... because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Somebody better tell the Russians.


Their recent testing of US defenses, parking military ships in Cuba, and threatening European countries with annihilation for taking part in NATO operations certainly flies in the face of Obama's assertion. Now supplying Iran with the world's most advanced missile defense system (possibly outside of known US capabilities) is just another step Russia is taking to put itself in the best position to win a possible confrontation, while earning the favor of a sizable chunk of the Muslim would who would gladly support Russia in the next world war.

Putin knows that Obama is hopelessly lost in regards to foreign policy and recognizes the weak position that Obama has put the US in. Putin is very calculating and I don't believe he will really press the issue until he is positive he has an unbeatable hand, yet I do think he may be pressured further increase his position before the end of Obama's term.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/russia-...rld-war-3/

Interesting article though I do think it makes more than a few assumptions. In any case this article just demonstrates how weak the US is perceived as being under this administration.

The most lasting effect about the Gulf War II is that it turned American's off from using the military to solve conflicts aboard. It's an open secret and a challenge that I think all administrations will find difficult to surmount in the next twenty years. With more flexibility regarding energy and suppliers willing to crawl over glass for access to US markets, the non-interventionist position is understandable.

Russia is taking advantage of America's retreat. Putin OTOH needs to draw nations into Russia sphere of influence. Those they can't coarse economically they will do so by force. Putin needs to find a way to get some relief from US sanctions as well as get oil trading back in the triple digits. It appears that his moves with Iran and the EU appear to be in service to those goals.

(04-21-2015 09:15 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  The most lasting effect about the Gulf War II is that it turned American's off from using the military to solve conflicts aboard. It's an open secret and a challenge that I think all administrations will find difficult to surmount in the next twenty years. With more flexibility regarding energy and suppliers willing to crawl over glass for access to US markets, the non-interventionist position is understandable.

Russia is taking advantage of America's retreat. Putin OTOH needs to draw nations into Russia sphere of influence. Those they can't coarse economically they will do so by force. Putin needs to find a way to get some relief from US sanctions as well as get oil trading back in the triple digits. It appears that his moves with Iran and the EU appear to be in service to those goals.

Oil reliably above $100 barrel is pretty much over, and sanctions won't be lifted unless Putin changes his course which he won't do. The inevitable conclusion is a military standoff during which only one party is capable of leading the US.

(04-21-2015 10:45 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 09:15 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  The most lasting effect about the Gulf War II is that it turned American's off from using the military to solve conflicts aboard. It's an open secret and a challenge that I think all administrations will find difficult to surmount in the next twenty years. With more flexibility regarding energy and suppliers willing to crawl over glass for access to US markets, the non-interventionist position is understandable.

Russia is taking advantage of America's retreat. Putin OTOH needs to draw nations into Russia sphere of influence. Those they can't coarse economically they will do so by force. Putin needs to find a way to get some relief from US sanctions as well as get oil trading back in the triple digits. It appears that his moves with Iran and the EU appear to be in service to those goals.

Oil reliably above $100 barrel is pretty much over, and sanctions won't be lifted unless Putin changes his course which he won't do. The inevitable conclusion is a military standoff during which only one party is capable of leading the US.

The price of oil is a question the only the Saudis and the commodities market can answer. I agree though that Putin's hopes of leveraging the EU/US relationship for relief from sanctions appears to have failed on the economic front. We'll see if he does anything militarily in the Baltics to stir up some trouble.

(04-21-2015 07:43 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  ... because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Somebody better tell the Russians.


Their recent testing of US defenses, parking military ships in Cuba, and threatening European countries with annihilation for taking part in NATO operations certainly flies in the face of Obama's assertion. Now supplying Iran with the world's most advanced missile defense system (possibly outside of known US capabilities) is just another step Russia is taking to put itself in the best position to win a possible confrontation, while earning the favor of a sizable chunk of the Muslim would who would gladly support Russia in the next world war.

Putin knows that Obama is hopelessly lost in regards to foreign policy and recognizes the weak position that Obama has put the US in. Putin is very calculating and I don't believe he will really press the issue until he is positive he has an unbeatable hand, yet I do think he may be pressured further increase his position before the end of Obama's term.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/russia-...rld-war-3/

Interesting article though I do think it makes more than a few assumptions. In any case this article just demonstrates how weak the US is perceived as being under this administration.

Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

(04-21-2015 12:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 07:43 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  ... because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Somebody better tell the Russians.


Their recent testing of US defenses, parking military ships in Cuba, and threatening European countries with annihilation for taking part in NATO operations certainly flies in the face of Obama's assertion. Now supplying Iran with the world's most advanced missile defense system (possibly outside of known US capabilities) is just another step Russia is taking to put itself in the best position to win a possible confrontation, while earning the favor of a sizable chunk of the Muslim would who would gladly support Russia in the next world war.

Putin knows that Obama is hopelessly lost in regards to foreign policy and recognizes the weak position that Obama has put the US in. Putin is very calculating and I don't believe he will really press the issue until he is positive he has an unbeatable hand, yet I do think he may be pressured further increase his position before the end of Obama's term.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/russia-...rld-war-3/

Interesting article though I do think it makes more than a few assumptions. In any case this article just demonstrates how weak the US is perceived as being under this administration.

Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

Do better

(04-21-2015 12:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 07:43 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  ... because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Somebody better tell the Russians.


Their recent testing of US defenses, parking military ships in Cuba, and threatening European countries with annihilation for taking part in NATO operations certainly flies in the face of Obama's assertion. Now supplying Iran with the world's most advanced missile defense system (possibly outside of known US capabilities) is just another step Russia is taking to put itself in the best position to win a possible confrontation, while earning the favor of a sizable chunk of the Muslim would who would gladly support Russia in the next world war.

Putin knows that Obama is hopelessly lost in regards to foreign policy and recognizes the weak position that Obama has put the US in. Putin is very calculating and I don't believe he will really press the issue until he is positive he has an unbeatable hand, yet I do think he may be pressured further increase his position before the end of Obama's term.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/russia-...rld-war-3/

Interesting article though I do think it makes more than a few assumptions. In any case this article just demonstrates how weak the US is perceived as being under this administration.

Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

Do better

Who pissed in your popcorn?

(04-21-2015 12:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 07:43 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  ... because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Somebody better tell the Russians.


Their recent testing of US defenses, parking military ships in Cuba, and threatening European countries with annihilation for taking part in NATO operations certainly flies in the face of Obama's assertion. Now supplying Iran with the world's most advanced missile defense system (possibly outside of known US capabilities) is just another step Russia is taking to put itself in the best position to win a possible confrontation, while earning the favor of a sizable chunk of the Muslim would who would gladly support Russia in the next world war.

Putin knows that Obama is hopelessly lost in regards to foreign policy and recognizes the weak position that Obama has put the US in. Putin is very calculating and I don't believe he will really press the issue until he is positive he has an unbeatable hand, yet I do think he may be pressured further increase his position before the end of Obama's term.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/russia-...rld-war-3/

Interesting article though I do think it makes more than a few assumptions. In any case this article just demonstrates how weak the US is perceived as being under this administration.

Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

After the Soviet Union was economically crushed and severely outgunned. That didn't happen due to an apologetic president that coddled and appeased opposition.

(04-21-2015 12:24 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 07:43 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  ... because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Somebody better tell the Russians.


Their recent testing of US defenses, parking military ships in Cuba, and threatening European countries with annihilation for taking part in NATO operations certainly flies in the face of Obama's assertion. Now supplying Iran with the world's most advanced missile defense system (possibly outside of known US capabilities) is just another step Russia is taking to put itself in the best position to win a possible confrontation, while earning the favor of a sizable chunk of the Muslim would who would gladly support Russia in the next world war.

Putin knows that Obama is hopelessly lost in regards to foreign policy and recognizes the weak position that Obama has put the US in. Putin is very calculating and I don't believe he will really press the issue until he is positive he has an unbeatable hand, yet I do think he may be pressured further increase his position before the end of Obama's term.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/russia-...rld-war-3/

Interesting article though I do think it makes more than a few assumptions. In any case this article just demonstrates how weak the US is perceived as being under this administration.

Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

After the Soviet Union was economically crushed and severely outgunned. That didn't happen due to an apologetic president that coddled and appeased opposition.

And it didn't happen because Reagan told them to tear the wall down either.

(04-21-2015 12:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:24 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 07:43 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  ... because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Somebody better tell the Russians.


Their recent testing of US defenses, parking military ships in Cuba, and threatening European countries with annihilation for taking part in NATO operations certainly flies in the face of Obama's assertion. Now supplying Iran with the world's most advanced missile defense system (possibly outside of known US capabilities) is just another step Russia is taking to put itself in the best position to win a possible confrontation, while earning the favor of a sizable chunk of the Muslim would who would gladly support Russia in the next world war.

Putin knows that Obama is hopelessly lost in regards to foreign policy and recognizes the weak position that Obama has put the US in. Putin is very calculating and I don't believe he will really press the issue until he is positive he has an unbeatable hand, yet I do think he may be pressured further increase his position before the end of Obama's term.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/russia-...rld-war-3/

Interesting article though I do think it makes more than a few assumptions. In any case this article just demonstrates how weak the US is perceived as being under this administration.

Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

After the Soviet Union was economically crushed and severely outgunned. That didn't happen due to an apologetic president that coddled and appeased opposition.

And it didn't happen because Reagan told them to tear the wall down either.

It happened because tearing down the wall was the only feasible way forward for them. The US, mostly through a strong military and economy, as well as leaders that understood foreign policy.

(04-21-2015 12:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 07:43 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  ... because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Somebody better tell the Russians.


Their recent testing of US defenses, parking military ships in Cuba, and threatening European countries with annihilation for taking part in NATO operations certainly flies in the face of Obama's assertion. Now supplying Iran with the world's most advanced missile defense system (possibly outside of known US capabilities) is just another step Russia is taking to put itself in the best position to win a possible confrontation, while earning the favor of a sizable chunk of the Muslim would who would gladly support Russia in the next world war.

Putin knows that Obama is hopelessly lost in regards to foreign policy and recognizes the weak position that Obama has put the US in. Putin is very calculating and I don't believe he will really press the issue until he is positive he has an unbeatable hand, yet I do think he may be pressured further increase his position before the end of Obama's term.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/russia-...rld-war-3/

Interesting article though I do think it makes more than a few assumptions. In any case this article just demonstrates how weak the US is perceived as being under this administration.

Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

Troll harder.

However we all do understand your limited knowledge of history, so may I recommend reading "Three who changed he world" "The President, The Pope and The Prime Minister".

I'm pretty sure that's about right, can't do the google right now, and it's been a while since I last picked it up. It's not like it hasn't been around for YEARS for anyone truly interested in learning.

Good read, I'd recommend to most anyone who's knowledge of the ending of the Cold War is spotty, as is apparent here.

You're welcome. No charge.

(04-21-2015 12:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 07:43 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  ... because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Somebody better tell the Russians.


Their recent testing of US defenses, parking military ships in Cuba, and threatening European countries with annihilation for taking part in NATO operations certainly flies in the face of Obama's assertion. Now supplying Iran with the world's most advanced missile defense system (possibly outside of known US capabilities) is just another step Russia is taking to put itself in the best position to win a possible confrontation, while earning the favor of a sizable chunk of the Muslim would who would gladly support Russia in the next world war.

Putin knows that Obama is hopelessly lost in regards to foreign policy and recognizes the weak position that Obama has put the US in. Putin is very calculating and I don't believe he will really press the issue until he is positive he has an unbeatable hand, yet I do think he may be pressured further increase his position before the end of Obama's term.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/russia-...rld-war-3/

Interesting article though I do think it makes more than a few assumptions. In any case this article just demonstrates how weak the US is perceived as being under this administration.

Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

No, Reagan ended the Cold War by understanding the Soviet Union's economic and ideological vulnerabilities and exploiting them by exposing the horrendous human rights violations by their regime and by forcing them to spend money they simply didn't have to expand their military to keep up with ours.

(04-21-2015 12:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:24 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 07:43 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  ... because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Somebody better tell the Russians.


Their recent testing of US defenses, parking military ships in Cuba, and threatening European countries with annihilation for taking part in NATO operations certainly flies in the face of Obama's assertion. Now supplying Iran with the world's most advanced missile defense system (possibly outside of known US capabilities) is just another step Russia is taking to put itself in the best position to win a possible confrontation, while earning the favor of a sizable chunk of the Muslim would who would gladly support Russia in the next world war.

Putin knows that Obama is hopelessly lost in regards to foreign policy and recognizes the weak position that Obama has put the US in. Putin is very calculating and I don't believe he will really press the issue until he is positive he has an unbeatable hand, yet I do think he may be pressured further increase his position before the end of Obama's term.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/russia-...rld-war-3/

Interesting article though I do think it makes more than a few assumptions. In any case this article just demonstrates how weak the US is perceived as being under this administration.

Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

After the Soviet Union was economically crushed and severely outgunned. That didn't happen due to an apologetic president that coddled and appeased opposition.

And it didn't happen because Reagan told them to tear the wall down either.

And no sane person, in the history of mankind, has ever claimed something so ridiculously stupid.

(04-21-2015 12:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:24 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 07:43 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  ... because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Somebody better tell the Russians.


Their recent testing of US defenses, parking military ships in Cuba, and threatening European countries with annihilation for taking part in NATO operations certainly flies in the face of Obama's assertion. Now supplying Iran with the world's most advanced missile defense system (possibly outside of known US capabilities) is just another step Russia is taking to put itself in the best position to win a possible confrontation, while earning the favor of a sizable chunk of the Muslim would who would gladly support Russia in the next world war.

Putin knows that Obama is hopelessly lost in regards to foreign policy and recognizes the weak position that Obama has put the US in. Putin is very calculating and I don't believe he will really press the issue until he is positive he has an unbeatable hand, yet I do think he may be pressured further increase his position before the end of Obama's term.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/russia-...rld-war-3/

Interesting article though I do think it makes more than a few assumptions. In any case this article just demonstrates how weak the US is perceived as being under this administration.

Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

After the Soviet Union was economically crushed and severely outgunned. That didn't happen due to an apologetic president that coddled and appeased opposition.

And it didn't happen because Reagan told them to tear the wall down either.

Symbolism.

It happened because Reagan's actions were consistent with his, "Tear down this wall," statement.

Unlike what happened with Obama's red line in Syria.

(04-21-2015 12:42 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:24 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 07:43 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  ... because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Somebody better tell the Russians.


Their recent testing of US defenses, parking military ships in Cuba, and threatening European countries with annihilation for taking part in NATO operations certainly flies in the face of Obama's assertion. Now supplying Iran with the world's most advanced missile defense system (possibly outside of known US capabilities) is just another step Russia is taking to put itself in the best position to win a possible confrontation, while earning the favor of a sizable chunk of the Muslim would who would gladly support Russia in the next world war.

Putin knows that Obama is hopelessly lost in regards to foreign policy and recognizes the weak position that Obama has put the US in. Putin is very calculating and I don't believe he will really press the issue until he is positive he has an unbeatable hand, yet I do think he may be pressured further increase his position before the end of Obama's term.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/russia-...rld-war-3/

Interesting article though I do think it makes more than a few assumptions. In any case this article just demonstrates how weak the US is perceived as being under this administration.

Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

After the Soviet Union was economically crushed and severely outgunned. That didn't happen due to an apologetic president that coddled and appeased opposition.

And it didn't happen because Reagan told them to tear the wall down either.

Symbolism.

an artistic and poetic movement or style using symbolic images and indirect suggestion to express mystical ideas, emotions, and states of mind.


Bingo.

(04-21-2015 01:40 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:42 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:24 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

After the Soviet Union was economically crushed and severely outgunned. That didn't happen due to an apologetic president that coddled and appeased opposition.

And it didn't happen because Reagan told them to tear the wall down either.

Symbolism.

an artistic and poetic movement or style using symbolic images and indirect suggestion to express mystical ideas, emotions, and states of mind.


Bingo.

try using the more appropriate definition in this case

.the use of symbols to represent ideas or qualities.

(04-21-2015 01:40 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:42 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:24 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 12:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Reagan ended the cold war by simply saying "Tear down this wall" remember

After the Soviet Union was economically crushed and severely outgunned. That didn't happen due to an apologetic president that coddled and appeased opposition.

And it didn't happen because Reagan told them to tear the wall down either.

Symbolism.

an artistic and poetic movement or style using symbolic images and indirect suggestion to express mystical ideas, emotions, and states of mind.


Bingo.

Maybe if you repost and add anther 3-4 emoticons, it will have more effect.