(04-24-2015 12:04 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 11:31 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  Grant Milner ‏@GrantMilner 2m2 minutes ago
Josh Pastner on @Sports56WHBQ: "If we went 40-0 and won the national championship, people would still knock me for something."

Why don't we find out if this is the truth or just Pastner conjecture?

Hey we go 40-0 I think JP can say or do whatever he damn well pleases. He'll OWN Memphis. No questions asked.

(04-24-2015 11:34 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Likes getting Martin from Mitchell. Puts a high value in recruiting players from winning programs. Likes kids who know what it feels like to win and know what it takes to win.

As opposed to the 40-0 comment, this is good.

Recruiting winners helps you win. I can get behind that logic.

There were "fans" who called quarterback Lynch "garbage" during mid-season. Yea, you better believe there would be some who would find something to ***** about if we went 40-0.

I was calling Lynch names during the bowl game. The guy's a player but he's also a freaking turnover machine.

(04-24-2015 01:18 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  There were "fans" who called quarterback Lynch "garbage" during mid-season. Yea, you better believe there would be some who would find something to ***** about if we went 40-0.

Absolutely.

And honestly, if we were 4-0 and played Northwest Eastern Southern Texas Technical A&M with an RPI of 451 and won 63-59 and needed a 6 point run to close it, I might complain out of concern.

I would then, of course feel like an idiot if we went 40-0.

But that is cool, I often feel like an idiot.

(04-24-2015 01:18 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  There were "fans" who called quarterback Lynch "garbage" during mid-season. Yea, you better believe there would be some who would find something to ***** about if we went 40-0.

Really? I don't think I've ever heard that before

Oh and LOL at Pastner. Ducks the end of season interview only to pop up running his mouth on Sports 56 a month later.

Josh is finished here.

(04-24-2015 01:22 PM)450bench Wrote:  Josh is finished here.

He's still the HC.
We have a decent roster next year.

No reason we can't win next year. None.

And then, if he wants to stay, he stays.

(04-24-2015 01:23 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:22 PM)450bench Wrote:  Josh is finished here.

He's still the HC.
We have a decent roster next year.

No reason we can't win next year. None.

And then, if he wants to stay, he stays.

I think he's feeling the pressure and I don't think he will handle it well. That's my opinion. He's a lame duck coach and in a tough spot.

(04-24-2015 01:23 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:22 PM)450bench Wrote:  Josh is finished here.

He's still the HC.
We have a decent roster next year.

No reason we can't win next year. None.

And then, if he wants to stay, he stays.

I wouldn't say finished either but it's the bottom of the 9th we are two runs down there are 2 outs and Mariano Rivera is pitching

(04-24-2015 01:12 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:09 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 12:30 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 12:28 PM)memphistiger001 Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 12:25 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  IMO, Josh hasn't done enough to ingratiate himself with the fanbase to make snarky comments like that. I like the guy, but taking constant jabs at the fans isn't the way to do things when you haven't won something of significance.

Josh is talking to the vocal minority.

Which is sad.

For a guy who preaches positivity as much as he does to always be sending jabs to his critics seems to ring untrue.

Interesting.

There will always be complaints. It's a question of volume and number.

If JP went 40-0 there would be complaints, some people do like to complain.

I would venture a guess I won't be one of them, but hey, it's possible.

Beer at the FXF would probably go up to $10.

(04-24-2015 01:26 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:23 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:22 PM)450bench Wrote:  Josh is finished here.

He's still the HC.
We have a decent roster next year.

No reason we can't win next year. None.

And then, if he wants to stay, he stays.

I wouldn't say finished either but it's the bottom of the 9th we are two runs down there are 2 outs and Mariano Rivera is pitching

(04-24-2015 01:26 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:23 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:22 PM)450bench Wrote:  Josh is finished here.

He's still the HC.
We have a decent roster next year.

No reason we can't win next year. None.

And then, if he wants to stay, he stays.

I think he's feeling the pressure and I don't think he will handle it well. That's my opinion. He's a lame duck coach and in a tough spot.

Eh. I think he knows he has to win to keep his career in the fast lane and he's going to work awfully hard. The guy has work ethic and honor.

I think he just might surprise all of us. That's what I'm hoping.

Despite what some people think, I'm rooting for him to do well. He is likable. I think most of us want the best for him, just not at the expense of the program.

Hey, we're going to find out. Push the chips in and deal.

(04-24-2015 01:30 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:26 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:23 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:22 PM)450bench Wrote:  Josh is finished here.

He's still the HC.
We have a decent roster next year.

No reason we can't win next year. None.

And then, if he wants to stay, he stays.

I think he's feeling the pressure and I don't think he will handle it well. That's my opinion. He's a lame duck coach and in a tough spot.

Eh. I think he knows he has to win to keep his career in the fast lane and he's going to work awfully hard. The guy has work ethic and honor.

I think he just might surprise all of us. That's what I'm hoping.

Despite what some people think, I'm rooting for him to do well. He is likable. I think most of us want the best for him, just not at the expense of the program.

Hey, we're going to find out. Push the chips in and deal.

$2.65 Million sounds like we're already all in. I'd say it's more like time for someone to show their cards.

(04-24-2015 01:26 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:23 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:22 PM)450bench Wrote:  Josh is finished here.

He's still the HC.
We have a decent roster next year.

No reason we can't win next year. None.

And then, if he wants to stay, he stays.

I think he's feeling the pressure and I don't think he will handle it well. That's my opinion. He's a lame duck coach and in a tough spot.

Obvious JP is feeling the pressure with such unproductive comments - and others he made after several of last season's failures. But I think that comes with JP's personality where he has been able to control most everything going on around him - and making everything right by working harder & longer than others. He can't now & lacks the skills necessary to make winners out of the talent he recruits. Time & hard work can't make up for lack of coaching skills - they are learned by experience over a number of years by someone with the ability to listen & learn from others.

The quote is a classic and oft used deflection. "I am going to be criticized no matter what, so I should not pay attention to the criticism." While true, that a Basketball Coach will be criticized no matter what, there still exists a gulf between being criticized by a small minority of fans during a 40-0 title run* Pastner's weak hypothetical. And being criticized for a completely mediocre (being kind) season, in which numerous flaws warranted criticism. As others have stated here, it is becoming more and more obvious, Pastner's complete inability for honest self-evaluation choosing to rather depend on the "power of positive thinking" is a fatal flaw for our team and potentially his career.

(04-24-2015 02:05 PM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  The quote is a classic and oft used deflection. "I am going to be criticized no matter what, so I should not pay attention to the criticism." While true, that a Basketball Coach will be criticized no matter what, there still exists a gulf between being criticized by a small minority of fans during a 40-0 title run* Pastner's weak hypothetical. And being criticized for a completely mediocre (being kind) season, in which numerous flaws warranted criticism. As others have stated here, it is becoming more and more obvious, Pastner's complete inability for honest self-evaluation choosing to rather depend on the "power of positive thinking" is a fatal flaw for our team and potentially his career.

spot on

(04-24-2015 01:28 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:26 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:23 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 01:22 PM)450bench Wrote:  Josh is finished here.

He's still the HC.
We have a decent roster next year.

No reason we can't win next year. None.

And then, if he wants to stay, he stays.

I wouldn't say finished either but it's the bottom of the 9th we are two runs down there are 2 outs and Mariano Rivera is pitching

Lol. Well that analogy backfired.

(04-24-2015 12:45 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 12:28 PM)memphistiger001 Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 12:25 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 11:31 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  Grant Milner ‏@GrantMilner 2m2 minutes ago
Josh Pastner on @Sports56WHBQ: "If we went 40-0 and won the national championship, people would still knock me for something."

IMO, Josh hasn't done enough to ingratiate himself with the fanbase to make snarky comments like that. I like the guy, but taking constant jabs at the fans isn't the way to do things when you haven't won something of significance.

Josh is talking to the vocal minority.

Minority? I think not. More than half of tiger fans want him gone.

Link?