Let the great tier 3 debates begin

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Couple of items as Big 12 meetings begin this week: Commissioner Bob Bowlsby expects per school distributions at $24.5M to $26.5M on Friday.

what is there to debate

PAC 12 has been about $1 million (excluding the cost to buy back 3rd tier rights)

Big 10 does not exactly have 3rd tier they have the BTN that is second and 3rd tier and was about 7.6 million last time

ACC has none

SEC had some with Florida being the highest in the past, but there is no telling what the REAL SECn numbers will be until they come out

Big 12 is from 3 to 11.5 million per year

MAC: Minimal.

Big 12 numbers are still dicey. You still can't pull out just the tv portion. The closest I've found includes radio and internet.

Broadcast, Television, Radio and Internet Rights

1. Kansas: $6,855,577

2. Oklahoma: $5,227,250

3. Oklahoma State: $4,795,000

4. Kansas State: $3,870,500

5. Iowa State: $3,691,350

6. West Virginia: $900,723

7. Texas: $26,422

8. Texas Tech: $0

Usually they like to include things like signage, concessions, etc like everybody else gets.

http://www.chicagofootball.com/2015/03/3...e/afyao2c/

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Athletic department profit (revenue minus expenses):

1. Oklahoma: $12,679,916

2. Kansas State: $10,358,438

3. Oklahoma State: $8,155,302

4. Kansas: $7,624,555

5. Texas Tech: $7,063,805

6. Iowa State: $202,669

7. (tie) Baylor, Texas Christian: $0

9. West Virginia: (–)$1,411,154

10. Texas: (–)$2,815,409

Football team profit (revenue minus expenses):

1. Texas: $77,623,125

2. Oklahoma: $41,429,287

3. Kansas State: $27,866,228

4. Oklahoma State: $26,407,159

5. Texas Tech: $20,571,515

6. Iowa State: $16,506,996

7. Kansas: $8,333,128

8. Texas Christian: $5,796,708

9. Baylor: $3,742,862

10. West Virginia: $975,841

Men's basketball profit (revenue minus expenses):

1. Kansas: $9,774,642

2. Texas: $5,997,107

3. Kansas State: $5,502,528

4. Iowa State: $3,517,857

5. Oklahoma: $1,419,044

6. Texas Tech: $834,569

7. (tie) Baylor, Texas Christian: $0

9. Oklahoma State: (–) $133,979

10. West Virginia: (–)3,285,749

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Athletic department total operating revenue

1. Texas: $161,035,187

2. Oklahoma: $129,226,692

3. Oklahoma State: $117,803,302

4. Kansas: $97,681,066

5. Baylor: $86,929,398

6. West Virginia: $77,626,819

7. Texas Christian: $77,068,398

8. Kansas State: $72,935,044

9. Iowa State: $68,170,381

10. Texas Tech: $76,723,413

​NCAA/conference distributions (bowl, tournament, conference TV, etc.)

1. Oklahoma: $25,954,416

2. Kansas State: $24,714,979

3. Iowa State: $24,376,696

4. Oklahoma State: $23,915,687

5. Texas: $23,914,929

6. Texas Tech: $23,174,383

7. Kansas: $22,369,558

8. West Virginia: $15,431,824

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(05-26-2015 10:28 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote:  Athletic department profit (revenue minus expenses):

9. West Virginia: (–)$1,411,154

Football team profit (revenue minus expenses):

10. West Virginia: $975,841

Men's basketball profit (revenue minus expenses):

10. West Virginia: (–)3,285,749

Something isn't right there. After auditing twice, WVU's athletic department showed a profit of $1,008,568 for 2014, which is $2.4 million more than you're showing.

http://www.wvgazette.com/article/2015050.../150509233

It makes me wonder what other figures aren't correct in your post.

I didn't write the article. I provided a link. It seems a little bit "less defensive" than the article you posted.

From the Gazette article you posted, their numbers are on point with the article I posted

"Just based on revenue generated by — and expenses incurred by — specific sports, West Virginia’s football program made just under $1 million. Men’s basketball lost almost $3.3 million." -




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Once again I'll post the link, they seem like they did a thorough job and not motivated by trying to make west Virginia look bad.

http://www.chicagofootball.com/2015/03/3...e/afyao2c/

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(05-27-2015 03:46 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-26-2015 10:28 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote:  Athletic department profit (revenue minus expenses):

9. West Virginia: (–)$1,411,154

Football team profit (revenue minus expenses):

10. West Virginia: $975,841

Men's basketball profit (revenue minus expenses):

10. West Virginia: (–)3,285,749

Something isn't right there. After auditing twice, WVU's athletic department showed a profit of $1,008,568 for 2014, which is $2.4 million more than you're showing.

http://www.wvgazette.com/article/2015050.../150509233

It makes me wonder what other figures aren't correct in your post.

Based on the much lower conference/NCAA distributions, I'm guessing WVU is still in a phase in to full conference revenues.

(05-27-2015 04:20 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 03:46 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-26-2015 10:28 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote:  Athletic department profit (revenue minus expenses):

9. West Virginia: (–)$1,411,154

Football team profit (revenue minus expenses):

10. West Virginia: $975,841

Men's basketball profit (revenue minus expenses):

10. West Virginia: (–)3,285,749

Something isn't right there. After auditing twice, WVU's athletic department showed a profit of $1,008,568 for 2014, which is $2.4 million more than you're showing.

http://www.wvgazette.com/article/2015050.../150509233

It makes me wonder what other figures aren't correct in your post.

Based on the much lower conference/NCAA distributions, I'm guessing WVU is still in a phase in to full conference revenues.

It's 85% this season. Next season starts the full payout.

And right on cue on the Big 12 discussion board on west Virginia's scout site, it's being discussed because the SEC announced their conference revenue disbursements today.

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(05-29-2015 01:58 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote:  And right on cue on the Big 12 discussion board on west Virginia's scout site, it's being discussed because the SEC announced their conference revenue disbursements today.

You should see the discussions on FSU's board.

(05-29-2015 02:41 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 01:58 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote:  And right on cue on the Big 12 discussion board on west Virginia's scout site, it's being discussed because the SEC announced their conference revenue disbursements today.

You should see the discussions on FSU's board.

yeah I can just imagine.