(05-13-2015 01:33 PM)Tygrys Wrote: (05-13-2015 12:44 PM)Stammers Wrote: (05-12-2015 04:37 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: I sense sarcasm.
If he wasn't any good, then why sign him?
That's the wall you folks keep running into when you throw players who leave the program under the bus by saying they weren't any good anyway.
Barham scored 3.2 ppg his first year at Gonzaga. Black, Barton, and Woodson all regressed and Kendrick was a total non factor at Ole Piss and UNLV for a couple of years. Wilson scored a lot more points in a lot more minutes, but his shooting and 3 point percentages actually went down at Kennessaw State.
I'm not one to slam players, but it's not like any of them set the world on fire after they left. The good news for you is that now you can switch to Plan B; which is to criticize Pastner for his skills as an evaluator of talent and then if that doesn't work, you can move to any of your other dozen or so complaints.
I don't think that Magee is going to pan out, but he's so young, so who knows? We will see what happens with King, Pookie and Iverson. I think that King will be productive while showing the same weaknesses he did here, and I think that Pookie and Iverson are both going to become very good D1 players at Lasalle and Rhode Island.
Time will tell.
Appears you are simply cherry picking stats for each player to define regression. Black and Barton did not really improve but they also did not regress, they were who they were, for lack of a better description. Barham and Wilson got bigger roles at their schools and seemingly improved. Big Dom and Kendrick were both head cases who needed to go and that has been proven by their other stops. The jury is obviously still out on the Iverson, Pookie, King, and Magee. If I had to guess, it will play out something like Iverson and Pookie improving, King being like Black and Barton and Magee possibly being more toward the Woodson and Kendrick end of the spectrum, which basically lines up with what you seem to think will happen as well.
I'm not cherry picking at all...
Barton
- Worst shooting percentage in 4 years
- Worst three point shooting in 4 years
- Best scoring in 4 years
- Tie for best free throw shooting in 4 years (6 more points total on ff than 3 year average at Memphis)
- Best assist total in 4 years (2.1 per game as the starting point guard)
Black
I'm not going to harp on Black's scoring and rebounding being the worst of his career at Kansas because he played less minutes. I'm also not going to harp on the fact that his turnovers per minute were up and his blocks per minutes were way down. His field goal and free throw shooting were the best of his career.
Black regressed because before Embiid got injured, he was an afterthought who produced horrible numbers. Not only that, he was a fouling machine at Memphis, but at Kansas his numbers were completely off the chart. At Memphis, he committed a foul every 7.0 minutes. At Kansas he committed a foul every 4.7 minutes. To put that into perspective, he committed 5 fouls for every 23.5 minutes he played.
In any event, regardless of how you view the numbers, I think everyone can agree that out of Kendrick, Barton, Woodson, Barham, Wilson, and Black; there isn't a single player in the lot, where you can see anything that resembles obvious improvement.
As you mentioned, I think that both Pookie and Iverson are going to become very good D1 payers, and I think that King is going to put up very good numbers; which is better than you think he will do.
I think that my opinion is fair and balanced.
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Pookie Powell will transfer to Lasalle
I wish Pookie the best!!! We let an all name get away.
He always seemed like a good kid to rep Memphis.
