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RE: Pluto -New Horizons Mission (Pluto and to Kuiper Belt afterwards!)
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Quote:Full Trajectory: Side View

This image shows New Horizons' current position along its full planned trajectory. The green segment of the line shows where New Horizons has traveled since launch; the red indicates the spacecraft's future path. Positions of stars with magnitude 12 or brighter are shown from this perspective, which is slightly above the orbital plane of the planets.

What Is an AU? The graphic notes New Horizons' distance from Earth, the Sun and Pluto in AU, or Astronomical Units. One AU is the average distance between the Sun and Earth, about 93 million miles or 149.6 million kilometers.
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While New Horizons gets colder and colder, a new probe was launched today that will get pretty hot:




link: NASA's Parker Solar Probe blasts off on epic journey to 'touch the Sun'
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(08-12-2018 08:58 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  While New Horizons gets colder and colder, a new probe was launched today that will get pretty hot:




link: NASA's Parker Solar Probe blasts off on epic journey to 'touch the Sun'

1.5 Billion dollar mission. Im having a hard time grasping what the ROI on this could be. Hopefully it will make discoveries that will lead to mind blowing innovation.
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(08-12-2018 09:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 08:58 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  While New Horizons gets colder and colder, a new probe was launched today that will get pretty hot:




link: NASA's Parker Solar Probe blasts off on epic journey to 'touch the Sun'

1.5 Billion dollar mission. Im having a hard time grasping what the ROI on this could be. Hopefully it will make discoveries that will lead to mind blowing innovation.

It won't. It also won't cure one disease, desalinate one ounce of water, or feed one hungry child.
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(08-12-2018 10:53 AM)2mean Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 09:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 08:58 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  While New Horizons gets colder and colder, a new probe was launched today that will get pretty hot:




link: NASA's Parker Solar Probe blasts off on epic journey to 'touch the Sun'

1.5 Billion dollar mission. Im having a hard time grasping what the ROI on this could be. Hopefully it will make discoveries that will lead to mind blowing innovation.

It won't. It also won't cure one disease, desalinate one ounce of water, or feed one hungry child.

Of course we could do that. Queen of Spain could have done that to.
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(08-12-2018 11:39 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 10:53 AM)2mean Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 09:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  1.5 Billion dollar mission. Im having a hard time grasping what the ROI on this could be. Hopefully it will make discoveries that will lead to mind blowing innovation.

It won't. It also won't cure one disease, desalinate one ounce of water, or feed one hungry child.

Of course we could do that. Queen of Spain could have done that to.

It's funny how we seem to spend so much time piddling around on this little planet when there's a whole solar system, and galaxy and universe out there to explore and develop. Need minerals/building materials? Mine some asteroids. Jobs, jobs, jobs. We have some of the technology and expanding outward can help us develop more. Data compression algorithms which are very relevant now, were developed and later vastly improved from space program and sending probes like Voyager out to the far reaches of the solar system. Math has expanded because of the needs of exploration and science in space. Engineering, materials science, the improvements have been staggering.

Think of the real estate out there--build homes on moons or Mars (maybe not on Venus) and flip them (ok, that's gonna take a while, but someone eventually will be the first Space Real Estate agent someday.) I thought for sure by now we'd have at least a small moon base permanently. Missions like these have value as they add to our cumulative knowledge of what is out there, help us practice and get better at navigating the different areas in space, and expand the minds of youth who may dream new things to do, places to go and ways to get there. That's something the US should lead in and promote. And the more we know/have expertise in, strategically the more ahead of any enemies we are.
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(08-12-2018 12:27 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 11:39 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 10:53 AM)2mean Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 09:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  1.5 Billion dollar mission. Im having a hard time grasping what the ROI on this could be. Hopefully it will make discoveries that will lead to mind blowing innovation.

It won't. It also won't cure one disease, desalinate one ounce of water, or feed one hungry child.

Of course we could do that. Queen of Spain could have done that to.

It's funny how we seem to spend so much time piddling around on this little planet when there's a whole solar system, and galaxy and universe out there to explore and develop. Need minerals/building materials? Mine some asteroids. Jobs, jobs, jobs. We have some of the technology and expanding outward can help us develop more. Data compression algorithms which are very relevant now, were developed and later vastly improved from space program and sending probes like Voyager out to the far reaches of the solar system. Math has expanded because of the needs of exploration and science in space. Engineering, materials science, the improvements have been staggering.

Think of the real estate out there--build homes on moons or Mars (maybe not on Venus) and flip them (ok, that's gonna take a while, but someone eventually will be the first Space Real Estate agent someday.) I thought for sure by now we'd have at least a small moon base permanently. Missions like these have value as they add to our cumulative knowledge of what is out there, help us practice and get better at navigating the different areas in space, and expand the minds of youth who may dream new things to do, places to go and ways to get there. That's something the US should lead in and promote. And the more we know/have expertise in, strategically the more ahead of any enemies we are.


I'm certainly all for some level of space exploration, but if you truly are a Christian who believes the Bible is the Word of God you already know we are not going to be colonizing the solar system like some star trek movie.

The Bible makes clear when Christ returns humanity is an earth-based creation, just as He made and intended us to be.

Read the book of Daniel or Revelation, it lays out the 7 world Kingdoms and the battle of Armageddon in Israel. It says nothing about the Kings of Mars or the Kings of Saturn's moons. None of that even remotely fits the text. It actually would be a massive contradiction to the entire Bible.
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(08-12-2018 06:22 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 12:27 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 11:39 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 10:53 AM)2mean Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 09:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  1.5 Billion dollar mission. Im having a hard time grasping what the ROI on this could be. Hopefully it will make discoveries that will lead to mind blowing innovation.

It won't. It also won't cure one disease, desalinate one ounce of water, or feed one hungry child.

Of course we could do that. Queen of Spain could have done that to.

It's funny how we seem to spend so much time piddling around on this little planet when there's a whole solar system, and galaxy and universe out there to explore and develop. Need minerals/building materials? Mine some asteroids. Jobs, jobs, jobs. We have some of the technology and expanding outward can help us develop more. Data compression algorithms which are very relevant now, were developed and later vastly improved from space program and sending probes like Voyager out to the far reaches of the solar system. Math has expanded because of the needs of exploration and science in space. Engineering, materials science, the improvements have been staggering.

Think of the real estate out there--build homes on moons or Mars (maybe not on Venus) and flip them (ok, that's gonna take a while, but someone eventually will be the first Space Real Estate agent someday.) I thought for sure by now we'd have at least a small moon base permanently. Missions like these have value as they add to our cumulative knowledge of what is out there, help us practice and get better at navigating the different areas in space, and expand the minds of youth who may dream new things to do, places to go and ways to get there. That's something the US should lead in and promote. And the more we know/have expertise in, strategically the more ahead of any enemies we are.


I'm certainly all for some level of space exploration, but if you truly are a Christian who believes the Bible is the Word of God you already know we are not going to be colonizing the solar system like some star trek movie.

The Bible makes clear when Christ returns humanity is an earth-based creation, just as He made and intended us to be.

Read the book of Daniel or Revelation, it lays out the 7 world Kingdoms and the battle of Armageddon in Israel. It says nothing about the Kings of Mars or the Kings of Saturn's moons. None of that even remotely fits the text. It actually would be a massive contradiction to the entire Bible.

well then, that begs the question, what if?
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(08-12-2018 08:18 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 06:22 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 12:27 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 11:39 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 10:53 AM)2mean Wrote:  It won't. It also won't cure one disease, desalinate one ounce of water, or feed one hungry child.

Of course we could do that. Queen of Spain could have done that to.

It's funny how we seem to spend so much time piddling around on this little planet when there's a whole solar system, and galaxy and universe out there to explore and develop. Need minerals/building materials? Mine some asteroids. Jobs, jobs, jobs. We have some of the technology and expanding outward can help us develop more. Data compression algorithms which are very relevant now, were developed and later vastly improved from space program and sending probes like Voyager out to the far reaches of the solar system. Math has expanded because of the needs of exploration and science in space. Engineering, materials science, the improvements have been staggering.

Think of the real estate out there--build homes on moons or Mars (maybe not on Venus) and flip them (ok, that's gonna take a while, but someone eventually will be the first Space Real Estate agent someday.) I thought for sure by now we'd have at least a small moon base permanently. Missions like these have value as they add to our cumulative knowledge of what is out there, help us practice and get better at navigating the different areas in space, and expand the minds of youth who may dream new things to do, places to go and ways to get there. That's something the US should lead in and promote. And the more we know/have expertise in, strategically the more ahead of any enemies we are.


I'm certainly all for some level of space exploration, but if you truly are a Christian who believes the Bible is the Word of God you already know we are not going to be colonizing the solar system like some star trek movie.

The Bible makes clear when Christ returns humanity is an earth-based creation, just as He made and intended us to be.

Read the book of Daniel or Revelation, it lays out the 7 world Kingdoms and the battle of Armageddon in Israel. It says nothing about the Kings of Mars or the Kings of Saturn's moons. None of that even remotely fits the text. It actually would be a massive contradiction to the entire Bible.

well then, that begs the question, what if?



We already know better for a fact sitting here in 2018.

If the Bible was not real, today there would be no Christianity, no church, No modern Israel, no New Testament, etc, etc, etc.

Israel, the OT, Jesus and Yahew would have been long gone 2000 years ago when Rome destroyed Israel and scattered the Jews across the globe. Instead, their destruction and the rise of Christianity, the church age, the Bible around the world fulfilled exactly what the OT predicted 2500 years ago.

Jesus had to be rejected by His own people, crucified, rise again, Israel totally destroyed and Christianity and the bible spread across the globe. Otherwise, the entire BIBLE would already have been proven to be fake.

As I have said before, this is a key thing that separates Christianity and the Bible from all other religions. All others are based on 100% BLIND FAITH with no such proof or evidence at all.

We already know the Bible has PROVEN itself to be REAL based on what has taken place the last 2000 years and what was written down in the OT 2500+ years ago.
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I'll get back to you in the other thread once I've digested things a bit more there, Eric. While I appreciate your sentiments here, This Thread is more about space, exploration, a bit of humor, and stuff like that.

As far as I'm aware, there appear to be perhaps billions of other entire galaxies out there, and nothing in Christianity really precludes God having other business elsewhere. Don';think Mars and Saturn, which I agree have little prospect for alien life (but there's always a chance--Titan is intriguing still) as much as Andromeda Galaxy, some little planet there with who knows what might be living. I believe someday we'll see or hear of that, maybe in millions of years when mankind has reached beyond our system in ways we can't yet imagine (we try--hence science fiction, which can be a useful way to ask, "What if?", as the poster above put it so well.)

Sometimes it seems we get so parochial--I think of Cronkite and how he wanted to go into space before he died. Might have been possible for someone like him, but we scuttled the space program after just barely scratching the surface of the moon. It's been too long and there's money to be made out there for those who can think forward enough. Meantime, I like the fact that we're learning new things about our solar neighborhood.

So if you have some cool space exploration things to post, post them here. I'll be happy to go back and forth on religious stuff in the other Thread in time!
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(04-29-2015 08:42 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Pluto & Charon are more of a binary system, where the two revolve around a point outside of the body of Pluto. The Earth & Moon system are close to being binary as well. For the size of the Earth, the moon is absolutely huge.

You mean Pluto and Charon are gay? How 'bout that.
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(08-12-2018 10:16 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  As far as I'm aware, there appear to be perhaps billions of other entire galaxies out there, and nothing in Christianity really precludes God having other business elsewhere.


Well there is a rather dramatic difference between "something in Christianity" and something in the Bible.

If you believe what is written in Genesis (many churches today do not) then we know for a fact that all of creation and God's plan is centered around the earth and man. The only other life out there are the Angles and those things in heaven.

As always, its just a matter if you believe the Word of God or believe your own truth.
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(08-12-2018 10:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(04-29-2015 08:42 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Pluto & Charon are more of a binary system, where the two revolve around a point outside of the body of Pluto. The Earth & Moon system are close to being binary as well. For the size of the Earth, the moon is absolutely huge.

You mean Pluto and Charon are gay? How 'bout that.

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Well, I read that they're binary. Sorry.
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(08-12-2018 12:27 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 11:39 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 10:53 AM)2mean Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 09:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  1.5 Billion dollar mission. Im having a hard time grasping what the ROI on this could be. Hopefully it will make discoveries that will lead to mind blowing innovation.

It won't. It also won't cure one disease, desalinate one ounce of water, or feed one hungry child.

Of course we could do that. Queen of Spain could have done that to.

It's funny how we seem to spend so much time piddling around on this little planet when there's a whole solar system, and galaxy and universe out there to explore and develop. Need minerals/building materials? Mine some asteroids. Jobs, jobs, jobs. We have some of the technology and expanding outward can help us develop more. Data compression algorithms which are very relevant now, were developed and later vastly improved from space program and sending probes like Voyager out to the far reaches of the solar system. Math has expanded because of the needs of exploration and science in space. Engineering, materials science, the improvements have been staggering.

Think of the real estate out there--build homes on moons or Mars (maybe not on Venus) and flip them (ok, that's gonna take a while, but someone eventually will be the first Space Real Estate agent someday.) I thought for sure by now we'd have at least a small moon base permanently. Missions like these have value as they add to our cumulative knowledge of what is out there, help us practice and get better at navigating the different areas in space, and expand the minds of youth who may dream new things to do, places to go and ways to get there. That's something the US should lead in and promote. And the more we know/have expertise in, strategically the more ahead of any enemies we are.

Well... we need to be able to travel faster than the speed of light.
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(12-29-2018 06:21 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Well... we need to be able to travel faster than the speed of light.

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(12-29-2018 06:21 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 12:27 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 11:39 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 10:53 AM)2mean Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 09:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  1.5 Billion dollar mission. Im having a hard time grasping what the ROI on this could be. Hopefully it will make discoveries that will lead to mind blowing innovation.

It won't. It also won't cure one disease, desalinate one ounce of water, or feed one hungry child.

Of course we could do that. Queen of Spain could have done that to.

It's funny how we seem to spend so much time piddling around on this little planet when there's a whole solar system, and galaxy and universe out there to explore and develop. Need minerals/building materials? Mine some asteroids. Jobs, jobs, jobs. We have some of the technology and expanding outward can help us develop more. Data compression algorithms which are very relevant now, were developed and later vastly improved from space program and sending probes like Voyager out to the far reaches of the solar system. Math has expanded because of the needs of exploration and science in space. Engineering, materials science, the improvements have been staggering.

Think of the real estate out there--build homes on moons or Mars (maybe not on Venus) and flip them (ok, that's gonna take a while, but someone eventually will be the first Space Real Estate agent someday.) I thought for sure by now we'd have at least a small moon base permanently. Missions like these have value as they add to our cumulative knowledge of what is out there, help us practice and get better at navigating the different areas in space, and expand the minds of youth who may dream new things to do, places to go and ways to get there. That's something the US should lead in and promote. And the more we know/have expertise in, strategically the more ahead of any enemies we are.

Well... we need to be able to travel faster than the speed of light.

It's been awhile since I took physics, but I think under the currents laws traveling at or over the speed of light is impossible.
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(12-31-2018 02:06 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  
(12-29-2018 06:21 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 12:27 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 11:39 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 10:53 AM)2mean Wrote:  It won't. It also won't cure one disease, desalinate one ounce of water, or feed one hungry child.

Of course we could do that. Queen of Spain could have done that to.

It's funny how we seem to spend so much time piddling around on this little planet when there's a whole solar system, and galaxy and universe out there to explore and develop. Need minerals/building materials? Mine some asteroids. Jobs, jobs, jobs. We have some of the technology and expanding outward can help us develop more. Data compression algorithms which are very relevant now, were developed and later vastly improved from space program and sending probes like Voyager out to the far reaches of the solar system. Math has expanded because of the needs of exploration and science in space. Engineering, materials science, the improvements have been staggering.

Think of the real estate out there--build homes on moons or Mars (maybe not on Venus) and flip them (ok, that's gonna take a while, but someone eventually will be the first Space Real Estate agent someday.) I thought for sure by now we'd have at least a small moon base permanently. Missions like these have value as they add to our cumulative knowledge of what is out there, help us practice and get better at navigating the different areas in space, and expand the minds of youth who may dream new things to do, places to go and ways to get there. That's something the US should lead in and promote. And the more we know/have expertise in, strategically the more ahead of any enemies we are.

Well... we need to be able to travel faster than the speed of light.

It's been awhile since I took physics, but I think under the currents laws traveling at or over the speed of light is impossible.

We wont need to. All you have to do is to contract distance.
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