(05-02-2015 08:05 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(05-02-2015 03:43 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(05-02-2015 03:13 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  Move Auburn to the east and swap with Mizzou...much cleaner. The issue is Bama does not want to give up annual game against AU or TN, which is why that did not happen.

The rivalry with Tennessee is such a farce.

Yes it is.

For balance sake, the one between Ohio State and Illinois is even more of a farce.

(05-02-2015 03:13 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  Move Auburn to the east and swap with Mizzou...much cleaner. The issue is Bama does not want to give up annual game against AU or TN, which is why that did not happen.

Move both Auburn and Bama to the east, move Vandy and Mizzou to the west division.

If they did that, they could eliminate the "permanent crossover" games, maybe keeping just one permanent matchup (Vandy-Tenn) like the Big Ten does.

Big 12 spring meeting today. Here is a Twitter tweet

Quote:Max Olson
26m26 minutes ago
Max Olson ‏@max_olson
Bob Bowlsby: Big 12 ADs unanimous they will stick with 9-game round robin scheduling model.

Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 32m32 minutes ago
Bowlsby: I've heard no interest in expansion as a means to deal with the championship issue


Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 11m11 minutes ago
In football, Big 12 two-way tiebreaker will be head-to-head. Three-way (or more) was the hold up. Sound like it's close to settled.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 12m12 minutes ago
Total sidebar but if you're a fan of BYU-Cincy-Memphis-UConn-UCF Bowlsby was clear that expansion isn't happening. Big 12 very dug in at 10

(05-05-2015 06:08 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 32m32 minutes ago
Bowlsby: I've heard no interest in expansion as a means to deal with the championship issue


Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 11m11 minutes ago
In football, Big 12 two-way tiebreaker will be head-to-head. Three-way (or more) was the hold up. Sound like it's close to settled.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 12m12 minutes ago
Total sidebar but if you're a fan of BYU-Cincy-Memphis-UConn-UCF Bowlsby was clear that expansion isn't happening. Big 12 very dug in at 10

So other words Big 12 will never be in the playoffs next year.

The big 12 can get into the playoffs. Their problem is that the other four majors depend upon their teams winning in order for them to make it into the playoff. That was evident last season. What the big 12 has to depend upon in order to get in is that they have to depend upon losses by equivalent teams in the other major conferences.

That is not a situation of parity.

The lack of a 13th game would be a problem. That is why Ohio State jumped over both TCU and Baylor. I would have loved to see TCU in the playoffs since they were ranked higher than others. FSU was weak for the last 2 years that the whole ACC was weaker than they were.

Funny thing is this: If Texas was on the outside looking in like TCU and Baylor were last year, not only would the Big 12 expanded, but they would have a championship game too.

Let's stop beating around the bush here and just say that Texas does not want to expand and does not want a championship game.

In regards to the playoffs, a Big 12 team can make it in especially if no one in the ACC has a special year. The Big 12's strength of schedule is usually pretty decent year after year.

I just cannot wrap my head around the other P5 conferences allowing the Big12 to stay at 10 members and thereby take home a per program CFP share of about $6.5Mil when the programs in the other P5 leagues are each taking home an average of about $4.6Mil based on dividing a similar portion of the pie as many as 14 ways. That nearly $2Mil/year advantage is too large. I realize the other leagues (except the ACC) have additional income from their own networks, but I dont think they'd just concede this type of funding advantage. They're just too greedy and competitive.

It seems ludicrous to debate, but any chance the CFP payout gets adjusted to eliminate the advantage in return for allowing the Big12 to continue on @10? The extra money could be thrown back in the pool and distributed to everyone, including the G5.

(05-02-2015 01:37 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(05-02-2015 01:15 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-02-2015 12:41 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(05-02-2015 12:37 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

Exactly.

No one thinks in terms of geography using swirling lines.

Cheers,
Neil

I like using maps to illustrate points. I thought this one illustrated yours nicely.

Yes, visual is best. Thanks for the assist.

Cheers,
Neil

Using this map, the ACC's wacky divisions, don't look much different (prior to the Louisville for Maryland swap). You can draw the same wavy line, and make it makes sense.