(04-24-2015 10:54 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Marshall isn't going anywhere. The previous poster was correct in that we take props and the AAC does not allow that. And I think UAB will go to the Atlantic Sun. From what I understand, it has pretty good baseball/softball and basketball.

Forgive my ignorance, but could someone tell me what it means to "take props?" When I saw it earlier in the thread (when it led from the mention of academics), I assumed it had to do with athletes' relationships to Prop 48, but now that I see it's a more common term, I don't know what it means...

(04-24-2015 01:26 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Sorry, we've never had any good equipment. :/

Leather helmets and burlap uniforms aren't so bad, right?

Btw, you may already know this, but Chancellor Witt was the president of UT Arlington from 1995-2003. He was sent to UTA by UT-BOR to quell any unrest during the most tumultuous times in Arlington. He has great experience in dealing with and appeasing university system separatists, mending race relations and cleaning up mess left by incompetent leaders.

UNT, UT-Arlington, UT-Dallas and UT-SW Medical Center (research hospital) once conspired to create its own DFW-based university system.

(04-22-2015 07:20 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 10:14 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  I think Hawaii is undoubtedly in big trouble, but I think BYU jumps back onto the MWC ship since they need a conference to give them a chance to the playoffs and not sure if Big 12 would ever throw them a bone

(04-21-2015 07:25 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:58 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:55 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I don't see CUSA expanding. They're probably waiting on the Mtn West to take UTEP so they can be at 12.

What is the MWC doing taking UTEP?

Hawaii's AD has stated football may very well go away. They have a deficit approaching $3 million and have posted major deficits 11 of the past 13 years. Winning 4 games the 2 years has them struggling to sell season tickets. UTEP is just salivating at the thought of dumping the far flung CUSA.

It makes the most sense for utep to be in mwc with other like schools in the western time zones. rice and marshall seem to be the remaining odd members of cusa that need to move to the aac.

Marshall's only hope is the Big XII takes an AAC school. With 12 medmbers they have no reason to expand UNLESS they are brought in as the 6th Power Conference and grow to 14 or 16 teams.

(04-22-2015 02:27 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 03:11 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  If we lose 1 member- ga st. USA or whoever-- do we just stay at 10 or do we still try for 12 in football and in Olympic sports?

SIAP, but if it is Georgia State, force NMSU to bring all sports in or, adios. If they do then we go with two five team divisions and boom, we have a CCG. If it's South, then see above.

You wouldn't have to force NMSU to bring in all sports, they've wanted to do that since they entered the Conference. The Eastern schools don't want them, but until NMSU gets all sports in, the East will never get another team.

(04-24-2015 01:26 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  Everyone knows that if UAB doesn't bring back football CUSA will have uneven divisions. But something not to overlook is the access bowl. The highest rated champion from SBC, CUSA, MWC, AAC, or MAC gets the access bowl, which would mean an additional $4 million in the CFP payout. Adding a member slightly increases the likelihood that a CUSA school gets that slot. Marshall almost did it this past year. And let's not forget that CUSA might need to add a school for tv value.

THIS is why I think that IF CUSA does replace UAB in football, they might be looking at a team to raise their football power rating. This may be a priority over that of TV DMA. Bringing in a new State/Market is going to be important going forward. That conference has never had a presence in that gaping hole in the middle of their conference map. That hole with over 10 Million in population. They may decide to stay at 13, but that is an ugly number. I believe that IF they decide to go back to 14, they might look at Georgia instead of Alabama? GA has twice the population with a market that isn't close to the saturation of the state of Alabama.

But then they have a hole in the Alabama slot. So who knows.
I suppose that USA is closer for a lot of their members than GAST or GS.
Maybe USA gets an invite.

But If you are looking for increasing your chances of reaching that 4Million payout, then you need to raise the football ranking of your conference and maybe give yourself a team that might make such run sooner than later. All three of these teams have potential, I just think (biased I know ) that given the population/market saturation/location, football ability, etc.... that GS might get a look.

I'm not saying we want to go, just that we are probably the best program from a state that they don't already have a presence in that will help them in the quest of the access spot.
Ark State could give them power/presence of a new state to, but then you are talking about what 3Million in population?

(04-23-2015 10:10 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 10:07 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  The OSKR study mentions that UAB's desire, if they get kicked out of C-USA, is to put basketball in the MVC and park the other sports in a more regional league.

Surely y'all could use another member in golf, cross country, baseball, soccer, and softball.

If UAB is forced out, the Sun Belt has the power in that situation. NO WAY should the Sun Belt let UAB in for Olympic sports without bringing basketball. I know you put a wink face at the end, but still.

I hope UAB somehow keeps football and remains in CUSA. If not, they would not be forced/kicked out. They would opt to leave by dropping football.

(04-25-2015 08:48 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 10:10 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 10:07 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  The OSKR study mentions that UAB's desire, if they get kicked out of C-USA, is to put basketball in the MVC and park the other sports in a more regional league.

Surely y'all could use another member in golf, cross country, baseball, soccer, and softball.

If UAB is forced out, the Sun Belt has the power in that situation. NO WAY should the Sun Belt let UAB in for Olympic sports without bringing basketball. I know you put a wink face at the end, but still.

I hope UAB somehow keeps football and remains in CUSA. If not, they would not be forced/kicked out. They would opt to leave by dropping football.

Its simply too late. They would be 4 - 5 years getting back to FBS football.

It only takes one school to deny CUSA for the perception to change. If South were to get an invite I would like to say I want them to decline. But it will take some coordination, and trust, of other conference schools that they too would decline an invite. Give me USM and the current SBC over what is in CUSA.

If the SBC does lose a member and fall to 10 in football, add UMass for football only and a school from FCS for the 2017 season (bowl eligible in 2018). Give notice to Idaho in letting them know that 2019 will be their last season in the league, and then bring along another FCS school to replace them. Repeat with UMass in time for the 2021 season.

Sun Belt, 2021:

West - NMSU, Texas State, Louisiana, ULM, Arkansas State, Missouri State
East - Troy, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, App State, Eastern Kentucky, Jacksonville State/UAB

Wichita State becomes the third non-football member of the Sun Belt when Missouri State is brought on, delivering a huge blow to the Missouri Valley.

(04-26-2015 06:23 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  If the SBC does lose a member and fall to 10 in football, add UMass for football only and a school from FCS for the 2017 season (bowl eligible in 2018). Give notice to Idaho in letting them know that 2019 will be their last season in the league, and then bring along another FCS school to replace them. Repeat with UMass in time for the 2021 season.

Sun Belt, 2021:

West - NMSU, Texas State, Louisiana, ULM, Arkansas State, Missouri State
East - Troy, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, App State, Eastern Kentucky, Jacksonville State/UAB

Wichita State becomes the third non-football member of the Sun Belt when Missouri State is brought on, delivering a huge blow to the Missouri Valley.

Either you forgot USA, or expect them to not be in the Sun Belt...

(04-26-2015 06:31 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 06:23 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  If the SBC does lose a member and fall to 10 in football, add UMass for football only and a school from FCS for the 2017 season (bowl eligible in 2018). Give notice to Idaho in letting them know that 2019 will be their last season in the league, and then bring along another FCS school to replace them. Repeat with UMass in time for the 2021 season.

Sun Belt, 2021:

West - NMSU, Texas State, Louisiana, ULM, Arkansas State, Missouri State
East - Troy, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, App State, Eastern Kentucky, Jacksonville State/UAB

Wichita State becomes the third non-football member of the Sun Belt when Missouri State is brought on, delivering a huge blow to the Missouri Valley.

Either you forgot USA, or expect them to not be in the Sun Belt...

Liberty replaces you as you go to CUSA

Yes, I am assuming USA to C-USA. I also assume Liberty will not have the votes to get in the SBC.

(04-26-2015 01:43 PM)Usajags Wrote:  It only takes one school to deny CUSA for the perception to change. If South were to get an invite I would like to say I want them to decline. But it will take some coordination, and trust, of other conference schools that they too would decline an invite. Give me USM and the current SBC over what is in CUSA.

And then someone looks up the conference rankings for any major sport. Just like everyone in the G5, you have to focus on winning games and growing your respective school's fanbase.

(04-26-2015 07:50 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Yes, I am assuming USA to C-USA. I also assume Liberty will not have the votes to get in the SBC.

It.was.a.joke.

(04-26-2015 07:55 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 01:43 PM)Usajags Wrote:  It only takes one school to deny CUSA for the perception to change. If South were to get an invite I would like to say I want them to decline. But it will take some coordination, and trust, of other conference schools that they too would decline an invite. Give me USM and the current SBC over what is in CUSA.

And then someone looks up the conference rankings for any major sport. Just like everyone in the G5, you have to focus on winning games and growing your respective school's fanbase.

It's about perception and CUSA is the next rung up the ladder.

(04-26-2015 08:09 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 07:55 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 01:43 PM)Usajags Wrote:  It only takes one school to deny CUSA for the perception to change. If South were to get an invite I would like to say I want them to decline. But it will take some coordination, and trust, of other conference schools that they too would decline an invite. Give me USM and the current SBC over what is in CUSA.

And then someone looks up the conference rankings for any major sport. Just like everyone in the G5, you have to focus on winning games and growing your respective school's fanbase.

It's about perception and CUSA is the next rung up the ladder.

You can bow down and kiss coosa's ring, but I'm glad we have current ADs that won't.

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(04-26-2015 08:09 PM)panama Wrote:  It's about perception and CUSA is the next rung up the ladder.

Perception can be changed by a Sun Belt school denying an invite publicly.

(04-26-2015 10:20 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 08:09 PM)panama Wrote:  It's about perception and CUSA is the next rung up the ladder.

Perception can be changed by a Sun Belt school denying an invite publicly.

Ohhhhhh Gawd, Larry wouldn't .. . Would he?

(04-26-2015 10:20 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 08:09 PM)panama Wrote:  It's about perception and CUSA is the next rung up the ladder.

Perception can be changed by a Sun Belt school denying an invite publicly.

Pipe dream

(04-26-2015 10:38 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 10:20 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 08:09 PM)panama Wrote:  It's about perception and CUSA is the next rung up the ladder.

Perception can be changed by a Sun Belt school denying an invite publicly.

Pipe dream

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