Its true that we've only done it for one yr.

AAC fans wont admit that they have some programs at the bottom that have been stuck in a rut.

Saw once where the CUSA defectors have to make up any shortfall encountered wit CUSA3's new TV deal?

For 2015 I like the Herd, WKU, LT, UTEP and MT to hold up CUSA again. But we have some struggling teams also just like Marshall 2005-2011.

Even lots of Marshall fans don't give CUSA enough credit. I think we were ahead in the BCS computers used to figure CFP money till Boise beat Arizona.

And MT, ODU, Charlotte, LT and WKU new teams added with better BB tradition than some that bailed out.

(05-05-2015 09:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  i love how MUHERD76 has made permant future power rankings of a 1 year sample size...off of computer rankings (how the money is spilt) that are based around and value p5 teams

aka the rankings doesn't value our wins but punishes our losses. playing a good g5 team you win you only move up 4 spots you lose you fall 40...

funny enough youd use these ranking to justify C-usa dominance for longed dominance, but if i said the FCS conference the MVC was better thaan c-usa youd laugh your way out the door, but the computers ranked them the second best non power conference ..by your words "seeing those numbers just further increases my belief that MVC will continue to battle the MWC for the top G5 football conference for many years to come."

the mac would have been #1 2 years ago when niu and kent state were ranked, i doubt youd have them ranked higher than c-usa and how they were going to be battling for the top on most years ....
i look forward to the year the sunbelt gets a higher ranking than c-usa (which will eventually happen, when 1 of there teams runs through their league) and uses this same argument of a 1 year sample size to state how theyre forever better and how you "added a bunch of "dud" programs located in major metropolitan areas". which is almost an identical argument that can be made for your sunbelt addidtions.
the funny thing is the aac will be ranked higher on most year as marshall wont be 13-1 on most years carrying c-usa ranking and you're basically inviting aac fans to come back and throw this in your face when it happens

(05-05-2015 07:49 AM)RedParallax Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 07:35 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 06:37 AM)RedParallax Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 11:36 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 09:14 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  I wasn't throwing shade at the AAC. It's understandable why they lost money. The AAC would have lost money even if they had a team in the Access Bowl slot this past season. Losing BCS status clearly hurt them.

So what's your point?

Also, why doesn't this table show revenue from our TV deal, or the 100 million retained from the big east deal during that year, or the significant NCAA credits?

While CUSA did receive a higher payout from the CFP, it is important to note, primarily, the TV revenue difference. As the last decade or so has shown, TV money is where the majority of revenues lie and is the primary reason for a lot of the conference realignment moves of late.

I was pretty surprised to see that CUSA received a higher CFP payout, though. Any CUSA or AAC fan know why this is the case? Was the CFP payout determined before conference realignment? I assume any realignment would result in immediate renegotiation of CFP payouts, but what the hell do I know.

The reason CUSA's payout was higher is because CUSA was rated as the better football league last year.

So payout is determined by rating of quality?

To an extent. The g5 as a group gets 75 million to split among the 5 conferences. The g5 agreed to split the money into 3 pools. One pool is divided evenly. It provides 1 million per team to each conference with a cap of 12 million. A second pool of money, 4 million, is given to the conference that wins the G5 access bowl slot (MW this year). Whats left is the third pool of money---about 11 million. This pool is divided by performance. It is divided into 15 equal shares. The top G5 conference gets 5 shares, the second gets 4 shares, third place gets 3 shares, etc...

(05-04-2015 11:09 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 10:22 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Couldn't the same basically be said for the F_U's and perhaps the UNTs?

at least we have markets; what do the back-water UL-X's have going for them....crayfish and swamp-buggies?

Well, since you asked.

Cajun home opener against FCS Southern University


FAU home opener as new member of C-USA


FIU game against P5 Pittsburgh


You guys can keep your markets. We're doing fine with crayfish and swamp-buggies.

(05-05-2015 10:03 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  To an extent. The g5 as a group gets 75 million to split among the 5 conferences. The g5 agreed to split the money into 3 pools. One pool is divided evenly. It provides 1 million per team to each conference with a cap of 12 million. A second pool of money, 4 million, is given to the conference that wins the G5 access bowl slot (MW this year). Whats left is the third pool of money---about 11 million. This pool is divided by performance. It is divided into 15 equal shares. The top G5 conference gets 5 shares, the second gets 4 shares, third place gets 3 shares, etc...

Well explained, however the G5 pay-out was around $81.1M or about $6M greater than expected. The MW appears to have grabbed the lions-share of that extra cash because according to your formula they were initially entitiled to about $19.7M (12 + 4 + ((11/15)*5)). So they got another $3.8M of the remaining $6M.....wonder how that was determined. Probably got more like $6M for the AB selection; which makes up $2M of the $3.8 in question, then the split got them the rest. Something like that.

(05-05-2015 10:25 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  FIU game against P5 Pittsburgh
You guys can keep your markets. We're doing fine with crayfish and swamp-buggies.

Late arriving crowd for a 12:00 pm kick-off, esp. out in the student section. If they're not in the parking lot, they're probably still in bed.

(05-05-2015 09:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  i look forward to the year the sunbelt gets a higher ranking than c-usa (which will eventually happen............

Happened in 2013 when you guys were still AQ. Belt finished first, MWC second, C-USA third, and MAC brought up the rear. Just look at the payouts in that same chart posted for the evidence.

(05-05-2015 10:49 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 10:25 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  FIU game against P5 Pittsburgh
You guys can keep your markets. We're doing fine with crayfish and swamp-buggies.

Late arriving crowd for a 12:00 pm kick-off, esp. out in the student section. If they're not in the parking lot, they're probably still in bed.

The Miami paper I lifted the photo from said there were a total of 3,000 human beings at that game.

(05-05-2015 10:53 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  The Miami paper I lifted the photo from said there were a total of 3,000 human beings at that game.

10,147 was the reported attendance for that game.

(05-05-2015 09:49 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  While CUSA did have a good year last year, before beating our chests, lets see how we fair this year.

(05-05-2015 09:49 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  CUSA and the AAC will battle for 2nd and 3rd while the MAC and SBC battle for 4th and 5th. Thats just the way it will be for the next couple of years.

So much for not beating your chest.

(05-05-2015 11:02 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 10:53 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  The Miami paper I lifted the photo from said there were a total of 3,000 human beings at that game.

10,147 was the reported attendance for that game.

I know what the reported attendance was, I was just relaying what the Miami paper said...........that there were 3,000 souls in attendance. Which would you believe? The reported attendance or your lying eyes?

(05-05-2015 11:24 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 11:02 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 10:53 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  The Miami paper I lifted the photo from said there were a total of 3,000 human beings at that game.

10,147 was the reported attendance for that game.

I know what the reported attendance was, I was just relaying what the Miami paper said...........that there were 3,000 souls in attendance. Which would you believe? The reported attendance or your lying eyes?

Are you really here to talk attendance smack to the FL schools? You can go on over to the MAC board, I hear there's some schools with really bad attendance there. Without looking I'm assuming ULL's attendance is well over 30K with the way you're bragging about it.

(05-05-2015 11:36 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 11:24 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 11:02 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 10:53 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  The Miami paper I lifted the photo from said there were a total of 3,000 human beings at that game.

10,147 was the reported attendance for that game.

I know what the reported attendance was, I was just relaying what the Miami paper said...........that there were 3,000 souls in attendance. Which would you believe? The reported attendance or your lying eyes?

Are you really here to talk attendance smack to the FL schools? You can go on over to the MAC board, I hear there's some schools with really bad attendance there. Without looking I'm assuming ULL's attendance is well over 30K with the way you're bragging about it.

No, not here to talk attendance smack at all. I was merely supporting my comments in reference to this post which seemed to be taking a shot at the AAC:

(05-04-2015 09:51 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Ouch.

Folks.....this is what happens when you add a bunch of "dud" programs located in major metropolitan areas that nobody cares about.

I asked if the programs at FAU, FIU, and perhaps the UNTs couldn't be classified in a similar fashion. Attendance data certainly seems to bear that out for the former two. I've not looked at what the UNTs have done recently.

If you'd like to argue otherwise, please do, though I still believe the quoted post is sort of tossing stones while living in a glass house.

(05-05-2015 11:19 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 09:49 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  While CUSA did have a good year last year, before beating our chests, lets see how we fair this year.

(05-05-2015 09:49 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  CUSA and the AAC will battle for 2nd and 3rd while the MAC and SBC battle for 4th and 5th. Thats just the way it will be for the next couple of years.

So much for not beating your chest.

I wasn't beating my chest. Other than GS, sunbelt was terrible this year and GS was only good not great. I don't see any chance for the SBC suckiness to change any time soon. The MAC also was really bad this last year but with NIU they have a chance to be better. When a FCS transition school wins your conference, you know your conference is bad.

2013 CUSA sucked and turned it around in 1 year, I can't see the SBC turning it around unless all the other G5's turn into crap teams all at once.

The bottom line is that the plus-one model has put more money in everyone's pocket than the BCS did. Well, everyone except for Cincinnati, Connecticut and South Florida.

East Carolina, Tulsa and Tulane went from sharing $2.9 million 14 ways to sharing $15.2 million 11 ways (soon to be 12).
Houston, Memphis, SMU, Temple and UCF had a brief bump in 13-14, but are still better off than they were for the bulk of the the BCS' existence.

If we could get the damn thing expanded to 8 teams there would be much more money to be made.

(05-05-2015 12:14 PM)Cscollis Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 11:19 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 09:49 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  While CUSA did have a good year last year, before beating our chests, lets see how we fair this year.

(05-05-2015 09:49 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  CUSA and the AAC will battle for 2nd and 3rd while the MAC and SBC battle for 4th and 5th. Thats just the way it will be for the next couple of years.

So much for not beating your chest.

I wasn't beating my chest. Other than GS, sunbelt was terrible this year and GS was only good not great. I don't see any chance for the SBC suckiness to change any time soon. The MAC also was really bad this last year but with NIU they have a chance to be better. When a FCS transition school wins your conference, you know your conference is bad.

2013 CUSA sucked and turned it around in 1 year, I can't see the SBC turning it around unless all the other G5's turn into crap teams all at once.

And in 2013 the Sunbelt was at the top of the heap and in one year was terrible as you've said so it can happen to anybody, no? Might be best to just take your own advice.....lets see how we fair this year.......before proclaiming who's going to compete for 2nd versus 3rd. We really don't know.

(05-05-2015 12:32 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 12:14 PM)Cscollis Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 11:19 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 09:49 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  While CUSA did have a good year last year, before beating our chests, lets see how we fair this year.

(05-05-2015 09:49 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  CUSA and the AAC will battle for 2nd and 3rd while the MAC and SBC battle for 4th and 5th. Thats just the way it will be for the next couple of years.

So much for not beating your chest.

I wasn't beating my chest. Other than GS, sunbelt was terrible this year and GS was only good not great. I don't see any chance for the SBC suckiness to change any time soon. The MAC also was really bad this last year but with NIU they have a chance to be better. When a FCS transition school wins your conference, you know your conference is bad.

2013 CUSA sucked and turned it around in 1 year, I can't see the SBC turning it around unless all the other G5's turn into crap teams all at once.

And in 2013 the Sunbelt was at the top of the heap and in one year was terrible as you've said so it can happen to anybody, no? Might be best to just take your own advice.....lets see how we fair this year.......before proclaiming who's going to compete for 2nd versus 3rd. We really don't know.

Adding ID and NMST had a lot to do with that

(05-05-2015 11:24 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 11:02 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 10:53 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  The Miami paper I lifted the photo from said there were a total of 3,000 human beings at that game.

10,147 was the reported attendance for that game.

I know what the reported attendance was, I was just relaying what the Miami paper said...........that there were 3,000 souls in attendance. Which would you believe? The reported attendance or your lying eyes?

Depends on whether you're using the U of Miami Herald as your source or not.

(05-05-2015 12:14 PM)Cscollis Wrote:  I wasn't beating my chest. Other than GS, sunbelt was terrible this year and GS was only good not great. I don't see any chance for the SBC suckiness to change any time soon. The MAC also was really bad this last year but with NIU they have a chance to be better. When a FCS transition school wins your conference, you know your conference is bad.

2013 CUSA sucked and turned it around in 1 year, I can't see the SBC turning it around unless all the other G5's turn into crap teams all at once.

That chart convinced me that a move to CUSA would be worth it for GS...if the opportunity ever came. Would love to play Marshall and ODU once again.

(05-05-2015 01:19 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 11:24 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 11:02 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 10:53 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  The Miami paper I lifted the photo from said there were a total of 3,000 human beings at that game.

10,147 was the reported attendance for that game.

I know what the reported attendance was, I was just relaying what the Miami paper said...........that there were 3,000 souls in attendance. Which would you believe? The reported attendance or your lying eyes?

Depends on whether you're using the U of Miami Herald as your source or not.

Okay, ya got me, it was the Miami Herald, sort of. The story where I found the photos is actually out of Kentucky....shortly before you guys played Louisville. Seems they were having some fun at your expense.

Quote:Louisville at FIU -- bring your own potato salad and crowd noise


LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) – Want to know what a crowd of 10,147 looks like at an FBS football game?

Me, too. I wish that I could show you. I can't.

What I am showing you are several pictures from the crowd at the football game that Pittsburgh played at Florida International last Saturday. FIU announced that crowd as a gathering of – cough -- 10,147.

If that's the truth, I want the folks from FIU counting the loose change in my desk drawer. I'd have enough for a new top-of-the-line Lexus – or two.

FIU Stadium seats 20,000. Using the school's crowd estimators, a full house would have been closer to 101,470. Instead of 10,147, I'll go with the Miami Herald estimate:

About 3,000.

For a game matching an Atlantic Coast Conference team against a Conference USA program.

http://www.wdrb.com/story/26537522/bozic...rowd-noise

Here's another shot of the crowd during the Pitt game. Dunno FIUFan, the Herald might even have been generous at 3,000.