Will we ever get a vote..or a small say? If we really commit to an opinion and then watch the opposite happen...another disappointment will pile on top.

The whole thing is such a can of worms and people have good reasons for both sides.

(04-21-2015 06:53 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  GP is dead on. No reason a kid should have to sit a year when a coach can move at will.

agree

(04-21-2015 03:58 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:56 PM)MemTigerFan Wrote:  I say no.

Best to say none at all.

Why doe?

Because unscrupulous coaches, boosters or www types would immediately begin to snipe players from other teams at will. $$$

(04-22-2015 11:17 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:58 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:56 PM)MemTigerFan Wrote:  I say no.

Best to say none at all.

Why doe?

Because unscrupulous coaches, boosters or www types would immediately begin to snipe players from other teams at will. $$$

Exactly.

If we look at all the industry aspects of the situation, there has to be some transfer rules in place.

if we look at the athletes, some get screwed.

No perfect solutions, so you save the industry because the most overall benefit happens there.

Where's Jamammy's screaming donkey when you really need it

(04-22-2015 11:17 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:58 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:56 PM)MemTigerFan Wrote:  I say no.

Best to say none at all.

Why doe?

Because unscrupulous coaches, boosters or www types would immediately begin to snipe players from other teams at will. $$$

Sounds like you're concerned for the poor, mistreated universities - moreso than the "student athletes"...

(04-22-2015 12:23 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 11:17 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:58 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:56 PM)MemTigerFan Wrote:  I say no.

Best to say none at all.

Why doe?

Because unscrupulous coaches, boosters or www types would immediately begin to snipe players from other teams at will. $$$

Sounds like you're concerned for the poor, mistreated universities - moreso than the "student athletes"...

Is there some middle ground? If the players get free reign on all transfer privileges, won't it have some serious consequences that no one wants....even the players?

O no..now I'm actually thinking about this conundrum that has no solution.


sorry. by now.

(04-22-2015 12:23 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 11:17 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:58 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:56 PM)MemTigerFan Wrote:  I say no.

Best to say none at all.

Why doe?

Because unscrupulous coaches, boosters or www types would immediately begin to snipe players from other teams at will. $$$

Sounds like you're concerned for the poor, mistreated universities - moreso than the "student athletes"...

Wow! You deciphered my encrypted post.

One of many reasons institutions of higher learning shouldn't be in the business of athletics. Spin revenue producing sports off from the university, license the name/branding, rent the facilities, and let the athletes be compensated commiserate to their talent. If that involves 1, 2, 3, 4 year contracts then so be it.

(04-22-2015 01:03 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  One of many reasons institutions of higher learning shouldn't be in the business of athletics. Spin revenue producing sports off from the university, license the name/branding, rent the facilities, and let the athletes be compensated commiserate to their talent. If that involves 1, 2, 3, 4 year contracts then so be it.

Good luck with that lol

yup, the genie is out of the bottle. You've made places of higher learning become sources of entertainment. Can't go back.

(04-22-2015 12:39 PM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 12:23 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 11:17 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:58 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:56 PM)MemTigerFan Wrote:  I say no.

Best to say none at all.

Why doe?

Because unscrupulous coaches, boosters or www types would immediately begin to snipe players from other teams at will. $$$

Sounds like you're concerned for the poor, mistreated universities - moreso than the "student athletes"...

Wow! You deciphered my encrypted post.

Nothing was encrypted. You stated you were concerned about coaches and outsiders beginning to "snipe players from other teams at will..."

That doesn't hurt ANYONE except the school getting "sniped". The kid would benefit or at least he would believe he is benefitting himself (why leave if he believed otherwise) and I'm all for THAT!

So...to be clear, you are in favor of protecting universities & coaches rather than unpaid "student athletes" ...?

I believe the school, the Head Coach and the NCAA all need to have to review the transfer application, and they all have to approve the transfer. And, the criteria has to be more important than just "I want to transfer just to transfer".

(04-22-2015 03:08 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  I believe the school, the Head Coach and the NCAA all need to have to review the transfer application, and they all have to approve the transfer. And, the criteria has to be more important than just "I want to transfer just to transfer".

Why shouldn't a kid be allowed to "transfer just to transfer" ?

I think any player wanting to transfer to Memphis should be allowed to play immediately.

How about we line them all up against the wall and shoot them.

(04-22-2015 03:31 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  I think any player wanting to transfer to Memphis should be allowed to play immediately.

spot on

(04-21-2015 06:53 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  GP is dead on. No reason a kid should have to sit a year when a coach can move at will.

Coaches sign a contract and have a penalty if they leave before the contract is up. So there should be some penalty for a player transferring as well. Pretty fair now that players have to sit out a year but get an extra year to play. If all players could play immediately it would be mass chaos.

(04-22-2015 02:51 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 12:39 PM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 12:23 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 11:17 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:58 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Why doe?

Because unscrupulous coaches, boosters or www types would immediately begin to snipe players from other teams at will. $$$

Sounds like you're concerned for the poor, mistreated universities - moreso than the "student athletes"...

Wow! You deciphered my encrypted post.

Nothing was encrypted. You stated you were concerned about coaches and outsiders beginning to "snipe players from other teams at will..."

That doesn't hurt ANYONE except the school getting "sniped". The kid would benefit or at least he would believe he is benefitting himself (why leave if he believed otherwise) and I'm all for THAT!

So...to be clear, you are in favor of protecting universities & coaches rather than unpaid "student athletes" ...?

Well your response took liberties to state that I was concerned with the poor mistreated schools more than the student athlete. I said nothing to that effect. Which is the reason for my encrypted remark.

Rules concerning transfers are there to help keep the playing field level, especially with football. Without these rules in place the best players could be lured to transfer. We all know there are less than above board tactics used to sign high school recruits. What makes you think that would not be the same case if transfer rules allowed the student athlete to transfer because he just didn't like his coach, or teammates, or he isn't getting playing time he thinks he should be getting?

Consider you have a player who in his sophomore year has an outstanding season at QB and is in the national spotlight. Another school promises him the moon and stars to come play for them. And so he leaves. So this move only hurts the school and coaches? And you actually think this?

And just to be clear..I am in favor of rules that protect both parties.

To me, if a player is getting a scholarship, board and education, there should be a better reason, than "I just want to transfer". School should not be just an athletic clearinghouse. It should be, first, a way for kids who are on scholarship, a way to get an education. The school, HC and NCAA should have that in mind at all times. This would slow down all these transfers.

I am not against a player transferring if he can't handle the academics, or him and the HC and the school are not on the same goal. I am not saying they can't transfer, they just have to think really hard and think about if transferring is best for their future.

(04-22-2015 03:29 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 03:08 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  I believe the school, the Head Coach and the NCAA all need to have to review the transfer application, and they all have to approve the transfer. And, the criteria has to be more important than just "I want to transfer just to transfer".

Why shouldn't a kid be allowed to "transfer just to transfer" ?