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How would you handle the support structures necessary at either location? I can't imagine Sportsplex or Harbor Park has locker room facilities that could accommodate two FBS programs.
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Sportsplex and Harbor Park??? Talk about pissing off fans. No way you get 20k in either for football.
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(05-08-2015 02:54 PM)ODUR8R Wrote:  Sportsplex

That's a pretty good chunk of tax revenue going from Norfolk to VB. I think they'd like to stay in the city if possible.
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(05-08-2015 02:35 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 02:22 PM)Oduniceguy Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 02:22 PM)FTW ODU Wrote:  So where will ODU play during construction?

NSU? They have a much larger seating capacity than us, so more would be able to attend. Getting some of our more snooty fans over there may present somewhat of a challenge though.

The ODU Monarchs will play at Foreman Field during the construction of our new stadium. As some who attended the coaches caravans reported, the part of the study pertaining to whether-or-not to build the new stadium at the current Foreman Field site is basically perfunctory. It is being written in mostly to silence any critics who might later say that it was never fully considered. Not only would the FF site mean we would have to play off campus for at least two seasons, it would also limit future expansion, and quite possibly drive up the cost.

We would not have to play off-campus at all. You do one side at a time, leaving the rest in place. For example east side 1st, replace between December and following September, leave all the rest in place. Then the endzone next off-season, and finally the West side the next. That is how it has been done at dozens of stadiums including JMU in our own state. That way you are increasing seating every year and working towards the finished product while keeping the game day facility and field for no additional cost. Not saying it is the best idea but it could be done and I do see some problems with the new location as well.
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(05-08-2015 02:37 PM)odusteeler Wrote:  One thing's certain - 2018 is out the window.

Actually, the study should be completed by Oct/Nov, and they are still shooting for 2018.

For those that have not been able to read the article. The consultant selected is Populus Architects. They have an excellent reputation, most recently working on the new Baylor University Stadium and (among others) have also consulted on work on stadiums for Texas A&M, Virginia Tech, Alabama and Florida. They were also involved in the design of the new Yankee Stadium, Camden Yards and Harbor Park.

Their deliverables include stadium location, capacity, construction cost estimate, drawings, and videos depicting the conceptual stadium.

It sounded to me like the consideration of the Foreman Field locations is more than just perfunctory. If that location is chosen, the field and the Ainsley Complex would remain and the two clamshells replaced one at a time along with the north end zone bleachers. If the JMU example is followed, construction of each side would take nine months during the off season and all games would be played at Foreman Field during the construction process.

Actually, quite a significant amount of information was revealed. We will know a lot more before the 2015 season is over. Personally, I'm psyched!
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(05-08-2015 02:37 PM)odusteeler Wrote:  One thing's certain - 2018 is out the window.

I don't think that is true at this point. Granted, there isn't much wiggle room left if that goal is going to be met.
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RE: New Stadium
Harbor Park and Sportsplex are only good options if we have no other option.

I'd prefer to build somewhere on campus that isn't Foreman Field and keep playing there until the stadium is ready but that is looking less and less likely.
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I don't think 2018 is out the window yet. They finish up concept and finalize size and location by oct/nov. Put our the RFP. Select firm by early 2016. Start construction late 2016ish?
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The only way that I can see 2018 being attainable is by using the Foreman Field site. If they use the Powhatan site and have to build new dorms before they tear down old dorms and then start construction on the stadium, I would bet we are at least a decade out, and that may be the reason that the Foreman site is back in the conversation.
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RE: New Stadium
(05-08-2015 03:01 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 02:37 PM)odusteeler Wrote:  One thing's certain - 2018 is out the window.

Actually, the study should be completed by Oct/Nov, and they are still shooting for 2018.

For those that have not been able to read the article. The consultant selected is Populus Architects. They have an excellent reputation, most recently working on the new Baylor University Stadium and (among others) have also consulted on work on stadiums for Texas A&M, Virginia Tech, Alabama and Florida. They were also involved in the design of the new Yankee Stadium, Camden Yards and Harbor Park.

Their deliverables include stadium location, capacity, construction cost estimate, drawings, and videos depicting the conceptual stadium.

It sounded to me like the consideration of the Foreman Field locations is more than just perfunctory. If that location is chosen, the field and the Ainsley Complex would remain and the two clamshells replaced one at a time along with the north end zone bleachers. If the JMU example is followed, construction of each side would take nine months during the off season and all games would be played at Foreman Field during the construction process.

Actually, quite a significant amount of information was revealed. We will know a lot more before the 2015 season is over. Personally, I'm psyched!

Yes, you are right. I wrote that based on someone's impressions that they had gleaned at the coaches caravan, but they were referring to expansion of Foreman Field, not to tearing it down and building anew. It does seem to be a project in flux currently, but that is why they hired Populous to do their study. I am confident the finished product will be great, and hopefully it will be delivered by 2018.
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I wasn't aware that HOK had changed their name, but they are a huge firm and highly regarded. They have the resources to get this done very quickly.
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(05-08-2015 03:44 PM)Cr8n Wrote:  I wasn't aware that HOK had changed their name, but they are a huge firm and highly regarded. They have the resources to get this done very quickly.

A little disappointing to hear that a Houston-style stadium might be too rich for ODU's blood. A Baylor stadium would be asking a lot, but Houston's shouldn't be unattainable.
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Maybe the article didn't say what we all want to hear, but if you read the contract there is a ton of very specific information. For instance, I had no idea they study how far up light extends from the stadium. I now know we are paying $120,000 for a 4 minute video of the finished project to use as a marketing tool, etc etc. Personally I'm impressed with Populus and the apparent attention to detail contained in the contract. It might take a while longer than hoped, but I feel very confident we will end up with an award winning stadium for it's size, just like Harbor Park and Camden Yard (coincidence?)
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(05-08-2015 04:54 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Maybe the article didn't say what we all want to hear, but if you read the contract there is a ton of very specific information. For instance, I had no idea they study how far up light extends from the stadium. I now know we are paying $120,000 for a 4 minute video of the finished project to use as a marketing tool, etc etc. Personally I'm impressed with Populus and the apparent attention to detail contained in the contract. It might take a while longer than hoped, but I feel very confident we will end up with an award winning stadium for it's size, just like Harbor Park and Camden Yard (coincidence?)

Was the contract published? Did I miss a link in the article?
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(05-08-2015 02:24 PM)FTW ODU Wrote:  The AD had said something about this during the Coaches Caravan. ODU is paying to do feasibility study for current location to appease people who are against moving to the new location. I guess they need a study to prove, once and for all, that current location won't work. He said that once that had been completed they'd begin with new location.

See this link to the comments that were made by those at the coaches caravan.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-734938.html

I've always preferred tearing down SB Ballard Stadium and rebuilding in the manner JMU did. If you look at the two sites, Powhatan does not appear to be any bigger than the current site. If they could straighten out the dogleg in Blue Stone and demolish the ROTC building, I think they would be able to fit a 40,000 seat stadium on the site. The other site i like is across Hampton Blvd in the vicinity of that radio business. Just eyeballing it, that site looks bigger than the other two.
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(05-08-2015 05:28 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 04:54 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Maybe the article didn't say what we all want to hear, but if you read the contract there is a ton of very specific information. For instance, I had no idea they study how far up light extends from the stadium. I now know we are paying $120,000 for a 4 minute video of the finished project to use as a marketing tool, etc etc. Personally I'm impressed with Populus and the apparent attention to detail contained in the contract. It might take a while longer than hoped, but I feel very confident we will end up with an award winning stadium for it's size, just like Harbor Park and Camden Yard (coincidence?)

Was the contract published? Did I miss a link in the article?

Not a link, just a continuation of the article. Keep scrolling down, you'll see it.
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(05-08-2015 02:22 PM)Oduniceguy Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 02:22 PM)FTW ODU Wrote:  So where will ODU play during construction?

NSU? They have a much larger seating capacity than us, so more would be able to attend. Getting some of our more snooty fans over there may present somewhat of a challenge though.

I can't imagine fans going to a Middle Tennessee night game at NSU.
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Yeah no doubt it's a really slow process. But it appears that there is little room for error and they are making sure they select the right location. As long as it's not off campus and has a really decent FBS capacity with room to grow, I'm okay with this update.
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(05-08-2015 05:28 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 04:54 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Was the contract published? Did I miss a link in the article?

Not a link, just a continuation of the article. Keep scrolling down, you'll see it.

Thanks.
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where do we play during demo and construction?
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