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RE: 2014-2015 War on I-4 Thread - Part Deux!
(05-08-2015 05:25 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 04:10 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(05-05-2015 09:05 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  USF is older. Simple as that.

Not surprising that USF is ahead in metrics that typically favor older institutions. Not to mention the huge majority of USF's research dollars come thanks in part to their medical school and cancer center, which they've had in place even longer than schools like FSU. To suggest that this equates to academic prowess is both naive and misleading. Remember, just a few years ago, the same ranking source you are now touting considered USF a Tier 3 university. Unfortunately, USF still has one of the worst 4 and 6-year graduation rates of any university in Florida (UCF is 3rd behind UF and FSU) and also does a terrible job of recruiting National Merit Scholars (USF is near the bottom of the state in NMS while UCF is 2nd behind UF). Also, UCF has consistently been ranked in the world's Top 25 in both patent research and the strength and commerciability of its patents.

Point is, while beating out other schools for research dollars can be seen as impressive, there's still a lot of work to be done to be considered an academic powerhouse.

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Were 7 years older.... 7! Funny how the argument of how long we have been around changes when I bring up that your football program is 18 years older than us... but I digress.

So your top 25 in patents... good job. Call me when your top 10. 4-6 graduates rates have actually skyrocketed. You may want to check your numbers. UCFs is higher because your administration was able to push through more funding for on campus housing. Were about to double ours, so that will be just another metric we will beat you on.

Simple fact is, UCF grads like to brag but in academics, we have you....but its all because of our massive 7 year head start. 01-wingedeagle
I haven't seen a lot of UCF grads pounding their chests over academic prowess, however, conference championships in football, bcs bowl wins, and top 25 rankings, thats another story. Enjoy your series advantage while you can. Incidentally I believe the former poster was comparing the age of the Medical schools, not the institutions themselves. How old is USF's Medical school compared to UCF's? I ask because I really don't know, but I believe that plays heavily into academic rankings. Your thoughts?

Our medical school is considerably older... I still dont get his point. Somehow because we were smart enough to start a medical school early that the comparison of our two universities isnt fair because of it? I dont get that.

and I will enjoy our lead. I honestly think well have things worked out by the time you catch up...and then well hang another four on you. :)
05-08-2015 08:03 PM
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RE: 2014-2015 War on I-4 Thread - Part Deux!
(05-08-2015 08:03 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 05:25 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 04:10 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(05-05-2015 09:05 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  USF is older. Simple as that.

Not surprising that USF is ahead in metrics that typically favor older institutions. Not to mention the huge majority of USF's research dollars come thanks in part to their medical school and cancer center, which they've had in place even longer than schools like FSU. To suggest that this equates to academic prowess is both naive and misleading. Remember, just a few years ago, the same ranking source you are now touting considered USF a Tier 3 university. Unfortunately, USF still has one of the worst 4 and 6-year graduation rates of any university in Florida (UCF is 3rd behind UF and FSU) and also does a terrible job of recruiting National Merit Scholars (USF is near the bottom of the state in NMS while UCF is 2nd behind UF). Also, UCF has consistently been ranked in the world's Top 25 in both patent research and the strength and commerciability of its patents.

Point is, while beating out other schools for research dollars can be seen as impressive, there's still a lot of work to be done to be considered an academic powerhouse.

07-coffee3

Were 7 years older.... 7! Funny how the argument of how long we have been around changes when I bring up that your football program is 18 years older than us... but I digress.

So your top 25 in patents... good job. Call me when your top 10. 4-6 graduates rates have actually skyrocketed. You may want to check your numbers. UCFs is higher because your administration was able to push through more funding for on campus housing. Were about to double ours, so that will be just another metric we will beat you on.

Simple fact is, UCF grads like to brag but in academics, we have you....but its all because of our massive 7 year head start. 01-wingedeagle
I haven't seen a lot of UCF grads pounding their chests over academic prowess, however, conference championships in football, bcs bowl wins, and top 25 rankings, thats another story. Enjoy your series advantage while you can. Incidentally I believe the former poster was comparing the age of the Medical schools, not the institutions themselves. How old is USF's Medical school compared to UCF's? I ask because I really don't know, but I believe that plays heavily into academic rankings. Your thoughts?

Our medical school is considerably older... I still dont get his point. Somehow because we were smart enough to start a medical school early that the comparison of our two universities isnt fair because of it? I dont get that.

and I will enjoy our lead. I honestly think well have things worked out by the time you catch up...and then well hang another four on you. :)
" That isn't fair?" Who said anything about fair? The discussion centered on purported UCF grads thumping their chest over academics. What is fair never entered the equation. Perhaps you missed the part of my post wherein I stated "I believe (the medical school) plays heavily into academic rankings." Your quote that "well (sic) have things worked out by the time you catch up." Is undermined by the fact that UCF has GOL as head coach and USF has that bus driving and bus crashing WT as head coach. I certainly appreciate your optimism, and homerism, I just don't think history will bear your prognostications out, put another way, I like the way the series is trending.
05-09-2015 11:09 AM
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RE: 2014-2015 War on I-4 Thread - Part Deux!
I'm gonna be pissed if this thread ends up in the smack forum all because my UCF brethren can't resist feeding one troll.
05-09-2015 11:59 AM
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RE: [split] 2014-2015 War on I-4 Thread - Part Deux!
(05-09-2015 11:59 AM)st932253 Wrote:  I'm gonna be pissed if this thread ends up in the smack forum all because my UCF brethren can't resist feeding one troll.

Well then it's time to get "pissed," Mr. thought-policeman.
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