I recently found out from some very connected people who I had dinner with while staying in Marseille that Yale, MIT and Harvard blackballed UCONN from becoming members. Their fear is that if UCONN becomes a member of the AAU, it will dilute research funding in the New England region. That is a no go, so looks like the fix is in to exclude UCONN from the AAU.

On a related note, rumor has it that Syracuse and Nebraska will be asked to rejoin.

I call BS. UConn recruits lots of AAU basketball players.

(05-13-2015 08:15 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  I call BS. UConn recruits lots of AAU basketball players.

Ahhh yes. Forgot that one. UCONN being blackballed from that one too. J/K.

Funny.. Yale beat UConn in basketball this year and beat the common opponent in football that they both played (Army, which beat UConn). So I guess this means better in the classroom, better on the field?

Isn't Nebraska out of the AAU because of the location of their medical school?

Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio?

although I know Miko is kidding, it would be nice to see Nebraska do what it has to do to get back into the AAU, whether that means merging with the med school, or upgrading its existing academics and research to AAU standards.

then we settle once and for all whether the Big Ten is an AAU only conference, at least until Oklahoma is invited.

(05-13-2015 07:53 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Yale, MIT and Harvard blackballed UCONN from becoming members. Their fear is that if UCONN becomes a member of the AAU, it will dilute research funding in the New England region. That is a no go, so looks like the fix is in to exclude UCONN from the AAU.

I commend you for coming up with new and creative ways to troll UConn fans every week.

(05-13-2015 07:53 AM)miko33 Wrote:  I recently found out from some very connected people who I had dinner with while staying in Marseille that Yale, MIT and Harvard blackballed UCONN from becoming members. Their fear is that if UCONN becomes a member of the AAU, it will dilute research funding in the New England region. That is a no go, so looks like the fix is in to exclude UCONN from the AAU.

On a related note, rumor has it that Syracuse and Nebraska will be asked to rejoin.

But I thought your sources in Singapore and Katmandu said we would be admitted. Which is it?

The AAU has 62 universities in the United States.

If you look at the raw research numbers here: http://ncsesdata.nsf.gov/herd/2013/html/...ST_19.html

and only look at comprehensive universities (no medical specialty institutions like UC San Fran, UTX Anderson, etc. and no mostly life sciences like UAB, UMD Baltimore, UCO Denver, etc.), they represent a good chunk of the top schools.


Schools like VT and Utah should be next in line.


Nebraska is not bad but has others higher, though the B1G connection obviously helps (Indiana has no business being in the club).

Syracuse is way down the list.

(05-13-2015 12:53 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  The AAU has 62 universities in the United States.

If you look at the raw research numbers here: http://ncsesdata.nsf.gov/herd/2013/html/...ST_19.html

and only look at comprehensive universities (no medical specialty institutions like UC San Fran, UTX Anderson, etc. and no mostly life sciences like UAB, UMD Baltimore, UCO Denver, etc.), they represent a good chunk of the top schools.


Schools like VT and Utah should be next in line.


Nebraska is not bad but has others higher, though the B1G connection obviously helps (Indiana has no business being in the club).

Syracuse is way down the list.

I read somewhere that Florida State and Oklahoma could both be voted in. There are a lot of good candidates out there.

I read somewhere that someone read that somewhere.

(05-13-2015 02:11 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  I read somewhere that someone read that somewhere.

Cover your ears and listen up! Admission is free, so pay at the door, pull up a chair and sit on the floor. Next Thursday, the day after Friday, Miko will tell us something that he knows nothing about.

(05-13-2015 12:19 PM)Sparkster Wrote:  Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio?

He's out with Mrs. Robinson.

(05-13-2015 01:47 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 12:53 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  The AAU has 62 universities in the United States.

If you look at the raw research numbers here: http://ncsesdata.nsf.gov/herd/2013/html/...ST_19.html

and only look at comprehensive universities (no medical specialty institutions like UC San Fran, UTX Anderson, etc. and no mostly life sciences like UAB, UMD Baltimore, UCO Denver, etc.), they represent a good chunk of the top schools.


Schools like VT and Utah should be next in line.


Nebraska is not bad but has others higher, though the B1G connection obviously helps (Indiana has no business being in the club).

Syracuse is way down the list.

I read somewhere that Florida State and Oklahoma could both be voted in. There are a lot of good candidates out there.

if Oklahoma could somehow muster up an AAU invite, a BigTen invite is almost sure to follow.

1) BC fears UConn in athletics.
2) Now Harvard, Yale, and MIT fear UConn in academics.

We've come a long way from being the Storrs Agricultural College in 1881.

(05-13-2015 08:40 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  Funny.. Yale beat UConn in basketball this year and beat the common opponent in football that they both played (Army, which beat UConn). So I guess this means better in the classroom, better on the field?

Isn't Nebraska out of the AAU because of the location of their medical school?

(05-13-2015 12:25 PM)goofus Wrote:  although I know Miko is kidding, it would be nice to see Nebraska do what it has to do to get back into the AAU, whether that means merging with the med school, or upgrading its existing academics and research to AAU standards.

then we settle once and for all whether the Big Ten is an AAU only conference, at least until Oklahoma is invited.

Nebraska stands little chance of being invited back to the AAU

the medical school issue and location or being independent of the university had nothing to do with why they were ask to leave that was just an excuse by the NU chancellor

there are many members of the AAU with no medical school including the second newest member GaTech

Nebraska had 10 years to merge the medical school and choose not to do so because they knew it would not help them.....the AAU would have evaluated them on the basis of having a medical school if they had added the medical school under the main campus because the AAU evaluates the school on the basis of a number of factors like having a medical school or not and public or private ect

so having the medical school merged would have not been a straight benefit and an addition to raw numbers.......it would have changed the evaluation criteria as well because of now having a medical school and they almost certainly would have still been ask t leave which is why they did not merge the two

Nebraska was ask to leave because of a weakness in competitively awarded life sciences and engineering grants and a number of other reasons

they were on the low end of many metrics of comparable public universities and that was even after being normalized for faculty count, state funding and the like and they had particular weaknesses in ares of strong grant funding dollar growth from the feds and other sources

(05-13-2015 04:27 PM)goofus Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 01:47 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 12:53 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  The AAU has 62 universities in the United States.

If you look at the raw research numbers here: http://ncsesdata.nsf.gov/herd/2013/html/...ST_19.html

and only look at comprehensive universities (no medical specialty institutions like UC San Fran, UTX Anderson, etc. and no mostly life sciences like UAB, UMD Baltimore, UCO Denver, etc.), they represent a good chunk of the top schools.


Schools like VT and Utah should be next in line.


Nebraska is not bad but has others higher, though the B1G connection obviously helps (Indiana has no business being in the club).

Syracuse is way down the list.

I read somewhere that Florida State and Oklahoma could both be voted in. There are a lot of good candidates out there.

if Oklahoma could somehow muster up an AAU invite, a BigTen invite is almost sure to follow.

Hardly. Iowa State is a few spots above them in the rankings and already is AAU. No invite, yet.

OU and FSU are both in the top 100 in the rankings, at least. But for OU, that's because they claim the research being done on the entirely separate Health Sciences campus in Oklahoma City.

(05-13-2015 06:11 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 08:40 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  Funny.. Yale beat UConn in basketball this year and beat the common opponent in football that they both played (Army, which beat UConn). So I guess this means better in the classroom, better on the field?

Isn't Nebraska out of the AAU because of the location of their medical school?

(05-13-2015 12:25 PM)goofus Wrote:  although I know Miko is kidding, it would be nice to see Nebraska do what it has to do to get back into the AAU, whether that means merging with the med school, or upgrading its existing academics and research to AAU standards.

then we settle once and for all whether the Big Ten is an AAU only conference, at least until Oklahoma is invited.

Nebraska stands little chance of being invited back to the AAU

the medical school issue and location or being independent of the university had nothing to do with why they were ask to leave that was just an excuse by the NU chancellor

there are many members of the AAU with no medical school including the second newest member GaTech

Nebraska had 10 years to merge the medical school and choose not to do so because they knew it would not help them.....the AAU would have evaluated them on the basis of having a medical school if they had added the medical school under the main campus because the AAU evaluates the school on the basis of a number of factors like having a medical school or not and public or private ect

so having the medical school merged would have not been a straight benefit and an addition to raw numbers.......it would have changed the evaluation criteria as well because of now having a medical school and they almost certainly would have still been ask t leave which is why they did not merge the two

Nebraska was ask to leave because of a weakness in competitively awarded life sciences and engineering grants and a number of other reasons

they were on the low end of many metrics of comparable public universities and that was even after being normalized for faculty count, state funding and the like and they had particular weaknesses in ares of strong grant funding dollar growth from the feds and other sources

The NSF data doesn't seem to back your claim.

(05-13-2015 06:31 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 06:11 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 08:40 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  Funny.. Yale beat UConn in basketball this year and beat the common opponent in football that they both played (Army, which beat UConn). So I guess this means better in the classroom, better on the field?

Isn't Nebraska out of the AAU because of the location of their medical school?

(05-13-2015 12:25 PM)goofus Wrote:  although I know Miko is kidding, it would be nice to see Nebraska do what it has to do to get back into the AAU, whether that means merging with the med school, or upgrading its existing academics and research to AAU standards.

then we settle once and for all whether the Big Ten is an AAU only conference, at least until Oklahoma is invited.

Nebraska stands little chance of being invited back to the AAU

the medical school issue and location or being independent of the university had nothing to do with why they were ask to leave that was just an excuse by the NU chancellor

there are many members of the AAU with no medical school including the second newest member GaTech

Nebraska had 10 years to merge the medical school and choose not to do so because they knew it would not help them.....the AAU would have evaluated them on the basis of having a medical school if they had added the medical school under the main campus because the AAU evaluates the school on the basis of a number of factors like having a medical school or not and public or private ect

so having the medical school merged would have not been a straight benefit and an addition to raw numbers.......it would have changed the evaluation criteria as well because of now having a medical school and they almost certainly would have still been ask t leave which is why they did not merge the two

Nebraska was ask to leave because of a weakness in competitively awarded life sciences and engineering grants and a number of other reasons

they were on the low end of many metrics of comparable public universities and that was even after being normalized for faculty count, state funding and the like and they had particular weaknesses in ares of strong grant funding dollar growth from the feds and other sources

The NSF data doesn't seem to back your claim.

Does the NSF data include Dept of Ad research? IIRC from the info before, the AAU does not count those that are awarded non-competitively by them.

Utah isn't nearly selective enough for AAU. they have the research though.

If the Big 12 lost Texas, the AAC would surpass the Big 12 in research power. And if they lost the big 3 - Texas OU and Kansas, it would be a wipeout.