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RE: If reinstated, would UAB Football have to play two years in FCS first?
Bill Clark has said it himself, there's no way to play D-I in 2015 at this point. It doesn't mean that he can't assemble a recruiting staff... imagine being a coach and recruiting while not worrying about preparing for a game... with Clark's work ethic, we would have a great foundation built.
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RE: If reinstated, would UAB Football have to play two years in FCS first?
How about this the Revenge of Ray watts, he brings UAB football back but signs a 5 year deal with the hoover met. I believe their Sec baseball contract is about up.
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RE: If reinstated, would UAB Football have to play two years in FCS first?
The way things are going, within five to ten years, non power 5 football programs will be closer to FCS than to Power 5 programs. The gap between non power 5 and power 5 is widening and the gap between FCS and Non power 5 is narrowing.
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RE: If reinstated, would UAB Football have to play two years in FCS first?
(05-20-2015 04:12 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  The way things are going, within five to ten years, non power 5 football programs will be closer to FCS than to Power 5 programs. The gap between non power 5 and power 5 is widening and the gap between FCS and Non power 5 is narrowing.

There is also the growing gap WITHIN the P5 conferences between the top income programs ($100,000,000 and up) and their poor relations who lack that funding. Not every P5 school can spend the almost $200,000 annually per athlete to keep up with the Bama, Texas and Oregon.

Will the next round of realignment perhaps be among the top money schools of the P5 conferences in that "Super Conference" we hear about?
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RE: If reinstated, would UAB Football have to play two years in FCS first?
(05-20-2015 05:37 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(05-20-2015 04:12 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  The way things are going, within five to ten years, non power 5 football programs will be closer to FCS than to Power 5 programs. The gap between non power 5 and power 5 is widening and the gap between FCS and Non power 5 is narrowing.

There is also the growing gap WITHIN the P5 conferences between the top income programs ($100,000,000 and up) and their poor relations who lack that funding. Not every P5 school can spend the almost $200,000 annually per athlete to keep up with the Bama, Texas and Oregon.

Will the next round of realignment perhaps be among the top money schools of the P5 conferences in that "Super Conference" we hear about?
If I understand the finances of the UA System, will Bama be able to keep up with big money states like Texas and Florida? I could certainly see Ole Miss (which like UAT has been accellerating out-of-state enrollment) and Mississippi State struggling to keep up with Bama because I don't see them quite as willing to rack up the debt.
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RE: If reinstated, would UAB Football have to play two years in FCS first?
(05-20-2015 05:37 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(05-20-2015 04:12 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  The way things are going, within five to ten years, non power 5 football programs will be closer to FCS than to Power 5 programs. The gap between non power 5 and power 5 is widening and the gap between FCS and Non power 5 is narrowing.

There is also the growing gap WITHIN the P5 conferences between the top income programs ($100,000,000 and up) and their poor relations who lack that funding. Not every P5 school can spend the almost $200,000 annually per athlete to keep up with the Bama, Texas and Oregon.

Will the next round of realignment perhaps be among the top money schools of the P5 conferences in that "Super Conference" we hear about?

There is still a widening gap between FCS and G5, especially with TV contracts ever increasing and the new playoff system revenue. G5 schools seem to be getting paid more for buy games, on average.

But Watts has his trump card, which is that UAB can't financially afford to field a national championship contender in football. But football money could push UAB basketball into the top 25 of all NCAA basketball budgets and place us in the same breath as Gonzaga, Villanova, and Wichita St... which sounds good in theory, but the BOT doesn't like us using institutional funds for athletics. Something will give.
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RE: If reinstated, would UAB Football have to play two years in FCS first?
(05-20-2015 05:48 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  
(05-20-2015 05:37 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(05-20-2015 04:12 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  The way things are going, within five to ten years, non power 5 football programs will be closer to FCS than to Power 5 programs. The gap between non power 5 and power 5 is widening and the gap between FCS and Non power 5 is narrowing.

There is also the growing gap WITHIN the P5 conferences between the top income programs ($100,000,000 and up) and their poor relations who lack that funding. Not every P5 school can spend the almost $200,000 annually per athlete to keep up with the Bama, Texas and Oregon.

Will the next round of realignment perhaps be among the top money schools of the P5 conferences in that "Super Conference" we hear about?
If I understand the finances of the UA System, will Bama be able to keep up with big money states like Texas and Florida? I could certainly see Ole Miss (which like UAT has been accellerating out-of-state enrollment) and Mississippi State struggling to keep up with Bama because I don't see them quite as willing to rack up the debt.

The playoff money and SEC network money will balance out the difference as far as conferences go.
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RE: If reinstated, would UAB Football have to play two years in FCS first?
(05-20-2015 10:47 AM)bluesox Wrote:  How about this the Revenge of Ray watts, he brings UAB football back but signs a 5 year deal with the hoover met. I believe their Sec baseball contract is about up.

As much as the BOT would probably find that hilarious, it is also impractical. It seats less than 20K, which would mean lots of people on average wouldn't be able to attend. But that's what Bama fans go through, you say? So what.
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RE: If reinstated, would UAB Football have to play two years in FCS first?
(05-20-2015 06:03 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(05-20-2015 05:48 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  
(05-20-2015 05:37 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(05-20-2015 04:12 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  The way things are going, within five to ten years, non power 5 football programs will be closer to FCS than to Power 5 programs. The gap between non power 5 and power 5 is widening and the gap between FCS and Non power 5 is narrowing.

There is also the growing gap WITHIN the P5 conferences between the top income programs ($100,000,000 and up) and their poor relations who lack that funding. Not every P5 school can spend the almost $200,000 annually per athlete to keep up with the Bama, Texas and Oregon.

Will the next round of realignment perhaps be among the top money schools of the P5 conferences in that "Super Conference" we hear about?
If I understand the finances of the UA System, will Bama be able to keep up with big money states like Texas and Florida? I could certainly see Ole Miss (which like UAT has been accellerating out-of-state enrollment) and Mississippi State struggling to keep up with Bama because I don't see them quite as willing to rack up the debt.

The playoff money and SEC network money will balance out the difference as far as conferences go.

A couple of years ago, FORBES magazine listed the TOP 10 endowment universities in America. The only public schools on that list were Texas and Texas A&M. They probably have no financial worries about their futures.

I don't know the intricacies of Ole Miss or Florida, but articles in the B'ham NEWS about Bama stated that the Athletic Department there receives about $151 million per year in donations and SEC revenues to support its sports programs. Whatever they can't find a way to spend (on salaries, facilities, waterfalls, ceramic elephants, etc.) they turn over to the UA General Scholarship Fund, NOT the general UA administration. What are the chances the "Costs of Attendance" funds will come out of these "left overs"?

Whether this is a lot or a little was not made known, but the school's GSF gets only what is left over. Bama's academic side operates - like UAB's - primarily on SETF funding and tuition / fees income and whatever grants it can gather. That is why the BOT has increased tuition by almost 50% since 2008.
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RE: If reinstated, would UAB Football have to play two years in FCS first?
Wasn't they a table that showed that Playoff era, despite just being started, has and will continue to be better to the non power conferences than the BCS era? Wouldn't that, in combination with the revenue stream actually going down since FCS teams probably won't be able to get nearly as many buy games in the future, actually produce a bigger gap between the non power conferences and the FCS division?

Also, the cost of attendance may throw another loop into things in the immediate future.
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RE: If reinstated, would UAB Football have to play two years in FCS first?
Jack Williams said something interesting on JOX. He said we could sign a class of JUCO players this coming December as our 2015 class that we missed. Then, we could sign 25 more players in Feb. of 2016. Add in the 20-30 guys who are still on campus, and we'd have a moderate squad of 70-80 guys to start with in 2016.

I also would note that we'd have few if any seniors.

We just need to keep calling and emailing trustees and VPs for help! We need Watts to really feel the pressure to do what is right!
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