(05-06-2015 02:14 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:07 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:49 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:32 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 08:35 AM)ken d Wrote:  There are several things wrong here. Rutgers is not in a football crazed area. I suspect you know as much from your second sentence. Most importantly, NYC is not a market starved for a college home team to root for. NYC has all the teams it needs for fans to root for in the Giants and the Jets. College football in Gotham is of great interest for one reason only. It's something to bet on. That doesn't require local teams, just local bookies. There are lots of those.

Please, the Empire State Building was lit up in Scarlet before the famous Louisville game. I'm not saying immigrants from the Ukraine are suddenly gonna wear RU gear or even Rough NY Accent Joe on the Street but there are people there who would root for a local power and St. John's days as a power have passed.

And while it's not Houston or Dallas, people in New Jersey love football.

There we go with lighting up the Empire State Building... why is that such a Rutgers talking point - http://www.empirestatebuildingcolors.com/ it's lighted for something nearly every day. They also lighted the building for Syracuse FOOTBALL: https://m.facebook.com/notes/syracuse-un...377168408/ Syracuse BASKETBALL: http://www.chatsports.com/syracuse-orang...-2-7669503 and I won't even get into how many times it was lighted for UConn basketball.

Even UConn's horrible football program sold out tickets faster for it's home game with Michigan (the horrible Michigan) than Rutgers did for the Louisville game - case in point, no single game tickets were sold for UConn/Michigan @ East Hartford - every ticket was season or partial package. I work in the ticketing industry for a living - selling out without selling non-singles is the holy grail of an event.

And yet Uconn still on the outside looking in. Alot easier to sell out your smallish stadium than RU's. Especially in the boonies where there is nothing else to do. But hey, you've got all those BB trophies, right?

You say that like its a bad thing...

it is, and you know it. Ask your own fans. UCONN would sell it's mother (if it had one) or a few of those BB trophies to get out of the AAC. Don't kid yourself. You know it's true. All I hear about is how bad you guys want out. Heck, some of your fans are even talking about dropping football to get your BB team out of the AAC to save it. UCONN is in dire straits, and if it doesn't find a home in a P5 soon, you won't even have a basketball program to hang your hat on. Unfortunately for UCONN, CR is football driven, and UCONN is a non factor in football right now (no recruiting gounds, no large DMA, small fan base, poor performance right now, etc. etc. etc).

But, If ragging on RU makes the pain go away for a little while, then I guess you do what you have to do to make it feel better. But make no mistake, UCONN is in serious trouble if the status quo is maintained.

What's your point? Any school with that type of resume would blow up on a national level.

Since 1869, Rutgers has been a sleeping giant.

(05-06-2015 06:36 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Since 1869, Rutgers has been a sleeping giant.

You are being unfair...they won a fencing natty in 1947.

A friggin juggernaut handling the swords. Their lunges make SEC fencers cringe in fear.

(05-06-2015 04:39 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:45 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 11:04 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 09:58 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Rutgers has big potential and that's the biggest reason they were added. If you want to argue they can become a much stronger program than they are now, I have no argument. They are a program growing and will surprise people.

I think any chance of them getting to the level of an Ohio State, Michigan, or Texas even in those circumstances would be quite small however for a few reasons.

1. Those 3 are in college football crazed areas. Rutgers winning a national championship would be great and get attention in the their area, but the primary sports will remain professional meaning the value of success is much shorter lived.

2. There's a few schools which have become national stars despite not being something people live and die off of, but they tend to be in recruiting rich areas and generally also easier to bring in recruits from other areas. Miami is one example people think of. The one closer to Rutgers as an example to aspire to is USC. USC has big advantages that Rutgers doesn't though. It has much stronger local recruiting (New Jersey is good, but it is still no where near California level) and weather that will attract a lot. Without those, I don't see Rutgers being able to bring in the kind of classes a USC/Miami/etc generally do even after several successful seasons.

3. Consider several of the major schools. Big markets can help, but you have a lot like Nebraska and Oklahoma outside big population areas while you have many around much bigger populations who are much smaller. The same is true in basketball. This doesn't mean a big local population can't help, but it's only a factor.

They weren't added for potential...they were added to extort cable money from consumers in NJ.

Rutgers will always Rutgers.

Also, the power B1G schools will take most of the best of NJ for their FB teams.

Which at this point in time is a heck of a lot better than being Syracuse.....

Sorry Cuse actually makes a profit and isn't a NJ taxpayer Welfare case.

At least you can make fun of yourself - kudos....

BTW - Syracuse is a private institution - it better make a profit or won't be open long. RU is Public - very definition of a "public institution" is a welfare case.... I don't know of any "public" institutions that aren't supported by the taxpayers.

(05-06-2015 06:43 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 06:36 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Since 1869, Rutgers has been a sleeping giant.

A friggin juggernaut handling the swords. Their lunges make SEC fencers cringe in fear.

Lmao that's pretty funny!

(05-06-2015 04:37 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 03:24 PM)Strut Wrote:  Rutgers in the B1G is starting with a house that is already halfway built. The B1G alumni alone will purchase tickets in droves increasing revenue and interest significantly.

All Rutgers has to do is bring in their fan base with a decent recruiter in FB & BB and the other half of the house is built!

If Rutgers were a stock it wouldn't be bought any cheaper than now!

Any idea how many fans a team like UM brought to Rutgers last year?

Don't know how many were UM but did find this. It was third highest record crowd for Rutgers.

3 53,327 (sell-out)[21] Oct. 5, 2014 Rutgers 26, Michigan 24

And this is UM pre Harbaugh, the demand will be going through the roof for tickets. For comparison I couldn't believe how hard it was to get tickets to see Sparty vs Rutgers years ago when I lived there (went twice and paid more than double tickets face values.; and that's when neither team was at Top 10 level-- maybe Top 20 at best. I really think the pent up demand by tons of B1G alumni in the area is not properly understood by the masses yet.

(05-06-2015 12:49 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:32 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 08:35 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 10:30 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  1. Rutgers is in a football crazed area. There are stadiums literally within shouting distance of Manhattan that are just as nice as any high school stadium anywhere. The recruiting and fan base potential is there.

2. Rutgers does have NYC close by, which can be a recruiting tool.

3. The fact is if you're a big school and you win, especially in a market starved for a college home team to root for, it can be built from scratch.

There are several things wrong here. Rutgers is not in a football crazed area. I suspect you know as much from your second sentence. Most importantly, NYC is not a market starved for a college home team to root for. NYC has all the teams it needs for fans to root for in the Giants and the Jets. College football in Gotham is of great interest for one reason only. It's something to bet on. That doesn't require local teams, just local bookies. There are lots of those.

Please, the Empire State Building was lit up in Scarlet before the famous Louisville game. I'm not saying immigrants from the Ukraine are suddenly gonna wear RU gear or even Rough NY Accent Joe on the Street but there are people there who would root for a local power and St. John's days as a power have passed.

And while it's not Houston or Dallas, people in New Jersey love football.

There we go with lighting up the Empire State Building... why is that such a Rutgers talking point - http://www.empirestatebuildingcolors.com/ it's lighted for something nearly every day. They also lighted the building for Syracuse FOOTBALL: https://m.facebook.com/notes/syracuse-un...377168408/ Syracuse BASKETBALL: http://www.chatsports.com/syracuse-orang...-2-7669503 and I won't even get into how many times it was lighted for UConn basketball.

All I'm saying is that it shows that someone locally is paying attention, not that 11 million people in NYC and Long Island are potential RU fans.

(05-06-2015 07:26 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 04:39 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:45 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 11:04 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 09:58 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Rutgers has big potential and that's the biggest reason they were added. If you want to argue they can become a much stronger program than they are now, I have no argument. They are a program growing and will surprise people.

I think any chance of them getting to the level of an Ohio State, Michigan, or Texas even in those circumstances would be quite small however for a few reasons.

1. Those 3 are in college football crazed areas. Rutgers winning a national championship would be great and get attention in the their area, but the primary sports will remain professional meaning the value of success is much shorter lived.

2. There's a few schools which have become national stars despite not being something people live and die off of, but they tend to be in recruiting rich areas and generally also easier to bring in recruits from other areas. Miami is one example people think of. The one closer to Rutgers as an example to aspire to is USC. USC has big advantages that Rutgers doesn't though. It has much stronger local recruiting (New Jersey is good, but it is still no where near California level) and weather that will attract a lot. Without those, I don't see Rutgers being able to bring in the kind of classes a USC/Miami/etc generally do even after several successful seasons.

3. Consider several of the major schools. Big markets can help, but you have a lot like Nebraska and Oklahoma outside big population areas while you have many around much bigger populations who are much smaller. The same is true in basketball. This doesn't mean a big local population can't help, but it's only a factor.

They weren't added for potential...they were added to extort cable money from consumers in NJ.

Rutgers will always Rutgers.

Also, the power B1G schools will take most of the best of NJ for their FB teams.

Which at this point in time is a heck of a lot better than being Syracuse.....

Sorry Cuse actually makes a profit and isn't a NJ taxpayer Welfare case.

At least you can make fun of yourself - kudos....

BTW - Syracuse is a private institution - it better make a profit or won't be open long. RU is Public - very definition of a "public institution" is a welfare case.... I don't know of any "public" institutions that aren't supported by the taxpayers.

Glad you see that I treat this board as a diversion and like to mix in comedy as well as develop kinship with others here...I learn something everyday here.

You are welcomed to come by my tailgate anytime...fun fact RutgersAl has been to my tailgate...a great fan of Rutgers and a really nice guy.

(05-06-2015 04:39 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:14 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:07 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:49 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:32 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Please, the Empire State Building was lit up in Scarlet before the famous Louisville game. I'm not saying immigrants from the Ukraine are suddenly gonna wear RU gear or even Rough NY Accent Joe on the Street but there are people there who would root for a local power and St. John's days as a power have passed.

And while it's not Houston or Dallas, people in New Jersey love football.

There we go with lighting up the Empire State Building... why is that such a Rutgers talking point - http://www.empirestatebuildingcolors.com/ it's lighted for something nearly every day. They also lighted the building for Syracuse FOOTBALL: https://m.facebook.com/notes/syracuse-un...377168408/ Syracuse BASKETBALL: http://www.chatsports.com/syracuse-orang...-2-7669503 and I won't even get into how many times it was lighted for UConn basketball.

Even UConn's horrible football program sold out tickets faster for it's home game with Michigan (the horrible Michigan) than Rutgers did for the Louisville game - case in point, no single game tickets were sold for UConn/Michigan @ East Hartford - every ticket was season or partial package. I work in the ticketing industry for a living - selling out without selling non-singles is the holy grail of an event.

And yet Uconn still on the outside looking in. Alot easier to sell out your smallish stadium than RU's. Especially in the boonies where there is nothing else to do. But hey, you've got all those BB trophies, right?

You say that like its a bad thing...

it is, and you know it. Ask your own fans. UCONN would sell it's mother (if it had one) or a few of those BB trophies to get out of the AAC. Don't kid yourself. You know it's true. All I hear about is how bad you guys want out. Heck, some of your fans are even talking about dropping football to get your BB team out of the AAC to save it. UCONN is in dire straits, and if it doesn't find a home in a P5 soon, you won't even have a basketball program to hang your hat on. Unfortunately for UCONN, CR is football driven, and UCONN is a non factor in football right now (no recruiting gounds, no large DMA, small fan base, poor performance right now, etc. etc. etc).

But, If ragging on RU makes the pain go away for a little while, then I guess you do what you have to do to make it feel better. But make no mistake, UCONN is in serious trouble if the status quo is maintained.

So let me get this straight (because you didn't address anything I posted)....is winning nationals championships in basketball actually a bad thing?

No is arguing the rest of the drivel you posted. Mostly because no one was talking about it, but no kidding we aren't in a great position compared to 3 years ago. But you, as a fan of a school with an empty trophy case, mocked UConn for winning national championships as if it was a bad thing. I would love to hear more about that.

(05-06-2015 07:26 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 04:39 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:45 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 11:04 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 09:58 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Rutgers has big potential and that's the biggest reason they were added. If you want to argue they can become a much stronger program than they are now, I have no argument. They are a program growing and will surprise people.

I think any chance of them getting to the level of an Ohio State, Michigan, or Texas even in those circumstances would be quite small however for a few reasons.

1. Those 3 are in college football crazed areas. Rutgers winning a national championship would be great and get attention in the their area, but the primary sports will remain professional meaning the value of success is much shorter lived.

2. There's a few schools which have become national stars despite not being something people live and die off of, but they tend to be in recruiting rich areas and generally also easier to bring in recruits from other areas. Miami is one example people think of. The one closer to Rutgers as an example to aspire to is USC. USC has big advantages that Rutgers doesn't though. It has much stronger local recruiting (New Jersey is good, but it is still no where near California level) and weather that will attract a lot. Without those, I don't see Rutgers being able to bring in the kind of classes a USC/Miami/etc generally do even after several successful seasons.

3. Consider several of the major schools. Big markets can help, but you have a lot like Nebraska and Oklahoma outside big population areas while you have many around much bigger populations who are much smaller. The same is true in basketball. This doesn't mean a big local population can't help, but it's only a factor.

They weren't added for potential...they were added to extort cable money from consumers in NJ.

Rutgers will always Rutgers.

Also, the power B1G schools will take most of the best of NJ for their FB teams.

Which at this point in time is a heck of a lot better than being Syracuse.....

Sorry Cuse actually makes a profit and isn't a NJ taxpayer Welfare case.

At least you can make fun of yourself - kudos....

BTW - Syracuse is a private institution - it better make a profit or won't be open long. RU is Public - very definition of a "public institution" is a welfare case.... I don't know of any "public" institutions that aren't supported by the taxpayers.

LSU won't be much supported at all by the taxpayers if Bobby Jindal's latest cuts go through this legislative session.

I doubt they will (he is hugely unpopular and a lame duck) but if so, LSU would only receive 3% of its funding from the State of Louisiana.

That is not a typo..three percent.

At that point, an option might be to go private like Tulane did.

That would be terrible for Louisiana.

(05-06-2015 04:39 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:14 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:07 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:49 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:32 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Please, the Empire State Building was lit up in Scarlet before the famous Louisville game. I'm not saying immigrants from the Ukraine are suddenly gonna wear RU gear or even Rough NY Accent Joe on the Street but there are people there who would root for a local power and St. John's days as a power have passed.

And while it's not Houston or Dallas, people in New Jersey love football.

There we go with lighting up the Empire State Building... why is that such a Rutgers talking point - http://www.empirestatebuildingcolors.com/ it's lighted for something nearly every day. They also lighted the building for Syracuse FOOTBALL: https://m.facebook.com/notes/syracuse-un...377168408/ Syracuse BASKETBALL: http://www.chatsports.com/syracuse-orang...-2-7669503 and I won't even get into how many times it was lighted for UConn basketball.

Even UConn's horrible football program sold out tickets faster for it's home game with Michigan (the horrible Michigan) than Rutgers did for the Louisville game - case in point, no single game tickets were sold for UConn/Michigan @ East Hartford - every ticket was season or partial package. I work in the ticketing industry for a living - selling out without selling non-singles is the holy grail of an event.

And yet Uconn still on the outside looking in. Alot easier to sell out your smallish stadium than RU's. Especially in the boonies where there is nothing else to do. But hey, you've got all those BB trophies, right?

You say that like its a bad thing...

it is, and you know it. Ask your own fans. UCONN would sell it's mother (if it had one) or a few of those BB trophies to get out of the AAC. Don't kid yourself. You know it's true. All I hear about is how bad you guys want out. Heck, some of your fans are even talking about dropping football to get your BB team out of the AAC to save it. UCONN is in dire straits, and if it doesn't find a home in a P5 soon, you won't even have a basketball program to hang your hat on. Unfortunately for UCONN, CR is football driven, and UCONN is a non factor in football right now (no recruiting gounds, no large DMA, small fan base, poor performance right now, etc. etc. etc).

But, If ragging on RU makes the pain go away for a little while, then I guess you do what you have to do to make it feel better. But make no mistake, UCONN is in serious trouble if the status quo is maintained.

I'm speaking more as an Ohio State fan - but one who has seen a lot of Rutgers. The Big 10 made a mistake bringing in Rutgers. Our league got killed up until the end of the year when we won a title last year. We had to humiliate Wisconsin just to get into the playoff. If we had waited to bring in another P5 with Maryland, it would have made more sense. Instead we got a middle-of-the-pack Big East football school with a lot of baggage in their sports department. The minute "cord-cutting" picks up momentum, half of North NJ will dump B10N and the ones in the metro area who keep it - most are just sports fans, not Rutgers fans.

Rutgers fans are as delusional about their football program as UConn fans were five years ago about football. The "high rankings" (South Florida was ranked 5th mid-season once I believe?), UConn playing in a BCS game... they were products of being in a league with West Virginia, Louisville and no one else. Rutgers had years to become a Big East power but they were only marginally better than UConn during that tenure, let alone West Virginia or Louisville (take away the first two seasons after Petrino and Louisville was dominant their last decade in the Big East).

Poor facilities, basketball coach who abused players, another who lied about degrees, women's coach trashing her facility, AD putting her foot in the mouth, an atrocious start in the Big 10 aside from football which was thanks to a piss-poor schedule. Most famous alumni in the NFL is Ray Rice. Not a good move.

As for UConn, they probably don't have the football ceiling of Rutgers. But they do have 14 national titles in basketball combined since 1995 and a couple in field hockey and soccer. They've produced George Springer, Ray Allen, Anthony Sherman... another first rounder in the NFL draft this year in CT product Byron Jones. As an Ohio State fan, I don't want them in the Big 10 - I wanted VA Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, Missouri, etc... not UConn, not Rutgers.

(05-07-2015 06:44 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 04:39 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:14 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:07 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:49 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  There we go with lighting up the Empire State Building... why is that such a Rutgers talking point - http://www.empirestatebuildingcolors.com/ it's lighted for something nearly every day. They also lighted the building for Syracuse FOOTBALL: https://m.facebook.com/notes/syracuse-un...377168408/ Syracuse BASKETBALL: http://www.chatsports.com/syracuse-orang...-2-7669503 and I won't even get into how many times it was lighted for UConn basketball.

Even UConn's horrible football program sold out tickets faster for it's home game with Michigan (the horrible Michigan) than Rutgers did for the Louisville game - case in point, no single game tickets were sold for UConn/Michigan @ East Hartford - every ticket was season or partial package. I work in the ticketing industry for a living - selling out without selling non-singles is the holy grail of an event.

And yet Uconn still on the outside looking in. Alot easier to sell out your smallish stadium than RU's. Especially in the boonies where there is nothing else to do. But hey, you've got all those BB trophies, right?

You say that like its a bad thing...

it is, and you know it. Ask your own fans. UCONN would sell it's mother (if it had one) or a few of those BB trophies to get out of the AAC. Don't kid yourself. You know it's true. All I hear about is how bad you guys want out. Heck, some of your fans are even talking about dropping football to get your BB team out of the AAC to save it. UCONN is in dire straits, and if it doesn't find a home in a P5 soon, you won't even have a basketball program to hang your hat on. Unfortunately for UCONN, CR is football driven, and UCONN is a non factor in football right now (no recruiting gounds, no large DMA, small fan base, poor performance right now, etc. etc. etc).

But, If ragging on RU makes the pain go away for a little while, then I guess you do what you have to do to make it feel better. But make no mistake, UCONN is in serious trouble if the status quo is maintained.

So let me get this straight (because you didn't address anything I posted)....is winning nationals championships in basketball actually a bad thing?

No is arguing the rest of the drivel you posted. Mostly because no one was talking about it, but no kidding we aren't in a great position compared to 3 years ago. But you, as a fan of a school with an empty trophy case, mocked UConn for winning national championships as if it was a bad thing. I would love to hear more about that.

No you don't get it. You keep ragging on RU because we didn't win that or didn't win this. You won all those trophies, and WHERE are you???? It ain't bad that you won them, and good for you. I could care less. But to continuously hear UCONN folks say, "but we won this and we won that", why is Butgers in the B1G and not us??? gets old. If UCONN were a great catch, someone would have taken you - point is, all the trophies don't make you a great catch.....

(05-07-2015 12:54 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-07-2015 06:44 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 04:39 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:14 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:07 PM)penguino Wrote:  And yet Uconn still on the outside looking in. Alot easier to sell out your smallish stadium than RU's. Especially in the boonies where there is nothing else to do. But hey, you've got all those BB trophies, right?

You say that like its a bad thing...

it is, and you know it. Ask your own fans. UCONN would sell it's mother (if it had one) or a few of those BB trophies to get out of the AAC. Don't kid yourself. You know it's true. All I hear about is how bad you guys want out. Heck, some of your fans are even talking about dropping football to get your BB team out of the AAC to save it. UCONN is in dire straits, and if it doesn't find a home in a P5 soon, you won't even have a basketball program to hang your hat on. Unfortunately for UCONN, CR is football driven, and UCONN is a non factor in football right now (no recruiting gounds, no large DMA, small fan base, poor performance right now, etc. etc. etc).

But, If ragging on RU makes the pain go away for a little while, then I guess you do what you have to do to make it feel better. But make no mistake, UCONN is in serious trouble if the status quo is maintained.

So let me get this straight (because you didn't address anything I posted)....is winning nationals championships in basketball actually a bad thing?

No is arguing the rest of the drivel you posted. Mostly because no one was talking about it, but no kidding we aren't in a great position compared to 3 years ago. But you, as a fan of a school with an empty trophy case, mocked UConn for winning national championships as if it was a bad thing. I would love to hear more about that.

No you don't get it. You keep ragging on RU because we didn't win that or didn't win this. You won all those trophies, and WHERE are you???? It ain't bad that you won them, and good for you. I could care less. But to continuously hear UCONN folks say, "but we won this and we won that", why is Butgers in the B1G and not us??? gets old. If UCONN were a great catch, someone would have taken you - point is, all the trophies don't make you a great catch.....

I get it perfectly. I'm still not going to let you downplay UConn's accomplishments as a Rutgers fan.

FYI, I haven't ragged on RU. I posted about your trophy case to point out the hypocrisy of you trying to downplay UConn's accomplishments.

(05-07-2015 08:35 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 04:39 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:14 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:07 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:49 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  There we go with lighting up the Empire State Building... why is that such a Rutgers talking point - http://www.empirestatebuildingcolors.com/ it's lighted for something nearly every day. They also lighted the building for Syracuse FOOTBALL: https://m.facebook.com/notes/syracuse-un...377168408/ Syracuse BASKETBALL: http://www.chatsports.com/syracuse-orang...-2-7669503 and I won't even get into how many times it was lighted for UConn basketball.

Even UConn's horrible football program sold out tickets faster for it's home game with Michigan (the horrible Michigan) than Rutgers did for the Louisville game - case in point, no single game tickets were sold for UConn/Michigan @ East Hartford - every ticket was season or partial package. I work in the ticketing industry for a living - selling out without selling non-singles is the holy grail of an event.

And yet Uconn still on the outside looking in. Alot easier to sell out your smallish stadium than RU's. Especially in the boonies where there is nothing else to do. But hey, you've got all those BB trophies, right?

You say that like its a bad thing...

it is, and you know it. Ask your own fans. UCONN would sell it's mother (if it had one) or a few of those BB trophies to get out of the AAC. Don't kid yourself. You know it's true. All I hear about is how bad you guys want out. Heck, some of your fans are even talking about dropping football to get your BB team out of the AAC to save it. UCONN is in dire straits, and if it doesn't find a home in a P5 soon, you won't even have a basketball program to hang your hat on. Unfortunately for UCONN, CR is football driven, and UCONN is a non factor in football right now (no recruiting gounds, no large DMA, small fan base, poor performance right now, etc. etc. etc).

But, If ragging on RU makes the pain go away for a little while, then I guess you do what you have to do to make it feel better. But make no mistake, UCONN is in serious trouble if the status quo is maintained.

I'm speaking more as an Ohio State fan - but one who has seen a lot of Rutgers. The Big 10 made a mistake bringing in Rutgers. Our league got killed up until the end of the year when we won a title last year. We had to humiliate Wisconsin just to get into the playoff. If we had waited to bring in another P5 with Maryland, it would have made more sense. Instead we got a middle-of-the-pack Big East football school with a lot of baggage in their sports department. The minute "cord-cutting" picks up momentum, half of North NJ will dump B10N and the ones in the metro area who keep it - most are just sports fans, not Rutgers fans.

Rutgers fans are as delusional about their football program as UConn fans were five years ago about football. The "high rankings" (South Florida was ranked 5th mid-season once I believe?), UConn playing in a BCS game... they were products of being in a league with West Virginia, Louisville and no one else. Rutgers had years to become a Big East power but they were only marginally better than UConn during that tenure, let alone West Virginia or Louisville (take away the first two seasons after Petrino and Louisville was dominant their last decade in the Big East).

Poor facilities, basketball coach who abused players, another who lied about degrees, women's coach trashing her facility, AD putting her foot in the mouth, an atrocious start in the Big 10 aside from football which was thanks to a piss-poor schedule. Most famous alumni in the NFL is Ray Rice. Not a good move.

As for UConn, they probably don't have the football ceiling of Rutgers. But they do have 14 national titles in basketball combined since 1995 and a couple in field hockey and soccer. They've produced George Springer, Ray Allen, Anthony Sherman... another first rounder in the NFL draft this year in CT product Byron Jones. As an Ohio State fan, I don't want them in the Big 10 - I wanted VA Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, Missouri, etc... not UConn, not Rutgers.

Piss poor schedule? I guess playing Ohio St, Michigan St, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Michigan, Maryland, Penn St and North Carolina in a bowl is piss poor? Never thought I hear an Ohio St fan include their team in a piss poor scheduling discussion. To be honest, your schedule for 2014 (other than the college football playoffs) wasn't any better than RU's - we both played Navy, we added Wash St, Tulane and Howard, You played Kent st, VT & Cincinnati.....But your in conference games from the west included Illinois and Minnesota. So to say the schedule was piss poor for RU is a little ridiculous. No we aren't world beaters and no one ever said we are or will be, and yeah you kicked our butts. But your suppose to - your Ohio St, and we're just "Butgers".....but the schedule didn't really suck much more than your regular season schedule did......I'm OK with your not being happy RU is in the B1G, If I was an OU fan, I probably wouldn't be either. But at least be honest when you discuss facts.....PS - I won't even get into the NCAA sanctions against Ohio St. everybody knows what you guys did. As for Ray Rice, well, you have Maurice Clarett....and Ray did those things well after he graduated and no one I know defended him. On the other hand, MC was in school and was dismissed.......Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

How did this become a debate about UConn?

Boss Hijack strikes again.

(05-07-2015 01:48 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  How did this become a debate about UConn?

Boss Hijack strikes again.

Don't you get it, it's always about UCONN somehow, and then it degenerates into knocking Rutgers......

Let's say Urban Meyer or Nick Saban were head coach at Rutgers I think that they clean pick NJ, whole NE corridor plus cherry pick 5 star recruits nationally much like they do currently. Overnight Rutgers would be perennially nationally relevant top 10 team.

Completely different spin, let's say Calipari goes to Rutgers, he'd clean pick NYC, whole NE corridor plus cherry pick 5 star recruits nationally much like he's done wherever he's gone. Overnight Rutgers would be perennially nationally relevant top 5 team.

With the money Rutgers will have to spend they would probably see a decent ROI even if they had to pay Alabama , Ohio State, or Kentucky like money for HC plus a few staffers. My point is Rutgers proximity to NYC makes it very attractive for lucrative endorsements for coaches, plus would give players a much higher profile for them to have future endorsements if they win anything close to where the coaches are currently.

For comparison, look at where the same schools were before those coaches came. Also consider what Michigan looks like pre-Harbaugh and just for a moment what would Duke look like minus Coach K. All I'm saying is one right move and the sleeping giant is awakened.

Looks like Rutgers will never be great. They are too busy worrying about having transgendered unisex minotaur unicorn of mixed hispanic, chinese, turkish, samoan, black, indian, and aztec descent as their mascot.

Warning: An article that seems like it should be in the Onion but isn't ahead: http://www.my9nj.com/story/29005084/mascot-drama