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(04-25-2015 07:30 PM)bignow Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 07:24 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Perriman can easily be a kid that will likely be drafted too high. Takes more than good 40 times to be a quality WR and the league's unemployment line is riddled with guys with "potential" to be good players. Most scouting reports have him as a fast rising prospect that has elite speed, NFL size but questionable hands and poor route running against questionable competition.

Not hating but I've laughed out loud a couple times seeing some folks build him up to be the next Jerry Rice.

Questionable competition, somebody needs to step up there game, LOL

Agreed...see ECU's CBs.

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(04-25-2015 07:24 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Perriman can easily be a kid that will likely be drafted too high. Takes more than good 40 times to be a quality WR and the league's unemployment line is riddled with guys with "potential" to be good players. Most scouting reports have him as a fast rising prospect that has elite speed, NFL size but questionable hands and poor route running against questionable competition.

Not hating but I've laughed out loud a couple times seeing some folks build him up to be the next Jerry Rice.

Hey Jerry was using stick em. Actually many of the folks I have read like his route running and commended him for being adept at the whole tree. Most of his drops were holmans fault btw.
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(04-25-2015 07:24 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Perriman can easily be a kid that will likely be drafted too high. Takes more than good 40 times to be a quality WR and the league's unemployment line is riddled with guys with "potential" to be good players. Most scouting reports have him as a fast rising prospect that has elite speed, NFL size but questionable hands and poor route running against questionable competition.

Not hating but I've laughed out loud a couple times seeing some folks build him up to be the next Jerry Rice.

Regardless of your opinion on Perriman, I trust the NFL scouts much more and they are the ones rating him so high. He does have his flaws and scouts can definitely be wrong, it's not an exact science. I think Perriman will have a great career in the league. But either way UCF is about to get another 1st round draft pick in consecutive years. That has to help with recruiting I would hope. I'm not sure how many other AAC schools can say the same.
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(04-24-2015 10:14 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
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(04-24-2015 06:39 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  UCF football factory? 03-lmfao


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You jelly? lol

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_E..._NFL_Draft (Wanna say we've had a more recent drafted player though)

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U..._NFL_draft

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Dont tell us us, we didn't write the headline. Someone more objective than either of us did....
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(04-25-2015 08:51 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 07:24 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Perriman can easily be a kid that will likely be drafted too high. Takes more than good 40 times to be a quality WR and the league's unemployment line is riddled with guys with "potential" to be good players. Most scouting reports have him as a fast rising prospect that has elite speed, NFL size but questionable hands and poor route running against questionable competition.

Not hating but I've laughed out loud a couple times seeing some folks build him up to be the next Jerry Rice.

Regardless of your opinion on Perriman, I trust the NFL scouts much more and they are the ones rating him so high. He does have his flaws and scouts can definitely be wrong, it's not an exact science. I think Perriman will have a great career in the league. But either way UCF is about to get another 1st round draft pick in consecutive years. That has to help with recruiting I would hope. I'm not sure how many other AAC schools can say the same.

If you do a search for Perriman he is your typical high ceiling high risk first round draft choice. I'm a big Bucs fan and would love him on my team but he doesn't have to be a number one WR and he would be given time to develop...and there is the rub with him and players like him where I don't see him as a an instant impact sure fire number 1 receiver any time soon. As somebody else wrote, it would be best for hi if he goes late in the first so he is not thrusted into a situation where he is expected to be the 'man' right away...which is what usually happens the higher in the first round.

"WEAKNESSES Raw in his routes, relying on speed and athleticism over any precision. Rounds routes and is inconsistent at selling and finishing routes that don't involve him as primary target. Sits and waits on the throw rather than working back to it. Redirected in his routes more than expected for receiver his size. Disappointing hands that might always haunt him. Slow catch readiness, allowing too many throws to beat him up. Too much double catching and his focus drops over second half of the season were maddening to watch."
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/b...id=2552597


One of the biggest knocks against Perriman is that he drops the ball a little more than he should. From what I’ve seen, he is a bare hand catcher and this problem can be fixed. Another potential negative is that Perriman didn’t play against elite competition in the American Athletic Conference and will have a significant adjustment to make once facing NFL caliber defenders.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/nfl-...-perriman/

Cons
- Incredibly raw route-runner; relies almost 100% on physical abilities
- Rounds off routes and the top and doesn't show sharp footwork
- Drops too many passes and sizeable amount of double catches
- Questions about his ability to run short and intermediate routes with timing and precision
- Goes quiet in too many games; three receptions or less in eight games last year
- Predictable; basic route tree allows him to be shut down with bracket coverage
- Projection based on potential; not NFL ready. High bust risk


http://nfldraftgeek.com/breshadperriman-...ofile.html
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(04-24-2015 12:45 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 12:41 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  ezu

And that is when You lose my respect and I step out of this conversation as you obviously are not an adult.


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What would you know about respect? It's something earned, not freely given. If you had to ask athe question did they just play or win, you need to step out of the conversation, because it shows you're just mouthing off without knowing anything about what you are saying.
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(04-26-2015 08:42 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 12:45 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 12:41 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  ezu

And that is when You lose my respect and I step out of this conversation as you obviously are not an adult.


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What would you know about respect? It's something earned, not freely given. If you had to ask athe question did they just play or win, you need to step out of the conversation, because it shows you're just mouthing off without knowing anything about what you are saying.

Or the Wikipedia article didn't clearly state and I'm not going to check for every single UCF player. ECU's article clearly stated "these players won super bowl rings"


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(04-26-2015 09:05 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
(04-26-2015 08:42 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 12:45 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 12:41 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  ezu

And that is when You lose my respect and I step out of this conversation as you obviously are not an adult.


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What would you know about respect? It's something earned, not freely given. If you had to ask athe question did they just play or win, you need to step out of the conversation, because it shows you're just mouthing off without knowing anything about what you are saying.

Or the Wikipedia article didn't clearly state and I'm not going to check for every single UCF player.

One click on Google and you have your answer:

UCF Players With a Super Bowl Ring
Michael Gruttadauria - St. Louis Rams - Super Bowl XXXIV
Cornell Green - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Super Bowl XXXVII
Charles Lee - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Super Bowl XXXVII
Asante Samuel - New England Patriots - Super Bowl XXXVIII and Super Bowl XXXIX
Darcy Johnson - New York Giants - Super Bowl XLII
Atari Bigby - Green Bay Packers - Super Bowl XLV
Michael Greco - Green Bay Packers - Super Bowl XLV
Josh Sitton - Green Bay Packers - Super Bowl XLV
Jah Reid - Baltimore Ravens - Super Bowl XLVII
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(04-26-2015 07:23 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 08:51 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 07:24 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Perriman can easily be a kid that will likely be drafted too high. Takes more than good 40 times to be a quality WR and the league's unemployment line is riddled with guys with "potential" to be good players. Most scouting reports have him as a fast rising prospect that has elite speed, NFL size but questionable hands and poor route running against questionable competition.

Not hating but I've laughed out loud a couple times seeing some folks build him up to be the next Jerry Rice.

Regardless of your opinion on Perriman, I trust the NFL scouts much more and they are the ones rating him so high. He does have his flaws and scouts can definitely be wrong, it's not an exact science. I think Perriman will have a great career in the league. But either way UCF is about to get another 1st round draft pick in consecutive years. That has to help with recruiting I would hope. I'm not sure how many other AAC schools can say the same.

If you do a search for Perriman he is your typical high ceiling high risk first round draft choice. I'm a big Bucs fan and would love him on my team but he doesn't have to be a number one WR and he would be given time to develop...and there is the rub with him and players like him where I don't see him as a an instant impact sure fire number 1 receiver any time soon. As somebody else wrote, it would be best for hi if he goes late in the first so he is not thrusted into a situation where he is expected to be the 'man' right away...which is what usually happens the higher in the first round.

"WEAKNESSES Raw in his routes, relying on speed and athleticism over any precision. Rounds routes and is inconsistent at selling and finishing routes that don't involve him as primary target. Sits and waits on the throw rather than working back to it. Redirected in his routes more than expected for receiver his size. Disappointing hands that might always haunt him. Slow catch readiness, allowing too many throws to beat him up. Too much double catching and his focus drops over second half of the season were maddening to watch."
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/b...id=2552597


One of the biggest knocks against Perriman is that he drops the ball a little more than he should. From what I’ve seen, he is a bare hand catcher and this problem can be fixed. Another potential negative is that Perriman didn’t play against elite competition in the American Athletic Conference and will have a significant adjustment to make once facing NFL caliber defenders.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/nfl-...-perriman/

Cons
- Incredibly raw route-runner; relies almost 100% on physical abilities
- Rounds off routes and the top and doesn't show sharp footwork
- Drops too many passes and sizeable amount of double catches
- Questions about his ability to run short and intermediate routes with timing and precision
- Goes quiet in too many games; three receptions or less in eight games last year
- Predictable; basic route tree allows him to be shut down with bracket coverage
- Projection based on potential; not NFL ready. High bust risk


http://nfldraftgeek.com/breshadperriman-...ofile.html

You only pointed out the negatives so ill post all the positives for you so its little more balanced.

STRENGTHS Height, weight and speed numbers that every team covets. Quick accelerator off the snap and destroys the cushion, forcing cornerbacks into "turn-and-run" mode. More sudden than most big receivers. Able to break routes off sharply or go from stop to start instantly. Consistent separation at top of his route. Always gets over the top of cornerbacks on verticals. Varies route speed and has ability to body up and box out smaller cornerbacks downfield. Explosive leaper with timing and catch radius to make the difficult catches look easy. Shows off plus body control and ball tracking on deep ball. Able to gear up or down when needed and is a legitimate big-play threat on every snap. Athleticism and long speed for yards-after-catch production. Gives good effort as run blocker.

Pros

Perriman is waiting until his pro day to run the 40-syard dash due to an injury, so we won’t have an official 40 time for a few more weeks. However, he looks fast on tape and his YPC (yards per catch) numbers back up this sentiment. Perriman has ideal size for an NFL receiver (roughly 6’3 – 210 lbs.) and is difficult to bring down after the catch. He uses his size well when high-pointing the ball and making contested catches down the field (as shown in the GIF below). His combination of size, speed, and ability to stretch the field will make him highly coveted come draft day.

Pros

Combo of size and speed is drool worthy; men that big are not supposed to run that fast
Can eat up cushion in a heartbeat and flat-out run by corners in man coverage
Strong, big-bodied and physical
Explosive first step and acceleration
Tracks the ball exceptionally well downfield
Does a great job positioning his body to shield defenders from the ball
Suddenness out of his breaks; can sink hips, plant foot and explode in opposite direction
Tough to tackle after the catch
Excellent leaping ability; can elevate over defensive backs and pluck ball at zenith
Immense upside, potential and room to grow

Like i said he will likely be a first round pick giving UCF a first round draft pick in consecutive years and I don't think there are many schools in our conference if any who can say the same. Should help with recruiting.
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(04-24-2015 03:37 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Ucf only lost 1 AAC game in 2 football seasons. That took 40 degree rain and 5 turnovers to happen. Pretty dominating by my book.

So rain beat ucf?

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(04-26-2015 01:10 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 03:37 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Ucf only lost 1 AAC game in 2 football seasons. That took 40 degree rain and 5 turnovers to happen. Pretty dominating by my book.

So rain beat ucf?

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No but run plus 40 degree weather plus the oline not being able to run the ball. Not a good combo for a team relying on the pass 60% of the time. Didn't help that oleary left the heaters off
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can't wait to watch Holman shoot up draft boards this fall leading UCF to another AAC title
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(04-26-2015 03:35 PM)knightastic Wrote:  can't wait to watch Holman shoot up draft boards this fall leading UCF to another AAC title
    Things Holman needs before we can even talk NFL potential
  • Better decision making - i.e. don't constantly throw into triple coverage and hope your WR's can pull you out of the fire.
  • Learn that not every throw has to compete with Nolan Ryan. It looks like he's learned this in the offseason.
  • Better control of the offense and pre-snap reads. With the youth in the offense, we'll see where he stands with this.
  • Better accuracy.

If he shows the same improvement that Blake saw between 2011-2013, there's no reason Holman can't be as good or better, especially given his arm strength. I think where Bortles was better is his pocket sense, and his ability to elude defenders and extend the play. I didn't see much of that from Holman last year, though I wasn't looking for it.
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(04-26-2015 05:45 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(04-26-2015 03:35 PM)knightastic Wrote:  can't wait to watch Holman shoot up draft boards this fall leading UCF to another AAC title
    Things Holman needs before we can even talk NFL potential
  • Better decision making - i.e. don't constantly throw into triple coverage and hope your WR's can pull you out of the fire.
  • Learn that not every throw has to compete with Nolan Ryan. It looks like he's learned this in the offseason.
  • Better control of the offense and pre-snap reads. With the youth in the offense, we'll see where he stands with this.
  • Better accuracy.

If he shows the same improvement that Blake saw between 2011-2013, there's no reason Holman can't be as good or better, especially given his arm strength. I think where Bortles was better is his pocket sense, and his ability to elude defenders and extend the play. I didn't see much of that from Holman last year, though I wasn't looking for it.

Actually he excelled in pocket presence against byu and other games. His issue was an imploding oline. His touch was better in the spring. He did a lot of running in hs and some last year but they have tried to keep him from tucking and running like he was doing early on
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(04-25-2015 08:51 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 07:24 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Perriman can easily be a kid that will likely be drafted too high. Takes more than good 40 times to be a quality WR and the league's unemployment line is riddled with guys with "potential" to be good players. Most scouting reports have him as a fast rising prospect that has elite speed, NFL size but questionable hands and poor route running against questionable competition.

Not hating but I've laughed out loud a couple times seeing some folks build him up to be the next Jerry Rice.

Regardless of your opinion on Perriman, I trust the NFL scouts much more and they are the ones rating him so high. He does have his flaws and scouts can definitely be wrong, it's not an exact science. I think Perriman will have a great career in the league. But either way UCF is about to get another 1st round draft pick in consecutive years. That has to help with recruiting I would hope. I'm not sure how many other AAC schools can say the same.

No current AAC member has had 1st rounders in back to back years in the last 25 years. I'll have to research further back to see when/if it's actually happened.
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(04-27-2015 06:22 AM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 08:51 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 07:24 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Perriman can easily be a kid that will likely be drafted too high. Takes more than good 40 times to be a quality WR and the league's unemployment line is riddled with guys with "potential" to be good players. Most scouting reports have him as a fast rising prospect that has elite speed, NFL size but questionable hands and poor route running against questionable competition.

Not hating but I've laughed out loud a couple times seeing some folks build him up to be the next Jerry Rice.

Regardless of your opinion on Perriman, I trust the NFL scouts much more and they are the ones rating him so high. He does have his flaws and scouts can definitely be wrong, it's not an exact science. I think Perriman will have a great career in the league. But either way UCF is about to get another 1st round draft pick in consecutive years. That has to help with recruiting I would hope. I'm not sure how many other AAC schools can say the same.

No current AAC member has had 1st rounders in back to back years in the last 25 years. I'll have to research further back to see when/if it's actually happened.

Interesting find.

#statoftheday

Obviously if it did occur 25 plus years ago...it would probably be one of the older programs that have been playing Div I-A Football for a long time (i.e. Temple, Tulane, SMU, Houston, Memphis, Cinci etc...)
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(04-26-2015 01:10 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 03:37 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Ucf only lost 1 AAC game in 2 football seasons. That took 40 degree rain and 5 turnovers to happen. Pretty dominating by my book.

So rain beat ucf?

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Well Memphis sure didn't.
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On Saturday, Mel Kiper predicted up to 8 WR's would/could be drafted in the 1st Round on Thursday Night and Mel had Perriman being the 4th WR taken.

Had a late lunch yesterday, saw on a TV at restaurant that some on ESPN had a Mock Draft...and Perriman was selected #20 to the Eagles.

I hope Perriman can land on a team with a good offense/experienced QB...and most of those teams are in the Bottom 10 of the 1st Round.

Eagles are in a unique situation...as no one can predict what Chip Kelly will do (trade Bradford and move up in draft?).
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