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Trouble in Champaign?
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RE: Trouble in Champaign?
good for him. the SA has rights too...they should not be forced to play through injury and to compromise lifetime health. a schollie is not a commitment to sell your body outright, there should be a limit. keep on gonig.
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RE: Trouble in Champaign?
So first he says, “I stopped playing football because of my physical health. I was asked to push myself past pain until I didn’t want to play anymore."

But then talking about their bowl game he says, “I could have played.”

Meh... 03-no
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RE: Trouble in Champaign?
Beckman is the ship that just......won't........sink. Sheesh, more lives than a cat. Or maybe it just seems like he's been around longer due to intense amount of blundering.
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RE: Trouble in Champaign?
(05-10-2015 08:40 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  Beckman is the ship that just......won't........sink. Sheesh, more lives than a cat. Or maybe it just seems like he's been around longer due to intense amount of blundering.

I can't believe he's made it to a 4th year simply because his first year was an unmitigated disaster. Kill me. 03-banghead

While I'd bet there's a lot more to this story than what is on that kid's timeline, watching Beckman try and handle the media in this instance should be highly entertaining (and simultaneously infuriating).

EDIT: Well nevermind, Beckman issued a statement and will not address the situation further. Makes sense given he can't really win (this is all he said/he said) and there are also medical privacy issues that prevent him from talking about certain things.
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RE: Trouble in Champaign?
Just one side of a story. Here's a current players take

https://twitter.com/_teddy_k/status/597540669394067456
05-10-2015 09:24 PM
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RE: Trouble in Champaign?
There will always be disgruntled players and employees at workplaces.

The more complaints that come out the more merit this sort of thing has. Remember that WR from Minnesota? His problem was 99% of all other Kill players loved him. I don't think Beckman is well liked, but I'm going to wait to hear from more players before I hear more.

He certainly in my opinion isn't a good coach. He also seems like a total jacka$$.
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RE: Trouble in Champaign?
I'm a little young to appreciate the comparison..but from what I've heard, can any of the older guys confirm that the current Illini just seem like a train wreck similar to what NIU was in the 90s pre-Novak?? Just drama upon drama...
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(05-10-2015 07:57 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  good for him. the SA has rights too...they should not be forced to play through injury and to compromise lifetime health. a schollie is not a commitment to sell your body outright, there should be a limit. keep on gonig.
A grown ass man plays football for HIS own purposes and others are to be blamed? No one tied him to a chair and water boarded him. He decided to play with pain. Sorry he played hurt, but the primary reason he got hurt was because of his actions and beliefs.
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(05-10-2015 09:59 PM)NIU75 Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 07:57 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  good for him. the SA has rights too...they should not be forced to play through injury and to compromise lifetime health. a schollie is not a commitment to sell your body outright, there should be a limit. keep on gonig.
A grown ass man plays football for HIS own purposes and others are to be blamed? No one tied him to a chair and water boarded him. He decided to play with pain. Sorry he played hurt, but the primary reason he got hurt was because of his actions and beliefs.

I'm not saying I disagree / agree with you in this case, but I think you need to be careful with what you're saying. Players don't always know to the full extent to which their actions may have. Coaches and training staff are there to prevent him from taking the field in situations like these. You could use your argument on those who want to take the field after being concussed. Yes, of course players want to be on the field, and a lot of times they do sacrifice their bodies. The league is trying to prevent that exact thing from happening, and is punishing coaches and trainers for allowing it to happen. Just look at this mess: https://youtu.be/N1mIcYz-DM8 are you telling me the coaches have zero liability in these sort of situations? Players want to play, but coaches and training staff need to make the right decisions in these situations to PROTECT their players, and do what's best for them in the long run.
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(05-11-2015 02:06 AM)Enaiu Wrote:  I'm not saying I disagree / agree with you in this case, but I think you need to be careful with what you're saying. Players don't always know to the full extent to which their actions may have.

They are *adults*. they are responsible for themselves.
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RE: Trouble in Champaign?
Forcing injured players to wear the color jersey of your rival in practice is immature and idiotic. How is an injured player suddenly an enemy of the team. Beckman will not be long for the position he has. When a veteran starter who was recruited by Beckman expresses this much dissapointment about the coaches and program, recruiting will be even harder for Beckman
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RE: Trouble in Champaign?
P.J. your next coaching position is in waiting.
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RE: Trouble in Champaign?
A lot of money in the game of college football, seems most parties have someone "watching out" for them, coach's have agents that negotiate contracts with buyout clauses, etc., universities have PR agencies and lawyers all around them that help them manage the money, NCAA has the same legal and PR teams. I believe the NCAA is supposed to be that rep for the players/students...do they have it?

The thought about "being an adult" so it doesn't matter is kind of crazy, part of the professional sport unions is to watch out for injury and health concerns as well (yes contract/money takes up a lot of it).
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(05-11-2015 02:06 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  A lot of money in the game of college football, seems most parties have someone "watching out" for them, coach's have agents that negotiate contracts with buyout clauses, etc., universities have PR agencies and lawyers all around them that help them manage the money, NCAA has the same legal and PR teams. I believe the NCAA is supposed to be that rep for the players/students...do they have it?

The thought about "being an adult" so it doesn't matter is kind of crazy, part of the professional sport unions is to watch out for injury and health concerns as well (yes contract/money takes up a lot of it).
That is why we have unions at all levels to protect the workers' rights.
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(05-11-2015 01:50 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  P.J. your next coaching position is in waiting.

Yep if Illinois hires another MAC HC it would be him
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(05-11-2015 01:50 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  P.J. your next coaching position is in waiting.

I really doubt it. I think Illini will try to go for a name. Beckman was just a poor choice as he did not tear up at Toledo. What irks me is that 3 of 4 of their non com games are very easy. He wins 3 and get 3 big ten wins they go to a bowl and Beckman tells everyone he turned it around. In 2015 he plays Kent, WIU, Middle Tenn and at UNC. Give me a break
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(05-12-2015 08:02 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  
(05-11-2015 01:50 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  P.J. your next coaching position is in waiting.

I really doubt it. I think Illini will try to go for a name. Beckman was just a poor choice as he did not tear up at Toledo. What irks me is that 3 of 4 of their non com games are very easy. He wins 3 and get 3 big ten wins they go to a bowl and Beckman tells everyone he turned it around. In 2015 he plays Kent, WIU, Middle Tenn and at UNC. Give me a break


Illness will TRY for a name - just like they did before hiring Beckman. But coaching in Champaign doesn't seem to appeal to anyone. Beckman was way down on the list of possible hires. No one wants the job.
They can try all they want but no "name" is going to take that trainwreck.
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