(05-19-2015 10:11 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 08:07 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 07:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 10:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  You bring up an interesting view, Bull

I wonder if this TV $$$ revenue greedy grab behavior and them calling themselves the so called "p5" is to help bring additional funds to their much needed hungry depleted tiny towns.


I get it now.

That's why we should have focused this conference solely on markets (and ECU). So many more options being in cities.

How's that doing for the ACC and CUSA? You have to expand with product on the field first and foremost. A team can't help where they are placed in regards to population density, but they can help what they put on the field during game day. Continued success brings about passionate alumni who bring about national ratings as they move on to the real world and move away from the college. The TCU/Boise/ECU effect.

The Big 12 could take BYU, Boise, ECU, and Cincy to improve their football 10 fold while also giving Kansas two more top basketball opponents in BYU and Cincy. It's a win/win as it would also be the move that makes Texas go Indy so the Big 12 can then pick UCF and create the Big 12 Network with several east coast states, Florida, and Texas along with the Midwest.


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Calm down. I included ECU. I'm saying that we should have focused on schools in big cities with stadium options that are easy to fly to with other things to do.

My 'Murican conference looks like this. 6 games in division, 2 game against the other division for football. Only 1 cross country trip per year which can be at the beginning of the season.

'Murica East
UConn
Cincinnati
Memphis
ECU
Navy
USF
UCF

'Murica West
Houston
Colorado State
BYU
Air Force
UNLV
Fresno State
San Diego State

I'm aware but I just hate this fascination on markets. SEC has a ton of small markets but every member performs well in at least one of the three seasons (Fall = Football, Winter = Men's and Women's Basketball, Spring = Baseball/Softball).

Those towns have absolutely nothing going on in them. SEC sports is their only opportunity to have something to do.

(05-19-2015 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 08:07 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 07:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 10:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 08:33 PM)Bull Wrote:  Taking money and bowls out of the equation, on a pure fan travel perspective, those B12 destinations are awful. Ames Iowa, Lubbock, Waco, Morgantown, two in Oklahoma... Yeah I know some of them are big time programs, but god awful travel situation for a fan. I'd rather have our cities, more fun to party. B12, you spend a ton of money to travel, zero direct flights, and you see a game. That's it. No Beale street, French Quarter, Beaches, Disney, etc etc.

You bring up an interesting view, Bull

I wonder if this TV $$$ revenue greedy grab behavior and them calling themselves the so called "p5" is to help bring additional funds to their much needed hungry depleted tiny towns.


I get it now.

That's why we should have focused this conference solely on markets (and ECU). So many more options being in cities.

How's that doing for the ACC and CUSA? You have to expand with product on the field first and foremost. A team can't help where they are placed in regards to population density, but they can help what they put on the field during game day. Continued success brings about passionate alumni who bring about national ratings as they move on to the real world and move away from the college. The TCU/Boise/ECU effect.

The Big 12 could take BYU, Boise, ECU, and Cincy to improve their football 10 fold while also giving Kansas two more top basketball opponents in BYU and Cincy. It's a win/win as it would also be the move that makes Texas go Indy so the Big 12 can then pick UCF and create the Big 12 Network with several east coast states, Florida, and Texas along with the Midwest.


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Calm down. I included ECU. I'm saying that we should have focused on schools in big cities with stadium options that are easy to fly to with other things to do.

My 'Murican conference looks like this. 6 games in division, 2 game against the other division for football. Only 1 cross country trip per year which can be at the beginning of the season.

'Murica East
UConn
Cincinnati
Memphis
ECU
Navy
USF
UCF

'Murica West
Houston
Colorado State
BYU
Air Force
UNLV
Fresno State
San Diego State

Finding a spot for our travel SMU/Dallas acquaintances is a must

(05-19-2015 10:56 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 10:11 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 08:07 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 07:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  That's why we should have focused this conference solely on markets (and ECU). So many more options being in cities.

How's that doing for the ACC and CUSA? You have to expand with product on the field first and foremost. A team can't help where they are placed in regards to population density, but they can help what they put on the field during game day. Continued success brings about passionate alumni who bring about national ratings as they move on to the real world and move away from the college. The TCU/Boise/ECU effect.

The Big 12 could take BYU, Boise, ECU, and Cincy to improve their football 10 fold while also giving Kansas two more top basketball opponents in BYU and Cincy. It's a win/win as it would also be the move that makes Texas go Indy so the Big 12 can then pick UCF and create the Big 12 Network with several east coast states, Florida, and Texas along with the Midwest.


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Calm down. I included ECU. I'm saying that we should have focused on schools in big cities with stadium options that are easy to fly to with other things to do.

My 'Murican conference looks like this. 6 games in division, 2 game against the other division for football. Only 1 cross country trip per year which can be at the beginning of the season.

'Murica East
UConn
Cincinnati
Memphis
ECU
Navy
USF
UCF

'Murica West
Houston
Colorado State
BYU
Air Force
UNLV
Fresno State
San Diego State

I'm aware but I just hate this fascination on markets. SEC has a ton of small markets but every member performs well in at least one of the three seasons (Fall = Football, Winter = Men's and Women's Basketball, Spring = Baseball/Softball).

Those towns have absolutely nothing going on in them. SEC sports is their only opportunity to have something to do.

Spot on firmbizzle

(05-19-2015 06:25 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 10:27 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 08:33 PM)Bull Wrote:  Taking money and bowls out of the equation, on a pure fan travel perspective, those B12 destinations are awful. Ames Iowa, Lubbock, Waco, Morgantown, two in Oklahoma... Yeah I know some of them are big time programs, but god awful travel situation for a fan. I'd rather have our cities, more fun to party. B12, you spend a ton of money to travel, zero direct flights, and you see a game. That's it. No Beale street, French Quarter, Beaches, Disney, etc etc.

Exactly.

stone cold truth. i know my little group of friends are already starting to game plan our road trips for this fall and we've already decided that to go to the Kansas game, we are going to have to just stay in KC, then drive over to Lawrence on Saturday. being able to actually STAY IN and enjoy the town your game is in is something i guess we take for granted because this trip will just be a pain in the butt.

Lawrence is a fun town. and KC is only 30 miles away(my daily commute from Downtown Memphis to Collierville is longer than that). Lets not act like you are having to stay hours from KU.

#FirstWorldProblems

(05-19-2015 10:06 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 08:07 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 07:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 10:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 08:33 PM)Bull Wrote:  Taking money and bowls out of the equation, on a pure fan travel perspective, those B12 destinations are awful. Ames Iowa, Lubbock, Waco, Morgantown, two in Oklahoma... Yeah I know some of them are big time programs, but god awful travel situation for a fan. I'd rather have our cities, more fun to party. B12, you spend a ton of money to travel, zero direct flights, and you see a game. That's it. No Beale street, French Quarter, Beaches, Disney, etc etc.

You bring up an interesting view, Bull

I wonder if this TV $$$ revenue greedy grab behavior and them calling themselves the so called "p5" is to help bring additional funds to their much needed hungry depleted tiny towns.


I get it now.

That's why we should have focused this conference solely on markets (and ECU). So many more options being in cities.

How's that doing for the ACC and CUSA? You have to expand with product on the field first and foremost. A team can't help where they are placed in regards to population density, but they can help what they put on the field during game day. Continued success brings about passionate alumni who bring about national ratings as they move on to the real world and move away from the college. The TCU/Boise/ECU effect.

The Big 12 could take BYU, Boise, ECU, and Cincy to improve their football 10 fold while also giving Kansas two more top basketball opponents in BYU and Cincy. It's a win/win as it would also be the move that makes Texas go Indy so the Big 12 can then pick UCF and create the Big 12 Network with several east coast states, Florida, and Texas along with the Midwest.


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Texas is the big block in that Jenga tower. The whole reason ECU and UCF were able to get invited the former BE is cause the B12 didn't collapse. Otherwise, theB12 leftovers would've been invited and we'd still be in cusa. If the B12 hadn't allowed Texas to create the Longhorn network, Texas would've bolted to the Pac12. So it's a catch 22 the network allowed UT to stay but basically alienated everyone else in the conference and hampered the conference revenue in the process.

The plan if texoma left for the PAC was to invite Ucf and merge with the big east according to luck

(05-17-2015 09:36 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  ESPN has the leverage here. Tell Texas they either make it into the Big 12 Network or the channel folds. That's literally the only options they have at this point.


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What contract damages would they owe Texas for this unilateral action?

(05-19-2015 04:22 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 09:36 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  ESPN has the leverage here. Tell Texas they either make it into the Big 12 Network or the channel folds. That's literally the only options they have at this point.


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What contract damages would they owe Texas for this unilateral action?

Probably still a lower amount than what they would lose keeping it on.

(05-19-2015 04:22 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 09:36 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  ESPN has the leverage here. Tell Texas they either make it into the Big 12 Network or the channel folds. That's literally the only options they have at this point.


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What contract damages would they owe Texas for this unilateral action?

My guess would be nothing. If Texas were to move laterally to the PAC and by doing so make a profit, then there would be no damage owed by ESPN. It's all about the Benjamin's.

(05-19-2015 05:36 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 04:22 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 09:36 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  ESPN has the leverage here. Tell Texas they either make it into the Big 12 Network or the channel folds. That's literally the only options they have at this point.


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What contract damages would they owe Texas for this unilateral action?

My guess would be nothing. If Texas were to move laterally to the PAC and by doing so make a profit, then there would be no damage owed by ESPN. It's all about the Benjamin's.

You think that moving to another conference will earn Texas an additional $15 million a year more than the Big 12 TV deal so that it would offset the loss of the LHN?

(05-19-2015 06:22 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 05:36 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 04:22 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 09:36 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  ESPN has the leverage here. Tell Texas they either make it into the Big 12 Network or the channel folds. That's literally the only options they have at this point.


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What contract damages would they owe Texas for this unilateral action?

My guess would be nothing. If Texas were to move laterally to the PAC and by doing so make a profit, then there would be no damage owed by ESPN. It's all about the Benjamin's.

You think that moving to another conference will earn Texas an additional $15 million a year more than the Big 12 TV deal so that it would offset the loss of the LHN?

It's possible but, more likely then not, ESPN would agree to pay any financial short coming as they know the losses would be minimal apposed to the continuation of the LHN. Just a guess.

Lets not forget the boost in advertising that the rest of the PAC would enjoy do to Texas moving in. This would be shared and be quite a bit of cash. Not to mention the PAC network would now see a huge bump in Texas subscribers of which Texas would now get a share.

(05-19-2015 11:01 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 08:07 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 07:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 10:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  You bring up an interesting view, Bull

I wonder if this TV $$$ revenue greedy grab behavior and them calling themselves the so called "p5" is to help bring additional funds to their much needed hungry depleted tiny towns.


I get it now.

That's why we should have focused this conference solely on markets (and ECU). So many more options being in cities.

How's that doing for the ACC and CUSA? You have to expand with product on the field first and foremost. A team can't help where they are placed in regards to population density, but they can help what they put on the field during game day. Continued success brings about passionate alumni who bring about national ratings as they move on to the real world and move away from the college. The TCU/Boise/ECU effect.

The Big 12 could take BYU, Boise, ECU, and Cincy to improve their football 10 fold while also giving Kansas two more top basketball opponents in BYU and Cincy. It's a win/win as it would also be the move that makes Texas go Indy so the Big 12 can then pick UCF and create the Big 12 Network with several east coast states, Florida, and Texas along with the Midwest.


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Calm down. I included ECU. I'm saying that we should have focused on schools in big cities with stadium options that are easy to fly to with other things to do.

My 'Murican conference looks like this. 6 games in division, 2 game against the other division for football. Only 1 cross country trip per year which can be at the beginning of the season.

'Murica East
UConn
Cincinnati
Memphis
ECU
Navy
USF
UCF

'Murica West
Houston
Colorado State
BYU
Air Force
UNLV
Fresno State
San Diego State

Finding a spot for our travel SMU/Dallas acquaintances is a must

You guys don't need them. You're a quick plane ride (non-stop) to almost all of the western conference.

(05-19-2015 07:01 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 11:01 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 08:07 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 07:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  That's why we should have focused this conference solely on markets (and ECU). So many more options being in cities.

How's that doing for the ACC and CUSA? You have to expand with product on the field first and foremost. A team can't help where they are placed in regards to population density, but they can help what they put on the field during game day. Continued success brings about passionate alumni who bring about national ratings as they move on to the real world and move away from the college. The TCU/Boise/ECU effect.

The Big 12 could take BYU, Boise, ECU, and Cincy to improve their football 10 fold while also giving Kansas two more top basketball opponents in BYU and Cincy. It's a win/win as it would also be the move that makes Texas go Indy so the Big 12 can then pick UCF and create the Big 12 Network with several east coast states, Florida, and Texas along with the Midwest.


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Calm down. I included ECU. I'm saying that we should have focused on schools in big cities with stadium options that are easy to fly to with other things to do.

My 'Murican conference looks like this. 6 games in division, 2 game against the other division for football. Only 1 cross country trip per year which can be at the beginning of the season.

'Murica East
UConn
Cincinnati
Memphis
ECU
Navy
USF
UCF

'Murica West
Houston
Colorado State
BYU
Air Force
UNLV
Fresno State
San Diego State

Finding a spot for our travel SMU/Dallas acquaintances is a must

You guys don't need them. You're a quick plane ride (non-stop) to almost all of the western conference.

been telling yal gasouthern



no completions

(05-19-2015 07:01 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 11:01 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 08:07 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 07:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  That's why we should have focused this conference solely on markets (and ECU). So many more options being in cities.

How's that doing for the ACC and CUSA? You have to expand with product on the field first and foremost. A team can't help where they are placed in regards to population density, but they can help what they put on the field during game day. Continued success brings about passionate alumni who bring about national ratings as they move on to the real world and move away from the college. The TCU/Boise/ECU effect.

The Big 12 could take BYU, Boise, ECU, and Cincy to improve their football 10 fold while also giving Kansas two more top basketball opponents in BYU and Cincy. It's a win/win as it would also be the move that makes Texas go Indy so the Big 12 can then pick UCF and create the Big 12 Network with several east coast states, Florida, and Texas along with the Midwest.


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Calm down. I included ECU. I'm saying that we should have focused on schools in big cities with stadium options that are easy to fly to with other things to do.

My 'Murican conference looks like this. 6 games in division, 2 game against the other division for football. Only 1 cross country trip per year which can be at the beginning of the season.

'Murica East
UConn
Cincinnati
Memphis
ECU
Navy
USF
UCF

'Murica West
Houston
Colorado State
BYU
Air Force
UNLV
Fresno State
San Diego State

Finding a spot for our travel SMU/Dallas acquaintances is a must

You guys don't need them. You're a quick plane ride (non-stop) to almost all of the western conference.

Having the TWIN larger TEXAS markets in the same league (AAC) is a wise $$$ big deal, IMHO.

(05-19-2015 07:51 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 07:01 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 11:01 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 08:07 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  How's that doing for the ACC and CUSA? You have to expand with product on the field first and foremost. A team can't help where they are placed in regards to population density, but they can help what they put on the field during game day. Continued success brings about passionate alumni who bring about national ratings as they move on to the real world and move away from the college. The TCU/Boise/ECU effect.

The Big 12 could take BYU, Boise, ECU, and Cincy to improve their football 10 fold while also giving Kansas two more top basketball opponents in BYU and Cincy. It's a win/win as it would also be the move that makes Texas go Indy so the Big 12 can then pick UCF and create the Big 12 Network with several east coast states, Florida, and Texas along with the Midwest.


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Calm down. I included ECU. I'm saying that we should have focused on schools in big cities with stadium options that are easy to fly to with other things to do.

My 'Murican conference looks like this. 6 games in division, 2 game against the other division for football. Only 1 cross country trip per year which can be at the beginning of the season.

'Murica East
UConn
Cincinnati
Memphis
ECU
Navy
USF
UCF

'Murica West
Houston
Colorado State
BYU
Air Force
UNLV
Fresno State
San Diego State

Finding a spot for our travel SMU/Dallas acquaintances is a must

You guys don't need them. You're a quick plane ride (non-stop) to almost all of the western conference.

Having the TWIN larger TEXAS markets in the same league (AAC) is a wise $$$ big deal, IMHO.

Does Dallas really care about SMU? Kinda like New Orleans and Tulane.

(05-19-2015 07:51 PM)shere khan Wrote:  been telling yal gasouthern

Winning games vs 4-8 SEC teams (or any other team) means squat....as the most winningest program over the past 10-12 years is in some place called Mountain West Mountain while the Big Ten took Rutgers.

(05-19-2015 07:51 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

no completions

We already have Navy!

Dallas cares about SMU at least as much as Houston cares about UH. Win and they will show. Otherwise they have lots of options, as does Houston.

(05-17-2015 09:36 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  ESPN has the leverage here. Tell Texas they either make it into the Big 12 Network or the channel folds. That's literally the only options they have at this point.


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What leverage? ESPN owes Texas $15m per year for 20 years no matter what they do.