(04-26-2015 02:30 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 11:15 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 08:46 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 07:08 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  ...That said winning in the MAC as opposed to even the AAC, is not much to sneeze about. I mean what has Bowling Green done aside from Urban Meyer's brief stay?

Meyer never won a conference champ or played in a bowl at Bowling Green, so besides winning 16 conference championships, making 12 bowl appearances, hosting an episode of College Game Day, being nationally ranked several times and having the 32nd best all-time winning percentage in FBS I guess BG hasn't really done much without Urban Meyer.

Sorry, I meant what have they done since 1999, the specified time period in the post I was responding to.

since 1999 BG has won a conf championship, 3 division titles and made 7 bowl appearances. ESPN College Gameday was on campus in 2003 when #23 BGSU hosted #12 NIU.

2003 was a banner year for the MAC, in non conference play BGSU beat #16 Purdue, Miami beat Northwestern and Cincinnati, NIU beat Iowa State and on the same day (9/20/03) Marshall beat #6 Kansas State, Toledo beat #9 Pitt, NIU beat #21 Alabama and BGSU lost by 1 TD to #5 Ohio State.

Miami and BG were the only 2 MAC teams to get a bowl, Miami beat Louisville and BGSU beat Northwestern. NIU went 10-2 but didn't get a bowl invite. BGSU finished the year ranked #23 and Miami, with Ben Rawfulberger at QB, finished at #10.

Some hate that we have so many bowl games I don't .
I think a winning team deserves a bowl game no matter what FBS conference.

Some conferences get lucky their number one gets beat by the number two team in a CCG. Then they get an at large bid to consistently get two you need one or two teams with good reputations. So they might get the benefit of the doubt.

(04-25-2015 05:01 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 02:21 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 01:25 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  The last time a MAC team received an at-large bid was Miami's Sweet 16 team of 1999, you could argue that the conference's focus on football, and for some schools hockey too, since then has impacted basketball.

The MAC is focused on football? How's that working out?

well, in a list of the 10 winningest G5 programs since 1999 the MAC has more schools than any G5 except MWC, so I would say its working out just fine.

1. Boise State
2. Northern Illinois
3. Toledo
4. Cincinnati
5. Fresno State
6. Marshall
7. Air Force
8. Bowling Green
9. UCF
10. Hawaii

This is not really an apples to apples list...

Cincy was in a BCS conference for a lot of the time frame you listed and we played, on a regular basis a lot tougher schedules night in and night out than the other teams you have listed. I know the Big East wasn't the SEC in football but most years we were pretty good top to bottom with as many as four teams ranked at one time and so I don't think this is really a fair comparison.

(04-26-2015 10:42 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 05:01 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 02:21 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 01:25 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  The last time a MAC team received an at-large bid was Miami's Sweet 16 team of 1999, you could argue that the conference's focus on football, and for some schools hockey too, since then has impacted basketball.

The MAC is focused on football? How's that working out?

well, in a list of the 10 winningest G5 programs since 1999 the MAC has more schools than any G5 except MWC, so I would say its working out just fine.

1. Boise State
2. Northern Illinois
3. Toledo
4. Cincinnati
5. Fresno State
6. Marshall
7. Air Force
8. Bowling Green
9. UCF
10. Hawaii

This is not really an apples to apples list...

Cincy was in a BCS conference for a lot of the time frame you listed and we played, on a regular basis a lot tougher schedules night in and night out than the other teams you have listed. I know the Big East wasn't the SEC in football but most years we were pretty good top to bottom with as many as four teams ranked at one time and so I don't think this is really a fair comparison.

Sorry, but when you have the worst facilities, the lowest rated recruits, and the smallest coach salaries every single game you play is a challenge. There are no games where you have an advantage over the other team. None. Winning in the MAC is much harder than winning in a BCS conference.