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Deregulation. Brilliant
Auburn and bama are undefeated going into the iron bowl. Bama wins. So then auburn and alabama play in the sec championship. Auburn wins. So two teams with one loss against each other go to the playoffs. Auburn vs alabama in the national championship game

Auburn vs bama 3 in one year

All sec
All auburn
All alabama
All the time

Thank you acc and bignot12, choose a team - AU or UA. Welcome to your new reality

Brilliant plan
05-15-2015 11:48 AM
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This possibility is not unique to the deregulation scenario. This same possibility has existed ever since the BCS national championship game emerged and conferences added championship games. I agree the scenario is now slightly more likely, however.
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I'd love it if 2 teams from the same conference (doesn't have to be AU and UA) make the plus-one. Two P-5 conferences would be left out. We'd have an 8-team playoff the following year.
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(05-15-2015 12:30 PM)Chappy Wrote:  I'd love it if 2 teams from the same conference (doesn't have to be AU and UA) make the plus-one. Two P-5 conferences would be left out. We'd have an 8-team playoff the following year.

If the 4-team format continues on for a while, it's inevitable that a conference will get 2 teams in at some point. Now for some real craziness... what if 2 conferences get 2 in? Or 1 conference 3 in?

A repeat of 1971 with Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Colorado #1, #2, and #3 is always a possibility. Parity is greater in college football today, but conferences are also much larger, so I think it could certainly happen again.
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(05-15-2015 01:32 PM)Eichorst Wrote:  
(05-15-2015 12:30 PM)Chappy Wrote:  I'd love it if 2 teams from the same conference (doesn't have to be AU and UA) make the plus-one. Two P-5 conferences would be left out. We'd have an 8-team playoff the following year.

If the 4-team format continues on for a while, it's inevitable that a conference will get 2 teams in at some point. Now for some real craziness... what if 2 conferences get 2 in? Or 1 conference 3 in?

A repeat of 1971 with Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Colorado #1, #2, and #3 is always a possibility. Parity is greater in college football today, but conferences are also much larger, so I think it could certainly happen again.

Playoff representation is capped at 2 teams. 3 is not an option under the CFP format.
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(05-15-2015 01:37 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(05-15-2015 01:32 PM)Eichorst Wrote:  
(05-15-2015 12:30 PM)Chappy Wrote:  I'd love it if 2 teams from the same conference (doesn't have to be AU and UA) make the plus-one. Two P-5 conferences would be left out. We'd have an 8-team playoff the following year.

If the 4-team format continues on for a while, it's inevitable that a conference will get 2 teams in at some point. Now for some real craziness... what if 2 conferences get 2 in? Or 1 conference 3 in?

A repeat of 1971 with Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Colorado #1, #2, and #3 is always a possibility. Parity is greater in college football today, but conferences are also much larger, so I think it could certainly happen again.

Playoff representation is capped at 2 teams. 3 is not an option under the CFP format.

wrong. There is no limit to the number of playoff teams.
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(05-15-2015 01:37 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Playoff representation is capped at 2 teams. 3 is not an option under the CFP format.

Where have you seen that? Everything I've read makes it clear that they've eliminated such rules, though it's difficult to imagine the committee actually picking 3 or 4 teams from a single conference.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...s/2111419/

Quote:Q: The old BCS allowed a maximum of two teams from a conference. Is the same rule in place now?

A: No, all those limits have been lifted. Though unlikely, one conference could have all four semifinal teams if the selection committee decided they were the four best in the country. Or, a conference could have two in the semifinals and another two in the "host bowls" depending on how things shake out. The point is, the goal of the system is to create the most attractive matchups without too many arbitrary rules.
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Welp, guess I was wrong. Let's hope the PAC-12 gets 3 members in so the SEB1GXIICC will have none of it.
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IMO: The committee as currently composed is never going to put 3 teams from the same conference in the 4-team playoff. The committee by design is going to be inclined toward the kind of "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" logrolling that makes giving 3 spots to one conference extremely unlikely, even in the rare situation where 3 teams from one conference were good enough that AP voters might rank them 1-2-3.

"Rare" is an understatement. 1971 is the only time it's happened AFAIK, and even then the 1971 Big 8 1-2-3 was a post-bowl ranking, not the pre-bowl ranking that in the current system would lead to choosing the 4 playoff teams. The final pre-bowl AP poll in 1971 was: 1) Nebraska, 2) Alabama, 3) Michigan, 4) Oklahoma, 5) Auburn, 6) Colorado. Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Colorado all won their bowl games. Alabama, Michigan, and Auburn all lost their bowl games. (Nebraska beat Alabama 38-6 in a 1 vs. 2 Orange Bowl matchup.)
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all 3 teams from same conference would probably need to be at least 11-1, and no other conference champs with only 1 loss, to get invited to a 4 team playoff. even then, they might still take a 11-2 conference champ over an 11-1 3rd place team.
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(05-15-2015 02:39 PM)goofus Wrote:  all 3 teams from same conference would probably need to be at least 11-1, and no other conference champs with only 1 loss, to get invited to a 4 team playoff. even then, they might still take a 11-2 conference champ over an 11-1 3rd place team.

There could also be a situation in which the 11-2 conference champ is a team like Washington St or Northwestern. It's doubtful that either team has enough brand name to be in the Top 4 with an 11-2 record. So if the wrong teams win conference championships, it's possible a league like the SEC could get 3 in.

That said, it's still extremely unlikely, as I agree that the committee will seek broad conference participation vs 3 from a single conference.
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I think if every other team had 3 or more losses, you might see 3 teams from one conference, especially if two of them had only 1 loss.

Ironically the Big 12's lack of a CCG may be the best opportunity for that to happen, if three teams went 11-1 and were 1-1 head to head. Everyone else in the P5 would have to have 2+ losses.
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