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This feels so different from when batten transferred. What a great player and student athlete. Seriously I don't know how I am going to tell my children!

Hold tight guys, this is an opportunity for Keenan and us.

DaBig !

And, Monarch Blue, what will your criteria be? Stars? How the pieces fit in next season? Will people be willing to wait that long? if you consider BJ a recruit, and they add, say, another transfer, will people wait 2 years to judge?

I'm just curious. We are in very unique times in college basketball. What was it, 700 players transferred last year? Gotta imagine the list will be almost as large this go-round.

he's brought in, so far, Taylor (got him to stay), Arledge, Freeman (accepted the gift?), Douglas, Caver, Carver, Pervier, Stith I, Stith II, Biberaji, Vassor, Ebondo

With that conglomeration, how the hell do you judge recruiting prowess? Looks like thus far he has been filling in some cracks in the foundation.

Good luck to Keenan. I will miss watching him play. A great competitor and had some big moments on our team.

(04-09-2015 03:23 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  And, Monarch Blue, what will your criteria be? Stars? How the pieces fit in next season? Will people be willing to wait that long? if you consider BJ a recruit, and they add, say, another transfer, will people wait 2 years to judge?

I'm just curious. We are in very unique times in college basketball. What was it, 700 players transferred last year? Gotta imagine the list will be almost as large this go-round.

he's brought in, so far, Taylor (got him to stay), Arledge, Freeman (accepted the gift?), Douglas, Caver, Carver, Pervier, Stith I, Stith II, Biberaji, Vassor, Ebondo

With that conglomeration, how the hell do you judge recruiting prowess? Looks like thus far he has been filling in some cracks in the foundation.

I think Caver, Carver, and Talley will give us an indication. They are the only traditional signees so far. The others, good and not as good, are guys that fell into his lap to an extent or guys he had to bring in to fill roster spots.

***To avoid confusion, this is the other MonarchBlue responding to your response to the Monarch Blue who posted the original message.*** haha

Well - of that list so far. Taylor has been pretty good, Arledge also pretty good, Freeman has been great, Douglas is on the upswing, Biberaj has been ok. The others it remains to be seen although I have positive expectations.

Overall I think he has earned at least a B in terms of bringing players in, no?

(04-09-2015 03:17 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  Hold tight guys, this is an opportunity for Keenan and us.

also he's sporting an appropriate hat.

Keep in mind, he was recruiting off 5-25. I am willing to give him the 2016 recruiting class before I can really judge how he can recruit with a promising program. Late 2015 signee(s) would be a bonus.

(04-09-2015 03:39 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 03:23 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  And, Monarch Blue, what will your criteria be? Stars? How the pieces fit in next season? Will people be willing to wait that long? if you consider BJ a recruit, and they add, say, another transfer, will people wait 2 years to judge?

I'm just curious. We are in very unique times in college basketball. What was it, 700 players transferred last year? Gotta imagine the list will be almost as large this go-round.

he's brought in, so far, Taylor (got him to stay), Arledge, Freeman (accepted the gift?), Douglas, Caver, Carver, Pervier, Stith I, Stith II, Biberaji, Vassor, Ebondo

With that conglomeration, how the hell do you judge recruiting prowess? Looks like thus far he has been filling in some cracks in the foundation.

I think Caver, Carver, and Talley will give us an indication. They are the only traditional signees so far. The others, good and not as good, are guys that fell into his lap to an extent or guys he had to bring in to fill roster spots.

***To avoid confusion, this is the other MonarchBlue responding to your response to the Monarch Blue who posted the original message.*** haha

Forgot Talley. Thanks for the reminder.

(04-09-2015 03:47 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  Well - of that list so far. Taylor has been pretty good, Arledge also pretty good, Freeman has been great, Douglas is on the upswing, Biberaj has been ok. The others it remains to be seen although I have positive expectations.

Overall I think he has earned at least a B in terms of bringing players in, no?

He's certainly made effective use of everyone he's brought in. I'd say a B is fair, maybe B-

I wouldn't even know where to begin with a grade until next year, but I think that seems fair based off my perception.

I would say if 2 of the 4 between Pervier, Caver, Carver, and Talley can contribute significantly that would be at least a B.

(04-09-2015 03:13 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  So whats the deal with scholarships? This opens one up? Who gets it?

If we can't sign two players with the two open scholarships, I would hope that Nik would be given one for his Senior year. I think he deserves it.

Here's what I judge. 27-8. In year two. One win shy of the school record for wins. These guys are flat out getting it done. Hold onto your hats people!

Im ok with Palmore transferring as long as he doesn't end up at vcu. The only things I didn't like about his game was his outside shooting and his floater.

Here is what 2015-16 looks like:

2015-2016
Trey Freeman (RS SR)
Javonte Douglas (SR)
Aaron Bacote (SR)
Payton Pervier (TR JR)
Ambrose Mosley (RS JR)
Deion Clark (RS JR)
Jordan Baker (JR)
Denzell Taylor (JR)
Zoran Talley (RS FR)
Ahmed Caver (FR)
Aaron Carver (FR)
OPEN
OPEN

Non Scholarship
Nik Biberaj (SR)
Martin Shaw (JR)
Brandan Stith (RS SO)
B.J. Stith (TR SO; ineligible to play)
Stephen Vassor (RS SO)

Transferred
Keenan Palmore

Graduated
Joe Ebondo
Richard Ross
Jonathan Arledge

Would Brandon Stith get one of the scholarships now?

I too would like to thank Keenan Palmore for his contributions and wish him the very best. From my vantage point, he has been a great team mate and a model citizen. As some have noted, he played through that painful 5 win season and could have bolted after that season. I value his loyalty and wish him all the best in his future!

(04-09-2015 03:49 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Keep in mind, he was recruiting off 5-25. I am willing to give him the 2016 recruiting class before I can really judge how he can recruit with a promising program. Late 2015 signee(s) would be a bonus.

Very true. It also takes time to build up the recruiting networks and relationships with high school and AAU coaches, etc. I think Jones and Stith are only just now beginning to come into their own. The verdict will not be truly known for another couple of years, but I tend to like what I see so far. I think the best is yet to come. Also, I have to wonder if any others will transfer out of the program, i.e., Clark. I would have expected him to go before Palmore.

Man, I thought Keenan would stick it out. Next year ODU is poised to have one of it's best seasons ever, and Keenan played a HUGE role in getting the program back to this point. What a luxury it was having the kind of experience he provided coming off the bench. I hope he lands somewhere that can provide the playing time he deserves. I will always be grateful as an ODU fan for what he did for the program, and will root for him wherever he lands. Some team will be lucky to have him.