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Baseball Polls (w/o April 27th)
No surprise that we're still not ranked by Perfect Game (FAU at #14!!!), but College Baseball Central kept us at #19, while dropping FAU to #22...

http://collegebaseballcentral.com/colleg...-27/11178/

I can't remember a time in the recent past when there was so much discrepancy between ISR and RPI rankings this late in the season. RPI has a number of small conference schools in the Top 25, but ISR has the same schools raNKED in the 50s. We're at #39 in RPI and #28 in ISR (#40 in SoS). Conversely, UH are #27 in RPI, #36 in ISR and #70 in SoS.
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Made the "Others Considered" list in the D1 poll, along with UH.
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Still lingering in the "others considered"grouping in D1baseball (along with the Coogs)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/rankings/d1bas...-april-27/

Don't understand FAU all the way up at #15. Sure, they're bolstered by their 6-3 record against the Top 50, but keep in mind that 5 of those victories came during the first two weeks of the season, playing at home against two Northern schools (UConn and Ohio State) who had limited practice time due to inclimate weather. Their other OOC series also were at home against weak Northern schools (Monmouth, Rutgers). Overall, they've padded their record by going 15 - 1 vs. teams ranked below #175 in RPI. They have a SoS ranking of only #101. And they've played just two OOC road games-- one across town (Bethune-Cookman) and the other in-state (UCF). BTW, they play 2 home mid-week games (vs. Bethune-Cookman and UCF) immediately before our big weekend series.
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(04-27-2015 09:37 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Still lingering in the "others considered"grouping in D1baseball (along with the Coogs)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/rankings/d1bas...-april-27/

Don't understand FAU all the way up at #15. Sure, they're bolstered by their 6-3 record against the Top 50, but keep in mind that 5 of those victories came during the first two weeks of the season, playing at home against two Northern schools (UConn and Ohio State) who had limited practice time due to inclimate weather. Their other OOC series also were at home against weak Northern schools (Monmouth, Rutgers). Overall, they've padded their record by going 15 - 1 vs. teams ranked below #175 in RPI. And they've played just two OOC road games-- one across town (Bethune-Cookman) and the other in-state (UCF). BTW, they play 2 home mid-week games (vs. Bethune-Cookman and UCF) immediately before our big weekend series.

not bad, then let's sweep them and grab some attentions.
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It's going to be VERY interesting to see how The OG decides to work his pitching when we return from break. Given the Wednesday game vs. TAMU-CC, one would think we'd hold back Orewiler for the weekend series vs. FAY; meaning the mid-week start could go to Salinas, Myers, Pettitte or Solecitto. Usually, that first game back we go with "all staff", giving a bunch of our pitcher 1 - 2 innings of competitive action to shake off the rust. The big decision will be whether to start Fox or Orewiler on that Sunday. My guess is The OG loves what he sees from Austin as a third multi-inning co-closer option out of the pen (along with Otto and Ditman)...and Blake has pitched better the past two weekends.

BTW, the FAU weekend rotation features two right-handers and a southpaw-- all upperclassmen, and they have 5 quality relievers. Their across-the-board pitching stats are virtually identical to ours, with the exception of strikeout, where we have a huge advantage.
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(04-27-2015 09:37 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Still lingering in the "others considered"grouping in D1baseball (along with the Coogs)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/rankings/d1bas...-april-27/

Don't understand FAU all the way up at #15. Sure, they're bolstered by their 6-3 record against the Top 50, but keep in mind that 5 of those victories came during the first two weeks of the season, playing at home against two Northern schools (UConn and Ohio State) who had limited practice time due to inclimate weather. Their other OOC series also were at home against weak Northern schools (Monmouth, Rutgers). Overall, they've padded their record by going 15 - 1 vs. teams ranked below #175 in RPI. They have a SoS ranking of only #101. And they've played just two OOC road games-- one across town (Bethune-Cookman) and the other in-state (UCF). BTW, they play 2 home mid-week games (vs. Bethune-Cookman and UCF) immediately before our big weekend series.

That should be a good shot in the arm if we can sweep or take 2 out of 3.
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Disappointed that d1 didn't move us back in the mix, but on body of work it's still hard to argue against.
Hoping a 4-0 week after being "also considered" last week would get us up there.

Hope BA at least takes note of our strong week.
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(04-27-2015 11:15 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Disappointed that d1 didn't move us back in the mix, but on body of work it's still hard to argue against.
Hoping a 4-0 week after being "also considered" last week would get us up there.

Hope BA at least takes note of our strong week.

Not ranked in BA.
Dallas Baptist at #15. FAU moves up to #18.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/c...-april-27/
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(04-27-2015 09:37 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Still lingering in the "others considered"grouping in D1baseball (along with the Coogs)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/rankings/d1bas...-april-27/

Don't understand FAU all the way up at #15. Sure, they're bolstered by their 6-3 record against the Top 50, but keep in mind that 5 of those victories came during the first two weeks of the season, playing at home against two Northern schools (UConn and Ohio State) who had limited practice time due to inclimate weather. Their other OOC series also were at home against weak Northern schools (Monmouth, Rutgers). Overall, they've padded their record by going 15 - 1 vs. teams ranked below #175 in RPI. They have a SoS ranking of only #101. And they've played just two OOC road games-- one across town (Bethune-Cookman) and the other in-state (UCF). BTW, they play 2 home mid-week games (vs. Bethune-Cookman and UCF) immediately before our big weekend series.

I believe that our Rice team at its best is better that FAU's team at its best. I hope that we will prove that in a couple of weeks.

However, when you judge the teams based on actual performance year to date, I'm not sure how you can have a serious concern with FAU's current ranking. They have an RPI ranking of #13, an ISR ranking of #16, and a Massey ranking of #11.

#15 in the D1 poll seems in line with that.
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(04-27-2015 11:15 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Disappointed that d1 didn't move us back in the mix, but on body of work it's still hard to argue against.
Hoping a 4-0 week after being "also considered" last week would get us up there.

Hope BA at least takes note of our strong week.

The Owls were 3-0 last week. No mid-week game during the last week of classes. 6-1 over the last two weeks.
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(04-27-2015 09:53 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  It's going to be VERY interesting to see how The OG decides to work his pitching when we return from break. Given the Wednesday game vs. TAMU-CC, one would think we'd hold back Orewiler for the weekend series vs. FAY; meaning the mid-week start could go to Salinas, Myers, Pettitte or Solecitto. Usually, that first game back we go with "all staff", giving a bunch of our pitcher 1 - 2 innings of competitive action to shake off the rust. The big decision will be whether to start Fox or Orewiler on that Sunday. My guess is The OG loves what he sees from Austin as a third multi-inning co-closer option out of the pen (along with Otto and Ditman)...and Blake has pitched better the past two weekends...

Any ideas when Jon Duplantier will reappear? Will he?
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(04-27-2015 01:49 PM)sts60 Wrote:  
(04-27-2015 09:53 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  It's going to be VERY interesting to see how The OG decides to work his pitching when we return from break. Given the Wednesday game vs. TAMU-CC, one would think we'd hold back Orewiler for the weekend series vs. FAY; meaning the mid-week start could go to Salinas, Myers, Pettitte or Solecitto. Usually, that first game back we go with "all staff", giving a bunch of our pitcher 1 - 2 innings of competitive action to shake off the rust. The big decision will be whether to start Fox or Orewiler on that Sunday. My guess is The OG loves what he sees from Austin as a third multi-inning co-closer option out of the pen (along with Otto and Ditman)...and Blake has pitched better the past two weekends...

Any ideas when Jon Duplantier will reappear? Will he?

An even better question - even though he is "draft eligible" will he be back next year to reassure scouts / improve his standing?
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TJS: Reading other current threads, Jon will be back next year.
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(04-27-2015 11:15 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Disappointed that d1 didn't move us back in the mix, but on body of work it's still hard to argue against.
Hoping a 4-0 week after being "also considered" last week would get us up there.

Hope BA at least takes note of our strong week.

Problem is the gawd-almighty RPI has us at #41, and we're just 1-3 vs. the RPI Top 25. That's still a post-season bubble team in the eyes of many.
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(04-27-2015 11:26 AM)dragon2owl Wrote:  
(04-27-2015 11:15 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Disappointed that d1 didn't move us back in the mix, but on body of work it's still hard to argue against.
Hoping a 4-0 week after being "also considered" last week would get us up there.

Hope BA at least takes note of our strong week.

Not ranked in BA.
Dallas Baptist at #15. FAU moves up to #18.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/c...-april-27/

How does FAU actually move up 3 spots with a 2-1, including a home loss to ODU?
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(04-27-2015 11:58 AM)temchugh Wrote:  
(04-27-2015 09:37 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Still lingering in the "others considered"grouping in D1baseball (along with the Coogs)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/rankings/d1bas...-april-27/

Don't understand FAU all the way up at #15. Sure, they're bolstered by their 6-3 record against the Top 50, but keep in mind that 5 of those victories came during the first two weeks of the season, playing at home against two Northern schools (UConn and Ohio State) who had limited practice time due to inclimate weather. Their other OOC series also were at home against weak Northern schools (Monmouth, Rutgers). Overall, they've padded their record by going 15 - 1 vs. teams ranked below #175 in RPI. They have a SoS ranking of only #101. And they've played just two OOC road games-- one across town (Bethune-Cookman) and the other in-state (UCF). BTW, they play 2 home mid-week games (vs. Bethune-Cookman and UCF) immediately before our big weekend series.

I believe that our Rice team at its best is better that FAU's team at its best. I hope that we will prove that in a couple of weeks.

However, when you judge the teams based on actual performance year to date, I'm not sure how you can have a serious concern with FAU's current ranking. They have an RPI ranking of #13, an ISR ranking of #16, and a Massey ranking of #11.

#15 in the D1 poll seems in line with that.

And it's totally based on a home-baked OOC schedule, with five of their six Top 50 wins coming against Northern teams during the first two weeks of the season. That in a nutshell is the difference between FAU and Rice this year.
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#17 in the Coaches poll (the only one used by the Selection Committee) and, amazingly #21 in Collegiate Baseball (with #26 FAU and #27 UH). What's the world coming to when CB gives us more love than D1?
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(04-27-2015 04:03 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(04-27-2015 11:58 AM)temchugh Wrote:  
(04-27-2015 09:37 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Still lingering in the "others considered"grouping in D1baseball (along with the Coogs)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/rankings/d1bas...-april-27/

Don't understand FAU all the way up at #15. Sure, they're bolstered by their 6-3 record against the Top 50, but keep in mind that 5 of those victories came during the first two weeks of the season, playing at home against two Northern schools (UConn and Ohio State) who had limited practice time due to inclimate weather. Their other OOC series also were at home against weak Northern schools (Monmouth, Rutgers). Overall, they've padded their record by going 15 - 1 vs. teams ranked below #175 in RPI. They have a SoS ranking of only #101. And they've played just two OOC road games-- one across town (Bethune-Cookman) and the other in-state (UCF). BTW, they play 2 home mid-week games (vs. Bethune-Cookman and UCF) immediately before our big weekend series.

I believe that our Rice team at its best is better that FAU's team at its best. I hope that we will prove that in a couple of weeks.

However, when you judge the teams based on actual performance year to date, I'm not sure how you can have a serious concern with FAU's current ranking. They have an RPI ranking of #13, an ISR ranking of #16, and a Massey ranking of #11.

#15 in the D1 poll seems in line with that.

And it's totally based on a home-baked OOC schedule, with five of their six Top 50 wins coming against Northern teams during the first two weeks of the season. That in a nutshell is the difference between FAU and Rice this year.

Walt, you seem to have a big problem with teams who "home-bake" their OOC schedule. Since so many people do it, I think it begs the question, "Why don't we??"
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(04-27-2015 04:38 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  
(04-27-2015 04:03 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(04-27-2015 11:58 AM)temchugh Wrote:  
(04-27-2015 09:37 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Still lingering in the "others considered"grouping in D1baseball (along with the Coogs)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/rankings/d1bas...-april-27/

Don't understand FAU all the way up at #15. Sure, they're bolstered by their 6-3 record against the Top 50, but keep in mind that 5 of those victories came during the first two weeks of the season, playing at home against two Northern schools (UConn and Ohio State) who had limited practice time due to inclimate weather. Their other OOC series also were at home against weak Northern schools (Monmouth, Rutgers). Overall, they've padded their record by going 15 - 1 vs. teams ranked below #175 in RPI. They have a SoS ranking of only #101. And they've played just two OOC road games-- one across town (Bethune-Cookman) and the other in-state (UCF). BTW, they play 2 home mid-week games (vs. Bethune-Cookman and UCF) immediately before our big weekend series.

I believe that our Rice team at its best is better that FAU's team at its best. I hope that we will prove that in a couple of weeks.

However, when you judge the teams based on actual performance year to date, I'm not sure how you can have a serious concern with FAU's current ranking. They have an RPI ranking of #13, an ISR ranking of #16, and a Massey ranking of #11.

#15 in the D1 poll seems in line with that.

And it's totally based on a home-baked OOC schedule, with five of their six Top 50 wins coming against Northern teams during the first two weeks of the season. That in a nutshell is the difference between FAU and Rice this year.

Walt, you seem to have a big problem with teams who "home-bake" their OOC schedule. Since so many people do it, I think it begs the question, "Why don't we??"

The Selection Committee has an issue with it as well, and made an example of LSU several years ago because of it. Rice doesn't do it because The OG schedules a tough OOC schedule-- both to toughen the team and bolster our RPI, and those Top 35 teams who do travel during non-conference series tend to demand home and home series. Sure, we could stay at home and schedule Northern teams who have not had the opportunity to practice, but that's not exactly toughening us for the season. Note, next year, with Stanford off our schedule, we're playing both ECU and UCF at home (in addition to UT at Austin and the Minute Maid tourney).
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(04-27-2015 04:14 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  #17 in the Coaches poll (the only one used by the Selection Committee) and, amazingly #21 in Collegiate Baseball (with #26 FAU and #27 UH). What's the world coming to when CB gives us more love than D1?

And up to #15 in the Writers polls (with #14 FAU, #17 DBU, #20 UH)...
http://www.sportswriters.net/ncbwa/news/...50427.html
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