(05-29-2015 01:39 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-28-2015 11:01 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 12:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I don't have a problem with it provided the police resign their positions and save the tax payers some money.

Imbecilic comment, and not surprising, considering the source.

No it isn't. If police don't want to do their job then they should quit.

Point to where they're not doing the job.

I will try to find a transcript of it but a police officer spoke on Hannity saying that he has told his officers to stand down.


"After the protests, it seems like the citizens would appreciate a lack of police presence, and that's exactly what they're getting,"

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/05/26/no...-get-worse

(05-29-2015 01:46 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I will try to find a transcript of it but a police officer spoke on Hannity saying that he has told his officers to stand down.


"After the protests, it seems like the citizens would appreciate a lack of police presence, and that's exactly what they're getting,"

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/05/26/no...-get-worse

They are still responding to calls, just not out proactively patrolling bad areas. I can't say that I blame them. If anything happens, they know they will have no support.

(05-29-2015 01:42 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 01:39 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-28-2015 11:01 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 12:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I don't have a problem with it provided the police resign their positions and save the tax payers some money.

Imbecilic comment, and not surprising, considering the source.

No it isn't. If police don't want to do their job then they should quit.

Point to where they're not doing the job.

When they're bothering me about having my labrador retriever on the beach (mind you this savage beast was nowhere near people) instead of attempting to prevent or solve actual crimes.

great! arrests are down! that means crime is down. Right guys? Right??

(05-29-2015 02:32 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 01:42 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 01:39 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-28-2015 11:01 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 12:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I don't have a problem with it provided the police resign their positions and save the tax payers some money.

Imbecilic comment, and not surprising, considering the source.

No it isn't. If police don't want to do their job then they should quit.

Point to where they're not doing the job.

When they're bothering me about having my labrador retriever on the beach (mind you this savage beast was nowhere near people) instead of attempting to prevent or solve actual crimes.

If the local law says no pets on the beach then they were doing their job.

(05-29-2015 02:30 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 01:46 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I will try to find a transcript of it but a police officer spoke on Hannity saying that he has told his officers to stand down.


"After the protests, it seems like the citizens would appreciate a lack of police presence, and that's exactly what they're getting,"

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/05/26/no...-get-worse

They are still responding to calls, just not out proactively patrolling bad areas. I can't say that I blame them. If anything happens, they know they will have no support.

But then you agree that they are no longer doing something that was part of their job a few months before?

(05-29-2015 03:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 02:30 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 01:46 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I will try to find a transcript of it but a police officer spoke on Hannity saying that he has told his officers to stand down.


"After the protests, it seems like the citizens would appreciate a lack of police presence, and that's exactly what they're getting,"

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/05/26/no...-get-worse

They are still responding to calls, just not out proactively patrolling bad areas. I can't say that I blame them. If anything happens, they know they will have no support.

But then you agree that they are no longer doing something that was part of their job a few months before?

There is no legal requirement for law enforcement to be proactive. As long as they are taking reports, doing investigations, and making arrests then they are doing their job.

The people of Baltimore are getting what they asked for. They called them an occupying force during the riots and now they are crying for a greater police presence. Make up your rabbit-assed minds.

(05-29-2015 03:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 02:30 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 01:46 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I will try to find a transcript of it but a police officer spoke on Hannity saying that he has told his officers to stand down.


"After the protests, it seems like the citizens would appreciate a lack of police presence, and that's exactly what they're getting,"

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/05/26/no...-get-worse

They are still responding to calls, just not out proactively patrolling bad areas. I can't say that I blame them. If anything happens, they know they will have no support.

But then you agree that they are no longer doing something that was part of their job a few months before?

Just "working to the contract". As a supposed teacher I'm sure you've heard of that.

And further, just giving the people what they want. Being public servants, they are serving their public. I'd think the folks see this as a win-win, correct?

Arrests plunging? It's about time they stopped harassing those innocent black youths.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/marylan...story.html

Quote:Baltimore broke 100 shootings this month with two overnight incidents.

The 100th shooting this month in Baltimore occurred just after 3 a.m. Saturday, police said. A woman was found shot in the leg in the 2900 block of West Lanvale Street in the Franklintown Road neighborhood of southwest Baltimore, police said.

The 101st was reported around 6:45 a.m. in the 1700 block of E. 30th Street in the Coldstream-Homestead-Montebello neighborhood. Police said a 16-year-old girl had a graze wound to her back.

There have been 39 homicides in the city in May, the most recent reported Friday evening when a Baltimore Police marine unit found a woman's body in the water under the Interstate 395 overpass.

But remember......#blacklivesmatter *









*But not when it's blacks killing blacks because leftists can't get political capital from that.

How do you know if a cop is doing his job of nobody gets pulled or arrested?

(05-30-2015 01:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/marylan...story.html

Quote:Baltimore broke 100 shootings this month with two overnight incidents.

The 100th shooting this month in Baltimore occurred just after 3 a.m. Saturday, police said. A woman was found shot in the leg in the 2900 block of West Lanvale Street in the Franklintown Road neighborhood of southwest Baltimore, police said.

The 101st was reported around 6:45 a.m. in the 1700 block of E. 30th Street in the Coldstream-Homestead-Montebello neighborhood. Police said a 16-year-old girl had a graze wound to her back.

There have been 39 homicides in the city in May, the most recent reported Friday evening when a Baltimore Police marine unit found a woman's body in the water under the Interstate 395 overpass.

But remember......#blacklivesmatter *









*But not when it's blacks killing blacks because leftists can't get political capital from that.

Maybe it's just the coincidence of increased attention and reporting, and this recent surge in shootings and murders, but a surprising % of these reports involve female victims or targets. I don't know how that "normally" breaks down, but the last half dozen or more reports have all been girls or women.

Is this the real #waronwomyns?

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/marylan...story.html

Quote:With three men killed in eastside shootings on Sunday, Baltimore recorded its deadliest month in more than 40 years.

The 43 killings in May surpassed the 42 homicides the city saw in August 1990, and left Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake defending police and her administration.

Speaking at a morning ceremony to honor McKenzie Elliott, the 3-year-old killed by a stray bullet in August, Rawlings-Blake said it's time to stop finger-pointing and assigning blame for the recent violence.

The killing of African-Americans in Baltimore has to stop, she said, noting that 189 of the 208 killed last year were black men. For the city to improve, all homicides need to drop, she added.

"We have to do better," the mayor said. "We have to want more."

Quote:Sunday's homicides — which brought the total for 2015 to 116 — came amid a continuing spike in shootings.

Hours before and just a block away from the double shooting on Collington Avenue, police found a man suffering from gunshot wounds in the 2000 block of N. Washington St. The man was transported to an area hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

Police did not immediately say if the South Clifton Park shootings were related.

With Sunday's shootings, police are investigating 108 nonfatal shootings in May.

Quote:Baltimore has recorded more homicides in a single month: There were 44 in December 1971 and 45 in August 1972.

But in that era, the city had approximately 908,000 residents — nearly 300,000 more than today.

Maybe the leftist rioters were saying hands up/don't shoot to the wrong people.

(06-01-2015 06:46 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/marylan...story.html

Quote:With three men killed in eastside shootings on Sunday, Baltimore recorded its deadliest month in more than 40 years.

The 43 killings in May surpassed the 42 homicides the city saw in August 1990, and left Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake defending police and her administration.

Speaking at a morning ceremony to honor McKenzie Elliott, the 3-year-old killed by a stray bullet in August, Rawlings-Blake said it's time to stop finger-pointing and assigning blame for the recent violence.

The killing of African-Americans in Baltimore has to stop, she said, noting that 189 of the 208 killed last year were black men. For the city to improve, all homicides need to drop, she added.

"We have to do better," the mayor said. "We have to want more."

Quote:Sunday's homicides — which brought the total for 2015 to 116 — came amid a continuing spike in shootings.

Hours before and just a block away from the double shooting on Collington Avenue, police found a man suffering from gunshot wounds in the 2000 block of N. Washington St. The man was transported to an area hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

Police did not immediately say if the South Clifton Park shootings were related.

With Sunday's shootings, police are investigating 108 nonfatal shootings in May.

Quote:Baltimore has recorded more homicides in a single month: There were 44 in December 1971 and 45 in August 1972.

But in that era, the city had approximately 908,000 residents — nearly 300,000 more than today.

Maybe the leftist rioters were saying hands up/don't shoot to the wrong people.

I thought liberals were pacifist?

(06-01-2015 09:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 06:46 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/marylan...story.html

Quote:With three men killed in eastside shootings on Sunday, Baltimore recorded its deadliest month in more than 40 years.

The 43 killings in May surpassed the 42 homicides the city saw in August 1990, and left Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake defending police and her administration.

Speaking at a morning ceremony to honor McKenzie Elliott, the 3-year-old killed by a stray bullet in August, Rawlings-Blake said it's time to stop finger-pointing and assigning blame for the recent violence.

The killing of African-Americans in Baltimore has to stop, she said, noting that 189 of the 208 killed last year were black men. For the city to improve, all homicides need to drop, she added.

"We have to do better," the mayor said. "We have to want more."

Quote:Sunday's homicides — which brought the total for 2015 to 116 — came amid a continuing spike in shootings.

Hours before and just a block away from the double shooting on Collington Avenue, police found a man suffering from gunshot wounds in the 2000 block of N. Washington St. The man was transported to an area hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

Police did not immediately say if the South Clifton Park shootings were related.

With Sunday's shootings, police are investigating 108 nonfatal shootings in May.

Quote:Baltimore has recorded more homicides in a single month: There were 44 in December 1971 and 45 in August 1972.

But in that era, the city had approximately 908,000 residents — nearly 300,000 more than today.

Maybe the leftist rioters were saying hands up/don't shoot to the wrong people.

I thought liberals were pacifist?

That's what they say, but like everything else they say it's not true.

That liberal leadership is flat out causing Baltimore to be the crime ridden cesspool of a city it is now. That Mayor wanted to give the thugs space to destroy, well now they feel imboldened to just rob, rape and kill. Of course Obama, Al and the idiot people running that city will blame the police and Republicans. It is what they do. Being a leftist means never having to take credit as being a failure of leadership. Got to always blame someone else.

(06-01-2015 06:46 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/marylan...story.html

Quote:With three men killed in eastside shootings on Sunday, Baltimore recorded its deadliest month in more than 40 years.

The 43 killings in May surpassed the 42 homicides the city saw in August 1990, and left Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake defending police and her administration.

Speaking at a morning ceremony to honor McKenzie Elliott, the 3-year-old killed by a stray bullet in August, Rawlings-Blake said it's time to stop finger-pointing and assigning blame for the recent violence.

The killing of African-Americans in Baltimore has to stop, she said, noting that 189 of the 208 killed last year were black men. For the city to improve, all homicides need to drop, she added.

"We have to do better," the mayor said. "We have to want more."

Quote:Sunday's homicides — which brought the total for 2015 to 116 — came amid a continuing spike in shootings.

Hours before and just a block away from the double shooting on Collington Avenue, police found a man suffering from gunshot wounds in the 2000 block of N. Washington St. The man was transported to an area hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

Police did not immediately say if the South Clifton Park shootings were related.

With Sunday's shootings, police are investigating 108 nonfatal shootings in May.

Quote:Baltimore has recorded more homicides in a single month: There were 44 in December 1971 and 45 in August 1972.

But in that era, the city had approximately 908,000 residents — nearly 300,000 more than today.

Maybe the leftist rioters were saying hands up/don't shoot to the wrong people.

Damn right they spoke to the wrong people.

Regarding the mayor's comment, that sounds like code to encourage the thugs to go murder more white folks. You know, even up dem statistics.

That dumb@ss mayor is a loser that can't deal with the crisis she helped create with her idiotic "space to destroy" mandate.

Reap the whirlwind, LOSER. Keep burying the innocent while the police continue to do just THEIR JOB....and that's all. Nothing extra, as per the citizenry's express wishes portrayed during the riots.

#blacklivesmatteronlyifkilledbywhitepolice

Baltimore's Deadly May

Finally, the Baltimore Sun says isn't it time to start pointing fingers at the city's leadership.

Quote:Baltimore just endured what appears to be its highest homicide rate for a single month since it started keeping track of killings. The 43 murders in May were the most of any month since 1972, and on a per capita basis they outstrip that grim record by far. Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake took note of the killings Sunday at a ceremony to honor McKenzie Elliot, a 3-year-old who was killed by a stray bullet in broad daylight and whose murder remains unsolved 10 months later. She said it's not the time to point fingers or assign blame. "We have to do better," she said. "We have to want more."

We will grant that a single month can be a statistical blip and that there is only so much the mayor and police department can do to stop individuals bent on killing one another. But we don't think it is at all unreasonable to start asking questions about leadership in a city that, over the last month, was less safe by some measures than it has been at any point in recorded history.

Much attention has been paid to whether the police are failing to do their jobs in the best way possible, either because they are afraid they will be prosecuted if they make a mistake or because residents in some inner city neighborhoods are actively obstructing their work. Either or both could be a factor — arrests were down sharply last month — but blaming them for the record pace of killings presumes that bad actors are roaming the streets at all times seeking to do harm only to be dissuaded by the presence of the police. We rather doubt that.

A much more compelling theory that has been gaining currency recently is that last month's riots disrupted the economics of Baltimore's drug trade. Pharmacy owners say looters hauled away huge quantities of narcotics during the raids, drugs that have substantial street value. Del. Dan K. Morhaim wrote about the issue on The Sun's op-ed page recently and noted similar thefts and a similar rise in violence in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. "Sadly, every city and region has well-established lines of distribution of illegal drugs and narcotics," Dr. Morhaim, an emergency room physician, wrote. "When those distribution lines are disrupted — in our case by the Baltimore riots — drug distribution chaos ensues."

Economics tells us that a flood of drugs into the market would wreak havoc with prices and that existing players would seek to protect their businesses from new competition. But whether enough drugs were stolen to substantially affect Baltimore's drug trade is impossible to know; pharmacy owners say they have yet to be interviewed and surveillance video from their stores is yet to be reviewed by the authorities. Both Baltimore Police and the federal Drug Enforcement Agency are investigating, but no comprehensive tally of what was stolen has yet been made.

Compounding matters, Operation Ceasefire, one of the city's most potentially effective tools to learn what's going on in the streets and to intervene before disputes turn violent, has been hamstrung by disagreements with City Hall. Ceasefire's executive director LeVar Michael, resigned a month before the riots out of protest for what he saw as a failure by the Rawlings-Blake administration to follow through on its promises of funding and resources for the program. Essentially, he argued that Ceasefire is supposed to offer carrots and sticks to get potentially violent criminals to change their ways, but Baltimore was offering only sticks. Others, including the intellectual father of Ceasefire, criminologist David M. Kennedy, whose organization has received all of the $415,000 Baltimore budgeted for the program, insists resources aren't the issue. Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health gun policy expert Daniel Webster, who has studied Ceasefire here and elsewhere, sides with Mr. Michael.

Whoever is right, the fact of the matter is that Mr. Michael, the Rawlings-Blake administration and the police department weren't on the same page from the beginning. The organization had no leadership at all during the protests and riots after Freddie Gray's death, and it only got a new executive director last week, after Baltimore had already seen a sustained spike in homicides. That Mr. Michael's resignation was one of four departures of criminal justice staffers in the Rawlings-Blake administration during the last few weeks raises alarming questions about whether there is any real direction at all from the mayor's office when it comes to fighting crime.

On Monday, Mayor Rawlings-Blake insisted that the city was making progress before last month and expressed confidence in her administration's crime fighting strategies. She pointed to the success of the Safe Streets program in all but eliminating gun violence in the areas where it operates. Indeed, it has been effective, but it covers only a tiny portion of the city, and the mayor's validation of the program wasn't accompanied by any commitment to expand it.

In recent years, when crime has spiked, mayors have been able to note that however bad things might have been, they weren't as bad as the bad old days of the 1990s or 1970s. That is no longer true. If that doesn't make this a time to point fingers and ask questions about the city's leadership and ability to respond to a challenge, we don't know what would be.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion...story.html