(05-21-2015 08:01 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: Let me break this down for you, Ham. 'We' were told the WWE room would be virtually unmoderated, which in the short term was true. Then somebody (I don't know who) started a thread in which the first few pages were people such as myself making sarcastic comments and such. Then a mod (I want to say...Clairton?) went 'full retard' and the thread was derailed. Smash cut to bans being handed out for a thread that originated and 'thrived' in a supposedly unmoderated room, and you can see that when someone like yourself or others tells 'us' to have at it in the WWE room...it rings hollow.
I actually appreciate the even response here. Thank you. I don't go to the WWE, so I have no idea what is said there.
Were the sarcastic comments about the moderators/moderation of this forum? (other than some totally generic sense) If so, then you were likely violating the spin room rules.... even though you weren't doing it in the spin room.
If what you're talking about was 'outing' posters, and such 'outing' was referenced in the spin room, then you likely violated not only the spin room rules, but the AUP of the entire site.... certainly you violated the spirit of it. i.e. if I have a big nose, but have never said anything about it on this forum... but somehow you 'research' me and find out, even if you do it on another site or forum, and then come onto THIS forum and say, 'what's up Horton?' or "want a peanut' or something like that, then you have certainly violated the spirit of an anonymous forum. Now I may or may not care about it... but that still doesn't make it right. Of course, if I talk about it myself, that's 'on me'.
In other words, just because a thread originates and thrives somewhere else doesn't mean that it didn't take place here... and you MAY be referring to bans associated with the entire site, and not merely the forum.
This is not a publicly funded site. It is one that as far as I know has primarily been created, developed and managed by GTS.... with a SMALL amount of help from some posters. MOST on here paid nothing to join and have no stake in its future, so may not care if it turns to crap, but GTS does. As such, he retains the ultimate control, just as any of you would over something you designed and developed yourself. He sometimes selects people to help him protect his 'baby' and those people are humans, capable of mistakes/losing their cool. There is no way to create rules to anticipate every possible situation, nor is there time or funding to have a 'court of appeals'... so as with any friendly association, you have some hard and fast rules that are loosely enforced, and some 'unwritten' rules that are strictly enforced. That's the nature of the beast.
If you (the generic you) don't like what a mod does, then put aside the political posturing and try and have a polite and respectful conversation with them. If they aren't polite in return, then seek out another mod. If that still doesn't work, then find another forum or even another site. but there is NO need to 'urinate on the carpet' as you leave... or to urinate somewhere else (in another forum) and then link the stink back to this site.
It seems a pretty common event as it happened in the event you're describing and I've seen it personally in a few others, is that rather than take the slap on the wrist, whether it be some meaningless points or a 30 day 'ban', SOME have engaged in a scorched-earth policy in response to moderation... and THIS is what has gotten them banned, or gotten them longer bans. In other words, some of YOU have gone 'full ***' as well, and as an unpaid and honestly, completely unappreciated mod, I can tell you my patience has been SEVERELY tested by a few. I'm happy to explain to someone why I gave them 5 points for something that goes away in a week, but I'm not going to spend more than a few minutes doing so. It's 5 points.
I think if you guys will simply relax, things will be fine. Instead, we seem to have this underlying attempt to 'push the envelope' and 'challenge authority', which I generally support, but I also support being polite at the end of the day and considering the gravity of the issue. I'll get into a heated debate, even with friends... but at the end of the day, we're still likely to be friends ... I'll also get into debates with 'enemies' that can easily become friends.
