(04-29-2015 10:02 PM)1845 Bear Wrote: (04-29-2015 09:56 PM)omniorange Wrote: (04-29-2015 09:49 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: (04-29-2015 09:47 PM)1845 Bear Wrote: (04-29-2015 09:39 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: Yes, they could but why would any of the Majors vote for that? What would compel them to help out the big 12 like that while not gaining anything themselves out of such an action. What could the big 12 give them?
Since they are all in autonomy decisions together it's easy to envision a "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" situation regarding a different big issue that could impact recruiting, playoff selection, etc where the Big 12 schools could be key swing votes.
That's a very generalized response. It is not surprising that you had to answer in such a way because it would be extremely hard to come up with exact actions and details.
I still await someone coming up with such.
Well one possibility is that had the B12 been allowed a CCG last year with a 10 team conference, then Baylor or TCU would have had a second loss on their resume. So, it ensures the likelihood that only one gets in instead of two had let's say Oregon lost to Arizona and FSU lost to GT.
Just food for thought.
Cheers,
Neil
It's another chance for the league to cannibalize itself. Not only could it knock a second team out of the playoff it could also take out the ONLY contender some years OR eliminate the lower ranked team from the NYD6 potentially in certain years.
My reply has more to do with what would the SEC and B1G gain by supporting this hypothetical B12 championship game with them only having 10 teams.
So assuming everything else is equal to last year but the addition of this hypothetical B12 CCG - if Alabama wins, Ohio State wins, Oregon wins, and FSU wins, the winner of TCU/Baylor is likely in over Ohio State. But each of the CFP 4 are conference champions with zero or 1 loss.
If Alabama wins, Ohio State wins, and Oregon wins, but FSU loses, the winner of TCU/Baylor is in over FSU. Again, each of the CFP 4 are conference champions with zero or 1 loss.
If Alabama wins, Ohio State wins, Oregon loses and FSU loses, the winner of this hypothetical B12 championship game between TCU/Baylor gets in. Three are in as conference champions with 1 loss. But who is the 4th team?
Arizona? GT? as conference champions? Possibly. But it's not a guarantee. Ole Miss, Michigan State, and the loser of TCU/Baylor get some consideration for that 4th spot now, even though they are not conference champions.
So my point is that
without that hypothetical B12 CCG, if Oregon loses and FSU loses BOTH TCU and Baylor get in despite not winning that 13th championship game.
Which stings more? Two teams getting in without having to play the 13th game and only having 1 loss? Or a somewhat equal playing field whereby all conference champions with zero or 1 loss are given more weight than conference champions with 2 losses and regular season teams with 2 losses?
I honestly don't know. I'm just putting it out there as I said - food for thought.
Cheers,
Neil