Quote:A coalition of more than 60 Chinese, Indian, Korean and Pakistani organizations is asking the U.S. departments of Justice and Education to investigate possible racial bias in undergraduate admissions at Harvard.

Quote: A 2009 paper by Princeton sociologists Thomas J. Espenshade and Alexandria Walton Radford found that “Asian-Americans have the lowest acceptance rate for each SAT test score bracket, having to score on average approximately 140 points higher than a white student, 270 points higher than a Hispanic student and 450 points higher than a black student on the SAT to be on equal footing.”

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The US a has a long history of discrimination when it comes to Asians.

When the Chinese were used to build the transcontinental railroad, they were little more than slaves. (I can hear the lib heads exploding: "How dare you compare Chinese laborers to slaves.")

FDR interned native born and naturalized Japanese-American citizens after Pearl Harbor. (FDR interned German nationals but no native born or naturalized German-Americans.)

Asians are an easy target.

Asians have overcome and don't constantly ***** about life. Not that any of that justifies the discrimination they've endured for many decades.

(05-20-2015 09:18 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

Quote:A coalition of more than 60 Chinese, Indian, Korean and Pakistani organizations is asking the U.S. departments of Justice and Education to investigate possible racial bias in undergraduate admissions at Harvard.

Quote: A 2009 paper by Princeton sociologists Thomas J. Espenshade and Alexandria Walton Radford found that “Asian-Americans have the lowest acceptance rate for each SAT test score bracket, having to score on average approximately 140 points higher than a white student, 270 points higher than a Hispanic student and 450 points higher than a black student on the SAT to be on equal footing.”

Link

The US a has a long history of discrimination when it comes to Asians.

When the Chinese were used to build the transcontinental railroad, they were little more than slaves. (I can hear the lib heads exploding: "How dare you compare Chinese laborers to slaves.")

FDR interned native born and naturalized Japanese-American citizens after Pearl Harbor. (FDR interned German nationals but no native born or naturalized German-Americans.)

Asians are an easy target.

Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here, this is a guy... he peed on my rug!

Are the SAT differences THAT bad?!?!?

I hope that the Asian community realizes that they are jabbing a stick into a hornet's nest. This won't end well at all - and the worst part about it is that the Asian community actually has valid statistics behind their case.

Ugh.

Aren't they happy to be here?

FDR...the liberal hero.....racist as hell, condemned minorities to internment camps.

(05-20-2015 09:35 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Aren't they happy to be here?

I have to remember that you're a very tongue-in-cheek type of poster. Once I put your post into perspective, it gave me a laugh.

We shed no tears for Asians with perfect SAT scores. Discrimination against them is acceptable.

That's sad.

(05-21-2015 06:34 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  We shed no tears for Asians with perfect SAT scores. Discrimination against them is acceptable.

That's sad.

But they don't live in Asia. Glass half full.

(05-21-2015 06:34 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  We shed no tears for Asians with perfect SAT scores. Discrimination against them is acceptable.

That's sad.

Depends what part of Asia. If the name on the application is Mohammed Al Hussein, he gets in. If it is Chien Fang or Sucharet Joshi... rejected. If it is Abraham Goldstein... nevermind, dad donates enough money and maybe owns a building. He's in too.

THIS is the model of self determination and self reliance. Is it skewed a little by the total population of each group? Probably, but still an impressive number.

Welfare Statistics

Quote:Welfare Demographics

Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %

Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %

Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %

Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %

Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %

(05-21-2015 08:11 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-21-2015 06:34 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  We shed no tears for Asians with perfect SAT scores. Discrimination against them is acceptable.

That's sad.

Depends what part of Asia. If the name on the application is Mohammed Al Hussein, he gets in. If it is Chien Fang or Sucharet Joshi... rejected. If it is Abraham Goldstein... nevermind, dad donates enough money and maybe owns a building. He's in too.

I guess you're being tongue-in-cheek, but you leave out a crucial bit of information, which I believe a lot of people don't consider: That person who got in, did pretty darn good too. They aren't just letting people in to let them in, they also had great grades and great SATs.

Now part of what you say is correct, Hmong's and other SE Asians get preferential admissions.

(05-20-2015 09:26 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Asians have overcome and don't constantly ***** about life. Not that any of that justifies the discrimination they've endured for many decades.

You mean Japanese, Chinese, and Koreans

(05-20-2015 09:35 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  FDR...the liberal hero.....racist as hell, condemned minorities to internment camps.

Well, he did like to vacation in Jawjah (and I'm from there, so I can say that--you can't!)

(05-21-2015 08:47 AM)VA49er Wrote:  THIS is the model of self determination and self reliance. Is it skewed a little by the total population of each group? Probably, but still an impressive number.

Welfare Statistics

Quote:Welfare Demographics

Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %

Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %

Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %

Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %

Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %

Thanks for posting that one, VA. That says a heck of a lot about success and self-determination. I drive though a couple of ethnically asian areas around atlanta, and I have to say in addition to all the shops with various signs in different asian languages, they have a heck of a lot of their own community banks. They appear to build up and reinvest in their own communities more than others. Many of them start with next to nothing. And no welfare, too. Gee, how do they do it without the gub'ment?

(05-21-2015 08:47 AM)VA49er Wrote:  THIS is the model of self determination and self reliance. Is it skewed a little by the total population of each group? Probably, but still an impressive number.

Welfare Statistics

Quote:Welfare Demographics

Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %

Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %

Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %

Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %

Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %

Well, that can be adjusted for.

According to wiki - take it for what it is worth

64% of the US is non-Hispanic white
17% is Hispanic or Latino
12% is Non-Hispanic black or African American
4.7% is Asian.
3% are 'other'

In a perfect world, those percentages would generally match. Hispanics and 'other' are pretty close.

(05-21-2015 05:06 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(05-21-2015 08:47 AM)VA49er Wrote:  THIS is the model of self determination and self reliance. Is it skewed a little by the total population of each group? Probably, but still an impressive number.

Welfare Statistics

Quote:Welfare Demographics

Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %

Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %

Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %

Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %

Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %

Thanks for posting that one, VA. That says a heck of a lot about success and self-determination. I drive though a couple of ethnically asian areas around atlanta, and I have to say in addition to all the shops with various signs in different asian languages, they have a heck of a lot of their own community banks. They appear to build up and reinvest in their own communities more than others. Many of them start with next to nothing. And no welfare, too. Gee, how do they do it without the gub'ment?

It's not as much about success and self-determination as it is about not trusting anyone who isn't your type.

In fact, if it were black people doing this, we'd hear "If it were white people doing this the media would go nuts".

(05-21-2015 05:35 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-21-2015 05:06 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(05-21-2015 08:47 AM)VA49er Wrote:  THIS is the model of self determination and self reliance. Is it skewed a little by the total population of each group? Probably, but still an impressive number.

Welfare Statistics

Quote:Welfare Demographics

Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %

Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %

Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %

Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %

Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %

Thanks for posting that one, VA. That says a heck of a lot about success and self-determination. I drive though a couple of ethnically asian areas around atlanta, and I have to say in addition to all the shops with various signs in different asian languages, they have a heck of a lot of their own community banks. They appear to build up and reinvest in their own communities more than others. Many of them start with next to nothing. And no welfare, too. Gee, how do they do it without the gub'ment?

It's not as much about success and self-determination as it is about not trusting anyone who isn't your type.

In fact, if it were black people doing this, we'd hear "If it were white people doing this the media would go nuts".

There are a couple of black-owned banks around atlanta, but not nearly as concentrated in number or involvement in their communities as in the asian community. I'd have no problem with more black banks starting up and investing in their communities to help them lift up and grow as in some of the asian communities. I wouldn't really care if it was because of as you say "not trusting anyone who isn't your type." It would be something that would help the community do better, and that would be enough for me. So, no, if I were white, I wouldn't go nuts other than to stand up and cheer my support for more of what helps people without the government involved.

Wait, a minority group wants college admissions to be strictly merit based.



That's a problem for liberals.

(05-21-2015 06:37 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Wait, a minority group wants college admissions to be strictly merit based.



That's a problem for liberals.

Merit based is archaic.

We need to have the same proportion of each cultural group in college that we have in the general population, regardless of all other variables.