influenced by whatever decision UAB comes to. They are not dropping football. They have a new coach that is bringing a lot of energy and is already having some success in recruiting. There is a lot to do in Vegas and watching bad football is not high on anyone's list. They just need to win and on-campus stadium would help as well.

(05-27-2015 10:48 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Cost of attendance may be used as justification to scale back an athletic program but it is BS.

My guess is if the SB cuts ties with Idaho we will see the 1st hammer drop (A decision has to be made on Idaho before the end of the year). If the SB tells Idaho they are done in the SB after 2017 does Idaho swallow their pride and go back to full membership in the Big Sky and play IAA football or do they just cut football.

I would say those who cut programs are those who are poor to begin with and have APR problems. It may not be right but it would give those schools at least 2 plausible reasons why the sport is being cut.

(05-27-2015 11:10 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  UNLV is not going to be influenced by whatever decision UAB comes to. They are not dropping football. They have a new coach that is bringing a lot of energy and is already having some success in recruiting. There is a lot to do in Vegas and watching bad football is not high on anyone's list. They just need to win and on-campus stadium would help as well.

That's easier said than done at UNLV. Their overall record is 234-300-4. UNLV has only been playing football since 1968. Their last 5 coaches from 1990 till now are 89-205. Or 3.56 wins and 8.2 losses per season. In that 25 years UNLV had 4 winning seasons in 1992, 1994, 2000 and 2013.

The coach they hired has never coached a down higher than HS. In my experiences watching HS coaches jump to college coaching just doesn't work. You have to look no further than UNT to see the perfect example. Todd Dodge was already a HS coaching legend in Texas. Just at Southlake Carroll Dodge was 98-11 with 4 state titles in 7 years. At UNT he lasted 43 games (3 full seasons and 7 of the 4th) and in that time he was a whooping 6-37. So color me extremely skeptical about who UNLV hired.

(05-27-2015 11:31 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 10:48 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Cost of attendance may be used as justification to scale back an athletic program but it is BS.

My guess is if the SB cuts ties with Idaho we will see the 1st hammer drop (A decision has to be made on Idaho before the end of the year). If the SB tells Idaho they are done in the SB after 2017 does Idaho swallow their pride and go back to full membership in the Big Sky and play IAA football or do they just cut football.

I would say those who cut programs are those who are poor to begin with and have APR problems. It may not be right but it would give those schools at least 2 plausible reasons why the sport is being cut.

(05-27-2015 11:10 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  UNLV is not going to be influenced by whatever decision UAB comes to. They are not dropping football. They have a new coach that is bringing a lot of energy and is already having some success in recruiting. There is a lot to do in Vegas and watching bad football is not high on anyone's list. They just need to win and on-campus stadium would help as well.

That's easier said than done at UNLV. Their overall record is 234-300-4. UNLV has only been playing football since 1968. Their last 5 coaches from 1990 till now are 89-205. Or 3.56 wins and 8.2 losses per season. In that 25 years UNLV had 4 winning seasons in 1992, 1994, 2000 and 2013.

The coach they hired has never coached a down higher than HS. In my experiences watching HS coaches jump to college coaching just doesn't work. You have to look no further than UNT to see the perfect example. Todd Dodge was already a HS coaching legend in Texas. Just at Southlake Carroll Dodge was 98-11 with 4 state titles in 7 years. At UNT he lasted 43 games (3 full seasons and 7 of the 4th) and in that time he was a whooping 6-37. So color me extremely skeptical about who UNLV hired.

the problem for many coaches that make the jump from high school to college is that they now have to recruit and have to deal with pesky donors who think they have a say in things. a school like southlake literally had so much talent coming in every year that it would take a pretty bad coach to not be successful. now at the college level you have to recruit all over the country and many times the players with the best football skills can barely read or write but still must gain admission to the school. a college coach doesnt have the safety net of parents to help keep an eye on the player's off the field and has to deal with players with records or drug problems or kids of their own and hope they can stay eligible to play.

I am a big believer in hiring former high schools coaches mainly because they come out of the 7 on 7 culture.

But the guys who have gone from great high school head coach to good to great college head coach have been people with college experience. Art Briles was a college assistant for three years before getting a crack at being a college head coach. Hugh Freeze had three or four years as an assistant plus time as an NAIA head coach before getting his shot. Malzahn had six years as a college assistant.

This could be a good thing if the MWC raids the Belt for Idaho

(05-28-2015 10:01 AM)DawggoneEagle Wrote:  This could be a good thing if the MWC raids the Belt for Idaho

Why would they go after them, they could go after UTEP and be much better.

(05-28-2015 11:09 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(05-28-2015 10:01 AM)DawggoneEagle Wrote:  This could be a good thing if the MWC raids the Belt for Idaho

Why would they go after them, they could go after UTEP and be much better.

That wouldn't help us a bit though !
We can always hope can't we.

But it will help. We should drop Idaho no matter what happens, MWC takes UTEP and CUSA takes another hit. Now the SBC front office grows a pair and attacks CUSA as well taking USM and Marshall, we could even offer a trade and they get GaSt.

It all works out in my mind.

(05-28-2015 11:35 AM)Usajags Wrote:  But it will help. We should drop Idaho no matter what happens, MWC takes UTEP and CUSA takes another hit. Now the SBC front office grows a pair and attacks CUSA as well taking USM and Marshall, we could even offer a trade and they get GaSt.

It all works out in my mind.

I doubt if unlv cares about what happens to uab. they worked for many years to get in the mwc and are not about to drop football no matter the cost.

(05-28-2015 11:35 AM)Usajags Wrote:  But it will help. We should drop Idaho no matter what happens, MWC takes UTEP and CUSA takes another hit. Now the SBC front office grows a pair and attacks CUSA as well taking USM and Marshall, we could even offer a trade and they get GaSt.

It all works out in my mind.

It appears you have a very active mind.

This would be great news for either Idaho or NMSU. One less team in the MWC opens up a spot.

(05-28-2015 12:58 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  This would be great news for either Idaho or NMSU. One less team in the MWC opens up a spot.

NMSU would fill in as BSU move to the West division. Maybe even Texas St. UTEP for all there wishy-washy thinking still wouldn't go to the MW because of the Texas CUSA schools for their alumni.

(05-27-2015 11:31 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 11:10 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  UNLV is not going to be influenced by whatever decision UAB comes to. They are not dropping football. They have a new coach that is bringing a lot of energy and is already having some success in recruiting. There is a lot to do in Vegas and watching bad football is not high on anyone's list. They just need to win and on-campus stadium would help as well.

That's easier said than done at UNLV. Their overall record is 234-300-4. UNLV has only been playing football since 1968. Their last 5 coaches from 1990 till now are 89-205. Or 3.56 wins and 8.2 losses per season. In that 25 years UNLV had 4 winning seasons in 1992, 1994, 2000 and 2013.

The coach they hired has never coached a down higher than HS. In my experiences watching HS coaches jump to college coaching just doesn't work. You have to look no further than UNT to see the perfect example. Todd Dodge was already a HS coaching legend in Texas. Just at Southlake Carroll Dodge was 98-11 with 4 state titles in 7 years. At UNT he lasted 43 games (3 full seasons and 7 of the 4th) and in that time he was a whooping 6-37. So color me extremely skeptical about who UNLV hired.

When Dodge took the job at UNT, he brought his high school defensive coordinator to be his DC at UNT and his high school offensive coordinator to be his OC at UNT. Big mistake.

Sanchez got the DC at Colorado to resign and take the same job at UNLV.
He hired as his Offensive Coordinator a guy that was OC at Nebraska. He also hired the Nebraska offensive line coach to be his offensive line coach at UNLV. He has brought in a very experienced staff of college coaches.

Sanchez is already doing pretty good in recruiting. He got an three star corner out in LA to select UNLV over Baylor. He has good connections in Vegas and California. If Nevada can win up in Reno, there is no reason that UNLV can't win in Las Vegas.

(05-28-2015 11:35 AM)Usajags Wrote:  But it will help. We should drop Idaho no matter what happens, MWC takes UTEP and CUSA takes another hit. Now the SBC front office grows a pair and attacks CUSA as well taking USM and Marshall, we could even offer a trade and they get GaSt.

It all works out in my mind.

Keep on dreaming Alice, Wonderland is around the corner....

(05-28-2015 05:33 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-28-2015 11:35 AM)Usajags Wrote:  But it will help. We should drop Idaho no matter what happens, MWC takes UTEP and CUSA takes another hit. Now the SBC front office grows a pair and attacks CUSA as well taking USM and Marshall, we could even offer a trade and they get GaSt.

It all works out in my mind.

Keep on dreaming Alice, Wonderland is around the corner....

He is certainly on something. There is no way Marshall would have the votes to get into the SBC...