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RE: Hillary: “Religious Beliefs Have To Be Changed” To Support Abortion Rights
Why does every liberal argument always devolve to accusations of racism?
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RE: Hillary: “Religious Beliefs Have To Be Changed” To Support Abortion Rights
It's an easy and obvious comparison to make, seeing as how the arguments are basically the same, but with homosexuals instead.
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RE: Hillary: “Religious Beliefs Have To Be Changed” To Support Abortion Rights
(04-24-2015 06:33 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  It's an easy and obvious comparison to make, seeing as how the arguments are basically the same, but with homosexuals instead.

It's a quick lazy way to build straw men. In terms of mental capacity beating u pa straw man is about the best some folks here can do.
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(04-24-2015 06:04 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Why does every liberal argument always devolve to accusations of racism?

Its what they're best at. Media and those with the same opinion all believe racism is the high card, once it's played the argument is over as far as they're concerned.
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Re: RE: Hillary: “Religious Beliefs Have To Be Changed” To Support Abortion Rights
(04-24-2015 06:33 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  It's an easy and obvious comparison to make, seeing as how the arguments are basically the same, but with homosexuals instead.

No, not the same at all and its not hard to recognize the difference
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RE: Hillary: “Religious Beliefs Have To Be Changed” To Support Abortion Rights
(04-24-2015 07:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 06:33 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  It's an easy and obvious comparison to make, seeing as how the arguments are basically the same, but with homosexuals instead.

No, not the same at all and its not hard to recognize the difference

What are the differences between the two that you think inherently make this comparison not work?
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RE: Hillary: “Religious Beliefs Have To Be Changed” To Support Abortion Rights
(04-24-2015 03:50 PM)john01992 Wrote:  That's a BS talking point.

No one needs a religious text to understand why murder, rape, theft, etc. are wrong.

Your talking point is pure opinion with nothing of substance to it.

Well hell you ignorant turd, obviously you, Hillary and many others need something. Jeez Louis. Maintain a position that murder is nothing more than a choice then claim you understand why it's wrong.
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(04-24-2015 07:40 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 07:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 06:33 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  It's an easy and obvious comparison to make, seeing as how the arguments are basically the same, but with homosexuals instead.

No, not the same at all and its not hard to recognize the difference

What are the differences between the two that you think inherently make this comparison not work?

I'd think the burden of proof lies with you since you say the arguments are basically the same.
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RE: Hillary: “Religious Beliefs Have To Be Changed” To Support Abortion Rights
There's no commonality.
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(04-24-2015 08:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  There's no commonality.

Oh i know, just waiting to hear what UCF say
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(04-24-2015 03:35 PM)john01992 Wrote:  You can believe whatever you want to believe, but you can't force those values on others.

I agree, and thank you for saying it.

I feel that threatening to take away my church's tax exempt status, or to sue my church, because we won't marry a gay couple, is a pretty good example of people trying to force their values on me. I agree with you that this is wrong.
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RE: Hillary: “Religious Beliefs Have To Be Changed” To Support Abortion Rights
(04-24-2015 08:47 PM)PlainTiger Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 03:35 PM)john01992 Wrote:  You can believe whatever you want to believe, but you can't force those values on others.

I agree, and thank you for saying it.

I feel that threatening to take away my church's tax exempt status, or to sue my church, because we won't marry a gay couple, is a pretty good example of people trying to force their values on me. I agree with you that this is wrong.

Right!

We went from the misnomer that I want to force my values in the left's bedroom to the reality that the left wants to force their morals into my Church.
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RE: Hillary: “Religious Beliefs Have To Be Changed” To Support Abortion Rights
I still don't get why the religious among us have to give up our beliefs to align with Hillary's.

She's a megalomaniac.
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(04-24-2015 09:41 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  I still don't get why the religious among us have to give up our beliefs to align with Hillary's.

She's a megalomaniac.

You forget that Liberals believe that they are enlightened and know better than we do what is good for us. 03-puke
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(04-24-2015 12:19 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Starts at 8:26




Religious freedom? What’s that?

Quote:NEW YORK — Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton took a feminist tone on Thursday. She told attendees at the sixth annual Women in The World Summit that “deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed” for the sake of giving women access to “reproductive health care and safe childbirth.”

“Far too many women are denied access to reproductive health care and safe childbirth, and laws don’t count for much if they’re not enforced. Rights have to exist in practice — not just on paper,” Clinton said.

“Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will,” she explained. “And deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed. As I have said and as I believe, the advancement of the full participation of women and girls in every aspect of their societies is the great unfinished business of the 21st century and not just for women but for everyone — and not just in far away countries but right here in the United States.”

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/23/hillar...e-changed/

Jesus said the same thing.
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RE: Hillary: “Religious Beliefs Have To Be Changed” To Support Abortion Rights
(04-25-2015 09:56 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 12:19 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Starts at 8:26




Religious freedom? What’s that?

Quote:NEW YORK — Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton took a feminist tone on Thursday. She told attendees at the sixth annual Women in The World Summit that “deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed” for the sake of giving women access to “reproductive health care and safe childbirth.”

“Far too many women are denied access to reproductive health care and safe childbirth, and laws don’t count for much if they’re not enforced. Rights have to exist in practice — not just on paper,” Clinton said.

“Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will,” she explained. “And deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed. As I have said and as I believe, the advancement of the full participation of women and girls in every aspect of their societies is the great unfinished business of the 21st century and not just for women but for everyone — and not just in far away countries but right here in the United States.”

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/23/hillar...e-changed/

Jesus said the same thing.

I don't recall Jesus discussing women's access to reproductive health care and safe childbirth.
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Fit, I believe Jesus spoke out against murder.

And he really, really loved the little children.
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Hillary: “Religious Beliefs Have To Be Changed” To Support Abortion Rights
A lot of it depends on your beliefs as to where life comes from. If you believe that you (or more properly, you and your mate) are the ones who created life, then it would be justifiable to take it away.

If you believe that a God (or the higher power of your choice) has a role in creating life, then you don't have a right to take it away since He created it.
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(04-25-2015 06:58 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  A lot of it depends on your beliefs as to where life comes from. If you believe that you (or more properly, you and your mate) are the ones who created life, then it would be justifiable to take it away.

WHAT?!?!?! THat life comes from you and your SO when they are 7 and when they are in the womb.
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(04-25-2015 06:58 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  A lot of it depends on your beliefs as to where life comes from. If you believe that you (or more properly, you and your mate) are the ones who created life, then it would be justifiable to take it away.[\b]

If you believe that a God (or the higher power of your choice) has a role in creating life, then you don't have a right to take it away since He created it.

Dumbest post ever.

by your logic a parent has the right to kill their children.
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