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(05-11-2015 05:31 AM)odusteeler Wrote:  Richmond?....good luck.

I think there is as good of chance if we played in a temporary home that it would be in California as Richmond. Maybe Duke can play their games at the Dean Dome while Cameron gets renovated. Or The Vikings can play at lambeau while their new joint is constructed.

Come on man

The distance will indeed pose a problem for many, but I'm willing to bet that fans would rather take that trip to Richmond over a game at NSU. Not many ODU fans went to the NSU game 2 years ago. I'm sure Smitty and '78 would lobby for Richmond if ODU had to play somewhere else. lol

However, like I said before, the only realistic option is to build on the current site by tearing down one side at a time. ODU can make 30k seats happen at Foreman Field.

(05-10-2015 09:20 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  For all of you who state blanket opposition to imminent domain, I assume you will no longer use electricity, drive on the interstates, use anything that was transported by rail, fly into and out of airports, or partake of or participate in the myriad products and activities that are available only because private property was taken through the power of imminent domain.

We should all be thankful that our founding fathers were astute enough to understand the need for this power and provide for its lawful use in our constitution. If you misspoke and simply oppose the unconstitutional use and abuse of this power, I fully concur.

It is "eminent domain" not "imminent domain". In any event, eminent domain laws are not necessarily bad so long as they are properly and fairly applied.

(05-11-2015 07:16 AM)Monarch Blue Wrote:  

(05-10-2015 09:20 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  For all of you who state blanket opposition to imminent domain, I assume you will no longer use electricity, drive on the interstates, use anything that was transported by rail, fly into and out of airports, or partake of or participate in the myriad products and activities that are available only because private property was taken through the power of imminent domain.

We should all be thankful that our founding fathers were astute enough to understand the need for this power and provide for its lawful use in our constitution. If you misspoke and simply oppose the unconstitutional use and abuse of this power, I fully concur.

It is "eminent domain" not "imminent domain". In any event, eminent domain laws are not necessarily bad so long as they are properly and fairly applied.

Right on all counts. BTW, everyone has already been corrected on the misspelling by RR.

(05-11-2015 05:58 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  Richmond is indeed a long shot but consider that UMASS traveled the same distance to Foxboro which was also 90 miles. I only suggested Richmond because it's the only stadium that wouldn't need additional temporary seating and sharing with another team. The Richmond Kickers season ends the first week of September.

It would also give Northern Virginia Monarch fans a chance to see the team without the long drive to Norfolk. I bet a few VCU fans would show up as well being that they have nothing to do until November.

Why would we want vcu fans showing up to a odu "home" football game?

Razor and Monarch Blue: Thanks guys. Correction made. That was a classic malapropism, and I knew better. Another sign of old age, I suppose.

(05-11-2015 08:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Why would we want vcu fans showing up to a odu "home" football game?

Please, don't feed the troll.

Classic Sirloin ahahah. Well done.

(05-11-2015 04:36 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  The only problem with the FF site is the northwest and northeast corners of the stadium. The only home that needs to be removed is the one on the Longwood corner then move the road into the playground and around that edge of the stadium. There's also a wing to the admissions building directly behind the scoreboard that needs to be removed.

ODU can also raze the Ainslie Building and Koch Hall then reorient the field so it points at an east to west angle. Of course ODU will have to play elsewhere while the stadium is being built. I think Harbor Park can add enough seating to accommodate season ticket holders. I think the 22,611 seat City Stadium in Richmond should be considered as well. I'm sure ODU fans in Richmond wouldn't have a problem with that. I like the idea of encroaching into UVA and VT territory. Like a lion marking his territory.

Isn't East-to-West alignment bad as the players will be looking towards the sun during mid-evening games? Or is that only considered for baseball? Also the leveling of Ainslie seems like a big waste of money. The new master plan was calling for a renovated/repurposed use for the building. I think they try to incorporate it into the new stadium.

(05-11-2015 06:52 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  The distance will indeed pose a problem for many, but I'm willing to bet that fans would rather take that trip Richmond over a game at NSU. Not many ODU fans went to the NSU game 2 years ago. I'm sure Smitty and '78 would lobby for Richmond if ODU had to play somewhere else. lol

However, like I said before, the only realistic option is to build on the current site by tearing down one side at a time. ODU can make 30k seats happen at Foreman Field.

Im in Richmond and I fully believe ODU will not play at run down City Stadium. Heck I didn't even go to the Apple Blossom Music Festival there in 1974 which turned into a full blown riot.

I would rather play at the other football field on campus "Powhatan Field" than play in Richmond.

The Squires played in Richmond and Roanoke. Did not work out well for them.

This work can be done in the off season.

Agreed...the Richmond idea was spaghetti on a wall. And it didn't stick...

(05-11-2015 09:30 AM)ODUi Wrote:  

(05-11-2015 04:36 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  The only problem with the FF site is the northwest and northeast corners of the stadium. The only home that needs to be removed is the one on the Longwood corner then move the road into the playground and around that edge of the stadium. There's also a wing to the admissions building directly behind the scoreboard that needs to be removed.

ODU can also raze the Ainslie Building and Koch Hall then reorient the field so it points at an east to west angle. Of course ODU will have to play elsewhere while the stadium is being built. I think Harbor Park can add enough seating to accommodate season ticket holders. I think the 22,611 seat City Stadium in Richmond should be considered as well. I'm sure ODU fans in Richmond wouldn't have a problem with that. I like the idea of encroaching into UVA and VT territory. Like a lion marking his territory.

Isn't East-to-West alignment bad as the players will be looking towards the sun during mid-evening games? Or is that only considered for baseball? Also the leveling of Ainslie seems like a big waste of money. The new master plan was calling for a renovated/repurposed use for the building. I think they try to incorporate it into the new stadium.

The sun would not be an issue for either day or night games. If you were looking at the satellite image, the field would have to be rotated about 2:00 and moved slightly to the right. This would free up enough space to expand to 40k if Ainslie was razed.

If they want to move to Powhatan, ODU would have to level perfectly fine student housing and rebuild it. That's a waste of money as well, not to mention the cost of repurposing Ainslie.

I agree that Ainslie stays and will be part of the new stadium. The most likely scenario is the one that JMU took except that ours will be a complete stadium lol.

(05-11-2015 08:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Why would we want vcu fans showing up to a odu "home" football game?

I was joking about the VCU part, not the Richmond idea though. They may show up to give us support. I know Pav would be there.

(05-11-2015 10:28 AM)GO_MONARKS Wrote:  The Squires played in Richmond and Roanoke. Did not work out well for them.

This work can be done in the off season.

If ODU had to play elsewhere, both Harbor Park and Sportsplex would need additional seating. About 8 to 10 thousand extra seats. Who pays for that? Scheduling conflicts could arise from sharing a stadium with NSU. Safety concerns can keep thousands of ODU fans away. It was reported that shots were fired on campus back in April.

I agree that the new stadium can be built one side at a time. This is the most practical way to build it.

(05-11-2015 10:31 AM)odusteeler Wrote:  Agreed...the Richmond idea was spaghetti on a wall. And it didn't stick...

I'm sure Dr. Selig is an "out of the box" thinker and most likely had Richmond under radar. However, it's becoming quite clear that the Foreman Field option is gaining support.

(05-11-2015 10:31 AM)odusteeler Wrote:  Agreed...the Richmond idea was spaghetti on a wall. And it didn't stick...

Not spaghetti, it was linguine.

But now it's garbage.

(05-11-2015 12:49 PM)Friar Tuck 4400 Wrote:  

(05-11-2015 10:31 AM)odusteeler Wrote:  Agreed...the Richmond idea was spaghetti on a wall. And it didn't stick...

Not spaghetti, it was linguine.

But now it's garbage.

Friar Tuck 4400 is odusteeler?

(05-11-2015 12:47 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(05-11-2015 09:30 AM)ODUi Wrote:  

(05-11-2015 04:36 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  The only problem with the FF site is the northwest and northeast corners of the stadium. The only home that needs to be removed is the one on the Longwood corner then move the road into the playground and around that edge of the stadium. There's also a wing to the admissions building directly behind the scoreboard that needs to be removed.

ODU can also raze the Ainslie Building and Koch Hall then reorient the field so it points at an east to west angle. Of course ODU will have to play elsewhere while the stadium is being built. I think Harbor Park can add enough seating to accommodate season ticket holders. I think the 22,611 seat City Stadium in Richmond should be considered as well. I'm sure ODU fans in Richmond wouldn't have a problem with that. I like the idea of encroaching into UVA and VT territory. Like a lion marking his territory.

Isn't East-to-West alignment bad as the players will be looking towards the sun during mid-evening games? Or is that only considered for baseball? Also the leveling of Ainslie seems like a big waste of money. The new master plan was calling for a renovated/repurposed use for the building. I think they try to incorporate it into the new stadium.

The sun would not be an issue for either day or night games. If you were looking at the satellite image, the field would have to be rotated about 2:00 and moved slightly to the right. This would free up enough space to expand to 40k if Ainslie was razed.

If they want to move to Powhatan, ODU would have to level perfectly fine student housing and rebuild it. That's a waste of money as well, not to mention the cost of repurposing Ainslie.

I agree that Ainslie stays and will be part of the new stadium. The most likely scenario is the one that JMU took except that ours will be a complete stadium lol.

(05-11-2015 08:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Why would we want vcu fans showing up to a odu "home" football game?

I was joking about the VCU part, not the Richmond idea though. They may show up to give us support. I know Pav would be there.

(05-11-2015 10:28 AM)GO_MONARKS Wrote:  The Squires played in Richmond and Roanoke. Did not work out well for them.

This work can be done in the off season.

If ODU had to play elsewhere, both Harbor Park and Sportsplex would need additional seating. About 8 to 10 thousand extra seats. Who pays for that? Scheduling conflicts could arise from sharing a stadium with NSU. Safety concerns can keep thousands of ODU fans away. It was reported that shots were fired on campus back in April.

I agree that the new stadium can be built one side at a time. This is the most practical way to build it.

(05-11-2015 10:31 AM)odusteeler Wrote:  Agreed...the Richmond idea was spaghetti on a wall. And it didn't stick...

I'm sure Dr. Selig is an "out of the box" thinker and most likely had Richmond under radar. However, it's becoming quite clear that the Foreman Field option is gaining support.

Safety may not be an on campus issue at NSU. If they don't turn things around pretty quickly, they may join the ranks of Sweet Briar College and others who will/have shuttered their doors. https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktake...ts-97-jobs

No offense intended SB, but ODU playing it's home games in Richmond while a new larger stadium is being constructed just does not make sense to me. IMO the last thing ODU should want to do at a time when the ODU football ticket is a hot commodity, and while adding seats to meet demand, is to alienate the current season ticket base by moving their home games some 100 miles west.

(05-11-2015 01:12 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  

(05-11-2015 12:47 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(05-11-2015 09:30 AM)ODUi Wrote:  

(05-11-2015 04:36 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  The only problem with the FF site is the northwest and northeast corners of the stadium. The only home that needs to be removed is the one on the Longwood corner then move the road into the playground and around that edge of the stadium. There's also a wing to the admissions building directly behind the scoreboard that needs to be removed.

ODU can also raze the Ainslie Building and Koch Hall then reorient the field so it points at an east to west angle. Of course ODU will have to play elsewhere while the stadium is being built. I think Harbor Park can add enough seating to accommodate season ticket holders. I think the 22,611 seat City Stadium in Richmond should be considered as well. I'm sure ODU fans in Richmond wouldn't have a problem with that. I like the idea of encroaching into UVA and VT territory. Like a lion marking his territory.

Isn't East-to-West alignment bad as the players will be looking towards the sun during mid-evening games? Or is that only considered for baseball? Also the leveling of Ainslie seems like a big waste of money. The new master plan was calling for a renovated/repurposed use for the building. I think they try to incorporate it into the new stadium.

The sun would not be an issue for either day or night games. If you were looking at the satellite image, the field would have to be rotated about 2:00 and moved slightly to the right. This would free up enough space to expand to 40k if Ainslie was razed.

If they want to move to Powhatan, ODU would have to level perfectly fine student housing and rebuild it. That's a waste of money as well, not to mention the cost of repurposing Ainslie.

I agree that Ainslie stays and will be part of the new stadium. The most likely scenario is the one that JMU took except that ours will be a complete stadium lol.

(05-11-2015 08:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Why would we want vcu fans showing up to a odu "home" football game?

I was joking about the VCU part, not the Richmond idea though. They may show up to give us support. I know Pav would be there.

(05-11-2015 10:28 AM)GO_MONARKS Wrote:  The Squires played in Richmond and Roanoke. Did not work out well for them.

This work can be done in the off season.

If ODU had to play elsewhere, both Harbor Park and Sportsplex would need additional seating. About 8 to 10 thousand extra seats. Who pays for that? Scheduling conflicts could arise from sharing a stadium with NSU. Safety concerns can keep thousands of ODU fans away. It was reported that shots were fired on campus back in April.

I agree that the new stadium can be built one side at a time. This is the most practical way to build it.

(05-11-2015 10:31 AM)odusteeler Wrote:  Agreed...the Richmond idea was spaghetti on a wall. And it didn't stick...

I'm sure Dr. Selig is an "out of the box" thinker and most likely had Richmond under radar. However, it's becoming quite clear that the Foreman Field option is gaining support.

Safety may not be an on campus issue at NSU. If they don't turn things around pretty quickly, they may join the ranks of Sweet Briar College and others who will/have shuttered their doors. https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktake...ts-97-jobs

The shots that were fired back in April were reported to have occurred on campus along with a sexual assault. A recent NSU commercial was released to encourage enrollment so things aren't looking good for the HBC. However the Governor would probably step in to help before it closes it's doors. Then Governor Bob McDonnell requested the resignation of several NSU Board members when the school was going through academic issues.

(05-11-2015 01:36 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  No offense intended SB, but ODU playing it's home games in Richmond while a new larger stadium is being constructed just does not make sense to me. IMO the last thing ODU should want to do at a time when the ODU football ticket is a hot commodity, and while adding seats to meet demand, is to alienate the current season ticket base by moving their home games some 100 miles west.

Seriously, I sure as hell wouldn't want to drive to Richmond for a game. I'm just suggesting alternative sites for ODU to play if it had to move to another venue. It would certainly be the last option.

Logistics wise, Dick Price and maybe Zable would be better options, however, safety concerns would definitely keep thousands of fans away from NSU and Zable even with the new upgrade wouldn't be able to accommodate everyone. Scheduling conflicts can eliminate those options. We would alienate many ODU fans if we couldn't provide them a seat at Harbor Park or Sportsplex as well.

Although JMU was able to finish one side per season, ODU can't rule out possible delays. Let's hope that doesn't happen.