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(04-28-2015 12:53 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Granted the average age of Reddit is 22. However they are by a longshot the single largest forum in their respective sports. If you want to go the forum route for measuring fanbases this is the best way to do it.

I understand your point, John, but this really isn't an accurate measurement of a fanbase, wouldn't you agree? IMO, the flaw in this methodology, like the other survey we discussed recently that was predicated on Facebook "Likes", is that it leads some to make a generalized opinion about a fanbase based on a limited data set that is not necessarily reflective of the broader makeup of a typical fanbase.

To illustrate my point, IMO, this is like making an assessment on the overall likelihood of a presidential candidate winning an election by just sampling the college vote. Sure, the numbers are interesting, but, by themselves, they don't provide a true picture as to the strength of the candidate.

IMO, surveys like this are interesting, but hardly conclusive. They are fun to discuss, as long as people realize this point.
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(04-28-2015 02:12 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  
(04-28-2015 12:53 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Granted the average age of Reddit is 22. However they are by a longshot the single largest forum in their respective sports. If you want to go the forum route for measuring fanbases this is the best way to do it.

I understand your point, John, but this really isn't an accurate measurement of a fanbase, wouldn't you agree? IMO, the flaw in this methodology, like the other survey we discussed recently that was predicated on Facebook "Likes", is that it leads some to make a generalized opinion about a fanbase based on a limited data set that is not necessarily reflective of the broader makeup of a typical fanbase.

To illustrate my point, IMO, this is like making an assessment on the overall likelihood of a presidential candidate winning an election by just sampling the college vote. Sure, the numbers are interesting, but, by themselves, they don't provide a true picture as to the strength of the candidate.

IMO, surveys like this are interesting, but hardly conclusive. They are fun to discuss, as long as people realize this point.

CFB is nothing like politics. I seriously doubt you will suddenly find a big difference in BC fans when looking at different age groups.

I seriously doubt that different age groups means different amounts of support for FB vs BB within a single fanbase.
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(04-28-2015 10:45 AM)TerryD Wrote:  What the hell is Reddit, anyway?


........ and I had to walk up hill, both ways, butt naked in the snow ...........
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What is hilarious to me are the top "dual flair" combinations.

Nebraska- Creighton <--- Understandable, no football
Notre Dame- Indiana <---- Rust Belt area brand name bandwagoners unite!
Ohio State- Dayton <--- Understandable, no football
Ohio State- Duke <---- Pretentious national brand name bandwagoners unite!
Georgia- North Carolina <---- Deep South brand name bandwagoners unite!
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(04-28-2015 02:20 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(04-28-2015 02:12 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  
(04-28-2015 12:53 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Granted the average age of Reddit is 22. However they are by a longshot the single largest forum in their respective sports. If you want to go the forum route for measuring fanbases this is the best way to do it.

I understand your point, John, but this really isn't an accurate measurement of a fanbase, wouldn't you agree? IMO, the flaw in this methodology, like the other survey we discussed recently that was predicated on Facebook "Likes", is that it leads some to make a generalized opinion about a fanbase based on a limited data set that is not necessarily reflective of the broader makeup of a typical fanbase.

To illustrate my point, IMO, this is like making an assessment on the overall likelihood of a presidential candidate winning an election by just sampling the college vote. Sure, the numbers are interesting, but, by themselves, they don't provide a true picture as to the strength of the candidate.

IMO, surveys like this are interesting, but hardly conclusive. They are fun to discuss, as long as people realize this point.

CFB is nothing like politics. I seriously doubt you will suddenly find a big difference in BC fans when looking at different age groups.

I seriously doubt that different age groups means different amounts of support for FB vs BB within a single fanbase.

John, you have missed my point. My political analogy was just that - an analogy. Sure, it's not a mirror of CFB, but the example of segmenting a small subset of a broader group and making subsequent generalizations of the broader group is an apt analogy, IMO. That was my limited point.
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(04-28-2015 03:03 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(04-28-2015 10:45 AM)TerryD Wrote:  What the hell is Reddit, anyway?


........ and I had to walk up hill, both ways, butt naked in the snow ...........

Everything except for the butt naked part, yep....

I grew up in the snow and hills of Western Pennsylvania.
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UMass right near Temple and Memphis. I'd enjoy being in the same conference as both of those teams.

That's basically all I felt like adding to this conversation.
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(04-28-2015 06:55 PM)e-parade Wrote:  UMass right near Temple and Memphis. I'd enjoy being in the same conference as both of those teams.

That's basically all I felt like adding to this conversation.

UMass can take UCONN's spot once the Huskies join their peers. 04-cheers
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(04-28-2015 07:11 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(04-28-2015 06:55 PM)e-parade Wrote:  UMass right near Temple and Memphis. I'd enjoy being in the same conference as both of those teams.

That's basically all I felt like adding to this conversation.

UMass can take UCONN's spot once the Huskies join their peers. 04-cheers

LOL...you guys are following us around. I noticed who is hugging too close to us on the chart.
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(04-28-2015 07:21 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-28-2015 07:11 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(04-28-2015 06:55 PM)e-parade Wrote:  UMass right near Temple and Memphis. I'd enjoy being in the same conference as both of those teams.

That's basically all I felt like adding to this conversation.

UMass can take UCONN's spot once the Huskies join their peers. 04-cheers

LOL...you guys are following us around. I noticed who is hugging too close to us on the chart.

You can't get rid of us...no matter how hard you try. 04-cheers

Interesting that the majority of schools surrounding UCONN are either in the B1G or ACC... 03-idea
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(04-28-2015 08:18 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  On a side note, this says that you have to have 10 "flaired users" in both football and basketball. So how do some of these schools without football teams have fans there? Wichita and Xavier both dropped football years ago.

They include teams of every level.


(04-28-2015 11:08 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-28-2015 10:45 AM)TerryD Wrote:  What the hell is Reddit, anyway?

LOL...something millennials do I think

I mainly use it for NASCAR and Tobacco related subreddits, the CFB and Basketball forums are lame in comparison to CSN.
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The easiest way to look at this is that teams that are further on the X-Axis are more popular and schools above the log curve are more basketball oriented.

Looking at that way the most popular G5 schools are the following:

1) UCF
2) Boise State
3) Houston
4) Cincinnati (basketball school)
5) BYU
6) Navy
7) UConn (basketball school)
8) Northern Illinois
9) Ohio
10) USF
11) East Carolina
12) North Texas
13) Texas State
14) Appalachian St
15) San Diego St (basketball school)

The 5 least popular G5 schools

1) New Mexico St. (basketball school)
1) UTEP
2) UNLV (basketball school)
3) Eastern Michigan
4) Charlotte (basketball school)

So Ohio while not as popular as BYU is more of a basketball school relative to where it sits on the log graph than BYU.
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I see some of the weighting tends toward larger enrollment schools.

That is why UTSA, Texas St and UNT are ahead of smaller MAC schools and might explain why UCF is as popular as the average P5 school.

Alabama and Navy are the most football oriented schools on the list with NIU and Mississippi St not far behind.
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(04-30-2015 11:43 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  The easiest way to look at this is that teams that are further on the X-Axis are more popular and schools above the log curve are more basketball oriented.

Looking at that way the most popular G5 schools are the following:

1) UCF
2) Boise State
3) Houston
4) Cincinnati (basketball school)
5) BYU
6) Navy
7) UConn (basketball school)
8) Northern Illinois
9) Ohio
10) USF
11) East Carolina
12) North Texas
13) Texas State
14) Appalachian St
15) San Diego St (basketball school)

The 5 least popular G5 schools

1) New Mexico St. (basketball school)
1) UTEP
2) UNLV (basketball school)
3) Eastern Michigan
4) Charlotte (basketball school)

So Ohio while not as popular as BYU is more of a basketball school relative to where it sits on the log graph than BYU.

Cincinnati is further to the right than Houston on this chart. I still don't understand how to read it, but if being further to the right means more popularity, then Cincinnati should be 3rd on your list.
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(05-01-2015 12:08 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-30-2015 11:43 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  The easiest way to look at this is that teams that are further on the X-Axis are more popular and schools above the log curve are more basketball oriented.

Looking at that way the most popular G5 schools are the following:

1) UCF
2) Boise State
3) Houston
4) Cincinnati (basketball school)
5) BYU
6) Navy
7) UConn (basketball school)
8) Northern Illinois
9) Ohio
10) USF
11) East Carolina
12) North Texas
13) Texas State
14) Appalachian St
15) San Diego St (basketball school)

The 5 least popular G5 schools

1) New Mexico St. (basketball school)
1) UTEP
2) UNLV (basketball school)
3) Eastern Michigan
4) Charlotte (basketball school)

So Ohio while not as popular as BYU is more of a basketball school relative to where it sits on the log graph than BYU.

Cincinnati is further to the right than Houston on this chart. I still don't understand how to read it, but if being further to the right means more popularity, then Cincinnati should be 3rd on your list.

Call Cincinnati 3rd if you want. Its hard to tell with some of the schools so close along the X axis but far apart on the Y axis.

Thus you kind of have to take the positions generally.
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Top 15 G5 basketball schools (ranked by location relative to log curve)

1) UConn (AAC)
2) UNLV (MWC)
3) San Diego St (MWC)
4) New Mexico (MWC)
5) UMass (A10)
6) Temple (AAC)
7) Cincinnati (AAC)
8) Charlotte (CUSA)
9) Buffalo (MAC)
10) SMU (AAC)
11) New Mexico St. (WAC)
12) Old Dominion (AAC)
13) Wyoming (MWC)
14) Akron (MAC)
15) Ohio (MAC)

This list is interesting because it shows what schools could benefit the most from making a move to the AAC or MWC.

Let's say the scenario is Cincinnati to the B12 leaving an opening in the AAC. If Charlotte moved to the AAC how much would it help the popularity of their school/program? What about Buffalo? They would get even more of a boost aligning in a conference with UConn and Temple.

Ohio is interesting from a basketball standpoint as its a more popular than the average G5 school and more basketball oriented than average. They play in a 13,000 seat arena and averaged 6,700 a game with 10-20 record last year. The potential of being in a basketball conference with UConn, Temple, Memphis and SMU in terms of selling season ticket packages has to be huge.

Ohio in joining the AAC would have a similar profile to Cincinnati....a little more popular overall and more popular in basketball than football. Ohio is winning 7 games a year in football but its popularity is driven more by overall university interest and support. A move to the AAC would be neutral for football support.

NIU joins the AAC and not being a basketball school they would struggle and they wouldn't win as much in football. They don't have synergy with the schools of the AAC like Buffalo and Ohio would. They are a Chicago area school and the MAC is good for them with WMU, EMU, Ball St and Miami all getting play in the Chicago market.

If Buffalo was to go to the AAC, which makes some from athletic, academic, location standpoints.....Illinois St, UNI and JMU from the graph and from an FBS preparedness standpoint look to be the best replacement candidates. Missouri State is far less popular. Illinois St likely gets the call so due to travel and another bite out of the Chicago market.
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(04-28-2015 11:08 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-28-2015 10:45 AM)TerryD Wrote:  What the hell is Reddit, anyway?

LOL...something millennials do I think



If so, how in the hell can ND have any fans on it?

I thought ND didn't have any younger fans and all of the other ones were in nursing homes?
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(05-01-2015 12:08 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Cincinnati is further to the right than Houston on this chart. I still don't understand how to read it, but if being further to the right means more popularity, then Cincinnati should be 3rd on your list.

Here's the explanation given from http://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/342...asketball/

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Quote:This chart actually doesn't look at user crossovers, but simply takes all teams with at least 10 flaired users in both /r/CFB and /r/collegebasketball, and puts /r/CFB flair on the x-axis, and /r/collegebasketball flair on the y-axis. These are normalized such that the top amount of flair in each subreddit is at the leftward or upward extent. The data is also on a logarithmic scale for clarity.
For example Ohio State has 4812 flair in /r/CFB and Kentucky has 1862 flair in /r/collegebasketball. Arizona has 625 in /r/CFB and 865 in /r/collegebasketball. log(625)/log(4812) = .759, while log(625)/log(4812) = .898, so Arizona is about three-quarters of the way to the left and nine-tenths of the way to the top. Schools on the left of the line have proportionately more football fans, while schools on the right have proportionately more basketball fans. A lot of these make intuitive sense, with Alabama, Auburn, and USC being very much football schools, and Duke, Kentucky, and Kansas being very much basketball schools.

They've made a few typos, but taken with the explanation given in the chart, the teams closer to the top are more popular among Reddit users (using UK and OSU as bases). Left or right gives an idea of the football/basketball split.

They did a football chart before bowl games in Dec. Here are the results by conference.

Con. Total Ave. Per Team
SEC 20986 1,499.00
B1G 17363 1,240.21
PAC 10823 901.92
Big12 8663 866.30
ACC 9868 704.86
Ind 2610 652.50
AAC 2180 198.18
MWC 1419 118.25
CUSA 1327 102.08
MAC 1163 89.46
SBC 975 88.64
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(04-30-2015 11:43 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  The easiest way to look at this is that teams that are further on the X-Axis are more popular and schools above the log curve are more basketball oriented.

Looking at that way the most popular G5 schools are the following:

1) UCF
2) Boise State
3) Houston
4) Cincinnati (basketball school)
5) BYU
6) Navy
7) UConn (basketball school)
8) Northern Illinois
9) Ohio
10) USF
11) East Carolina
12) North Texas
13) Texas State
14) Appalachian St
15) San Diego St (basketball school)

The 5 least popular G5 schools

1) New Mexico St. (basketball school)
1) UTEP
2) UNLV (basketball school)
3) Eastern Michigan
4) Charlotte (basketball school)

So Ohio while not as popular as BYU is more of a basketball school relative to where it sits on the log graph than BYU.

I'm not sure that is correct. I think the closer to the top right corner you fall, the larger your overall fanbase. The closer you are to the top, the more popular you are in basketball and the closer to the right, the more popular in football. So UConn is number 1 in the G5, ahead of many P5 schools. It appears to me that UConn's overall reddit fanbase is roughly equivlent to Purdue, WVU, Arkansas, VT, and OU with UConn being most popular for basketball compared with OU for football.
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