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Stetson might prove some folks wrong this year.
I'm one of those who believe Stetson can be a good scorer for us. RBL has told us he saw him working on his outside shooting earlier this year. The kid was a prolific scorer in high school, and all those points weren't on dunks. I believe, given the chance, he'll come into his own this season and reach his potential as both a defensive player and a scorer.04-cheers
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Stetson might prove some folks wrong this year.
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(05-17-2015 11:30 AM)outsideualr Wrote:  I'm one of those who believe Stetson can be a good scorer for us. RBL has told us he saw him working on his outside shooting earlier this year. The kid was a prolific scorer in high school, and all those points weren't on dunks. I believe, given the chance, he'll come into his own this season and reach his potential as both a defensive player and a scorer.04-cheers

I'm one of them he'll have to prove wrong. Don't see him ever being a scorer at this level.
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I knew this would get some responses. You guys might be right. But maybe I will be. We'll have to wait and see.
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(05-17-2015 03:28 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  I knew this would get some responses. You guys might be right. But maybe I will be. We'll have to wait and see.

He was a hell of a scorer in high school, and that was in one of the lower classifications. If he could score here, he would have done it by now. That's what they mean when they say "separating the men from the boys." Better competition sometimes will separates the scorers from the non-scorers.
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(05-17-2015 09:49 PM)LRTrojan Wrote:  
(05-17-2015 03:28 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  I knew this would get some responses. You guys might be right. But maybe I will be. We'll have to wait and see.

He as a hell of a scorer in high school, and that was in one of the lower classifications. If he could score here, he would have done it by now. That's what they mean when they say "separating the men from the boys." Better competition sometimes will separates the scorers from the non-scorers.

I don't see Stetson ever being a star player at UALR. He is a great kid, who works his butt off and does everything he is asked. So I am hopeful he can be a role player who gets some minutes for us the next 2 years as a redshirt junior and senior. He can be a role model for younger players of how hard work and dedication can result in getting some minutes on the court.
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(05-17-2015 09:55 PM)mjs Wrote:  I don't see Stetson ever being a star player at UALR. He is a great kid, who works his butt off and does everything he is asked. So I am hopeful he can be a role player who gets some minutes for us the next 2 years as a redshirt junior and senior. He can be a role model for younger players of how hard work and dedication can result in getting some minutes on the court.

I agree with all of what you've said. I hope he does become a star, because from everything I've heard, he's a great kid, and I'd also like to see him succeed because he's an Arkansas kid.
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I don't know that he'll be a star, but I think he has a lot more to offer than he's been allowed to show. The way Joe Kleine described him, he'll work like heck to do the things you ask him to do. Joe said he was his favorite player ever. Pretty good recommendations. With a new coach, he'll have every opportunity to show what he can do to win playing time. We'll just have to wait and see how it works out.
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(05-17-2015 11:19 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  I don't know that he'll be a star, but I think he has a lot more to offer than he's been allowed to show. The way Joe Kleine described him, he'll work like heck to do the things you ask him to do. Joe said he was his favorite player ever. Pretty good recommendations. With a new coach, he'll have every opportunity to show what he can do to win playing time. We'll just have to wait and see how it works out.

I was like that too as a kid. I busted my butt to do anything the coaches told me, and while it was enough to play some high school football and basketball, and Legion baseball, and later college baseball, it didn't improve my talent a whole lot. In a lot of ways I was like some of the players we've had here. I didn't improve a lot as I got older. You can just go so far without a lot of talent. Lack of talent is hard to hide as you play better competition.
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If Stetson get playing time, it likely won't be as a ball handler and shooter, but for his defense and rebounding.
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I recall one night he came in, scored five points and a couple of rebounds in about two minutes, and Steve took him out.
I asked Joe Kleine about it later when he spoke to a group I attend. He just looked at me and rolled his eyes and shrugged.
He didn't want to bad mouth Steve, but it was obvious he didn't agree with Steve's policy of taking a player out when he's doing well. At least that was my impression. And we all know, as much as we all like Steve, his substitution patterns were extremely strange to most of us. Especially MJS's wife!
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(05-18-2015 08:35 AM)outsideualr Wrote:  I recall one night he came in, scored five points and a couple of rebounds in about two minutes, and Steve took him out.
I asked Joe Kleine about it later when he spoke to a group I attend. He just looked at me and rolled his eyes and shrugged.
He didn't want to bad mouth Steve, but it was obvious he didn't agree with Steve's policy of taking a player out when he's doing well. At least that was my impression. And we all know, as much as we all like Steve, his substitution patterns were extremely strange to most of us. Especially MJS's wife!

None of us ever made sense of his substitution patterns, although limiting Stetson's minutes was not one I had a big issue with.
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Well he'll be judged differently now with different eyes by a different coach, so maybe he'll still play limited minutes, but if he shows he can perform at a high level, he'll get a chance to play more. There will be no perceptions, one way or the other.
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(05-18-2015 08:35 AM)outsideualr Wrote:  I recall one night he came in, scored five points and a couple of rebounds in about two minutes, and Steve took him out.
I asked Joe Kleine about it later when he spoke to a group I attend. He just looked at me and rolled his eyes and shrugged.
He didn't want to bad mouth Steve, but it was obvious he didn't agree with Steve's policy of taking a player out when he's doing well. At least that was my impression. And we all know, as much as we all like Steve, his substitution patterns were extremely strange to most of us. Especially MJS's wife!

Steve didn't want a guy averaging about five minutes a game out scoring one of his top six players averaging about 30-35 minutes. How many times did one of our players score 30 or more points in a game under Shields? Don't remember too many times one scored 20 or more.
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I can't recall anyone scoring 30. I remember Matt Mouzy scoring 27 or 29 against Oral Roberts one game. That's the highest I can recall anyone scoring in a game. Maybe someone else can remember someone scoring 30 or more.
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Seems like I remember someone scoring in the 30's at least one time. May have come before Shields.
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The last time anyone scored as many as 35 points was Brandon Freeman in 2005.
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(05-18-2015 01:45 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  The last time anyone scored as many as 35 points was Brandon Freeman in 2005.

Thanks Pappy. Great to have you back.
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(05-18-2015 01:45 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  The last time anyone scored as many as 35 points was Brandon Freeman in 2005.


Sure glad Pappy is posting again. I figured that if anyone would have know this, Pappy would. Thanks.
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