Gov't schools probably need to get fast food out of the lunch line first. It'd be nice if they went back to actually cooking. I suggest everybody watch this.

http://fedupmovie.com/#/page/home

(04-29-2015 08:57 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 08:49 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 08:39 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 08:29 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-28-2015 11:50 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  It is okay, many people still do not know how serous these allergies really are and how little exposure is needed to be fatal. Like I said I had eaten a pack of nabs earlier, an hour or two, I had finished a Pepsi after that. But, there was still enough peanut residue on my lips and teeth to cause a reaction after a quick kiss hello. It only takes one small slip to happen and someone can die. I like you never knew anyone growing up with a peanut allergy until I met my GF, she is still one of only two people I know that have a peanut allergy. But, I can see the reason for what seems like an extreme reaction with "peanut free areas" at schools, the risk just isn't worth it.

As to the cause, like many other things like autism, other alergies, and illnesses that are more prevalent today than in the past is that is not one single cause for each. But, it is multiple factors, vaccines, over medication, chemicals used on crops, chemical used food production, artificial chemical used in daily life, hormones pumped to live stock and medication. Over use of antibacterials killing many good, none harmful Bacteria. Just like with cancer, I think there is no one single cause. My Grandfather smoked from the time he was 15 to his death at 87. He only ever had a mild case of COPD that last two year of his life. But, I had a Assistant Principle in HS who never smoked get lung cancer and die 3 months after finding out and he was 42. Medical Science has come a long way, but there is still a lot we do not know.

You need to be careful blaming vaccines without evidence, because it grants credence to the parents who have no basis for their antivaccination beliefs. Vaccines are one of, if not the single best researched medical treatments of all time.

There are documented cases of children developing Autism immediately after getting a vaccine. It is rare and not the cause in the vast majority of cases, but it happens. Vaccines are generally safe relavtive to most of the diseases they prevent, but it is not 100%.

Not saying it didn't happen, but did those documented cases specifically cite the vaccine as to the cause of the autism?

It just reminds me of people that claim the flu vaccine gave them the flu the day after they took the vaccine. Nevermind the fact that that particular vaccine takes multiple days to work and they could have caught the flu days before getting the vaccine in the first place.

I believe there is no statistical link between vaccines and autism as the studies show. If 5 out of 100 children are on the autism spectrum and 1 and 1,000,000 develop it due to a vaccine reaction, there is no statistical link. That doesn't mean it never happens. As far as the flu vaccine is concerned, my son and I will be getting our first ever this fall to appease the wife as we will be having a newborn in October that we obviously don't want to get the flu in its first 6 months of life. We will be getting the nasal mist. That said, I have yet to see any evidence that the flu vaccine does any good and is not something we will be getting again. This year, my son's entire class got the flu... except him and he was the only one that didn't get the flu mist. He still has perfect attendance. In most cases, the vaccine is worth the minimal risk. The flu doesn't fall in that category IMO. We are only doing it this year to appease momma.

I just had a son back in October. I had to get the T-Dap Shot which is a Flu, Tetanus and Pertussis(Whooping cough) shot all in one. There is a nasal spray version?

I don't know about tetanus and whooping cough, but there is a spray for the flu virus.

(04-29-2015 01:53 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I don't know about tetanus and whooping cough, but there is a spray for the flu virus.

Yep, one quick spray up the nose sure beats 10 minutes of ear piercing shrieking for a millisecond shot, at least when it comes to kids.

(04-29-2015 02:21 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 01:53 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I don't know about tetanus and whooping cough, but there is a spray for the flu virus.

Yep, one quick spray up the nose sure beats 10 minutes of ear piercing shrieking for a millisecond shot, at least when it comes to kids.

There are some age indications for the nasal spray that you might want to check out, it's a live attenuated (very, very weakened) virus as opposed to the shot which is not a live virus, and that means young children, older adults, and those with any compromised immunity should probably get the shot instead. CDC states it's recommended for people 2-49 years of age.

(04-29-2015 02:43 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 02:21 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 01:53 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I don't know about tetanus and whooping cough, but there is a spray for the flu virus.

Yep, one quick spray up the nose sure beats 10 minutes of ear piercing shrieking for a millisecond shot, at least when it comes to kids.

There are some age indications for the nasal spray that you might want to check out, it's a live attenuated (very, very weakened) virus as opposed to the shot which is not a live virus, and that means young children, older adults, and those with any compromised immunity should probably get the shot instead. CDC states it's recommended for people 2-49 years of age.

Yep, as a responsible parent I looked into all that. My kids are both older than 6 so everything was fine. Of course, the obligatory ice cream afterwards was icing on the cake, at least for the kids.

Hah, sorry, I wasn't saying that in a 'to make sure you did this' way but more in a 'just in case others read this and expect to be able to have a nasal spray but might not qualify'.

If I were a teacher, I would turn a blind eye to this.

This is exhibit #353 as to why it may be worth the money to send your kid to a private school.

It also doesn't contain the additives that the anti-vaxers say can cause harm. The biggest risk is you might get mildly sick for a few days. I wouldn't give it to the elderly or to a baby, but it is the only one I will do and the only one I'll let my healthy 6-year old do.

(04-29-2015 02:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  It also doesn't contain the additives that the anti-vaxers say can cause harm. The biggest risk is you might get mildly sick for a few days. I wouldn't give it to the elderly or to a baby, but it is the only one I will do and the only one I'll let my healthy 6-year old do.

Please stop perpetuating the idea that any of their claims have merit, they really don't. As for the 'additives', I'm sure it contains many additives that sound scary or can be described menacingly, but like their other claims, these are nonsense.

Anti-vaxers are some of the biggest idiots on the planet. I lost a lot of respect for a good friend and his wife after some of their moronic facebook posts.

(04-29-2015 02:55 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 02:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  It also doesn't contain the additives that the anti-vaxers say can cause harm. The biggest risk is you might get mildly sick for a few days. I wouldn't give it to the elderly or to a baby, but it is the only one I will do and the only one I'll let my healthy 6-year old do.

Please stop perpetuating the idea that any of their claims have merit, they really don't. As for the 'additives', I'm sure it contains many additives that sound scary or can be described menacingly, but like their other claims, these are nonsense.

You might be right, but for the flu, it ain't worth the risk. I'll take the nasal spray. I really don't inheritly trust anything the government, pharmaceutical companies, big business, medical industry and media sell yearly in unison as a must have with no data to support their claim. It doesn't pass the smell test, proof or not.