Per The Kansas City Star

Quote:A Wichita State University mathematician sued the top Kansas election official Wednesday, seeking paper tapes from electronic voting machines in an effort to explain statistical anomalies favoring Republicans in counts coming from large precincts across the country.

Before you knee-jerk 'anti-liberal' on this issue, read on.

Quote:While it is well-recognized that smaller, rural precincts tend to lean Republican, statisticians have been unable to explain the consistent pattern favoring Republicans that trends upward as the number of votes cast in a precinct or other voting unit goes up. In primaries, the favored candidate appears to always be the Republican establishment candidate, above a tea party challenger. And the upward trend for Republicans occurs once a voting unit reaches roughly 500 votes.

Very interesting stuff, and it should be of very high interest to the Libertarians on the messageboard.

So, let me just take a stab at it. So, one explanation could be that conservative leaning city folk are abandoning the "urban" areas and moving to the rural areas that they find are more consistent with their beliefs. So, as the numbers in these rural areas increase, you will find that these voters do not necessarily vote for the most right-leaning candidate.

Not sure what this establishment/tea party designation is....you would need specifics to actually understand it better.

This is a really good thing. We need more people demanding to see the votes. We need a lot more than one guy. This kind of thing will do more to keep elections honest than ID laws or any other rules you want to enact.

Go get 'em stat man!

The following quotes stuck out:

Quote:This is not just an anomaly that occurred in one place. It is a pattern that has occurred repeatedly in elections across the United States.....showing strong statistical evidence of election manipulation in Iowa, New Hampshire, Arizona, Ohio, Oklahoma, Alabama, Louisiana, Wisconsin, West Virginia and Kentucky.

Quote:... checked their model selection and found it appropriate.

Perhaps they should have someone else re-check their model selection first before they start a conspiracy theory of this magnitude.

Then again, maybe there should be legislation where every individual's votes should be part of the public record and available on-line.

I have no problem looking into this. Would also like to know how precincts in places like Cleveland and Philadelphia manage to get voter participation over 100%. That is also quite a statistical anomaly.

Maybe we should have people register to vote at least 30 days prior to an election and then have them present a picture id card to vote. This way you can be certain of their resident status and their identity.

(04-08-2015 10:10 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  Maybe we should have people register to vote at least 30 days prior to an election and then have them present a picture id card to vote. This way you can be certain of their resident status and their identity.

racist.

I guess the Republicans hired some Chicago democrats to help them with the voting fraud.

(04-08-2015 08:06 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  The following quotes stuck out:

Quote:This is not just an anomaly that occurred in one place. It is a pattern that has occurred repeatedly in elections across the United States.....showing strong statistical evidence of election manipulation in Iowa, New Hampshire, Arizona, Ohio, Oklahoma, Alabama, Louisiana, Wisconsin, West Virginia and Kentucky.

Quote:... checked their model selection and found it appropriate.

Perhaps they should have someone else re-check their model selection first before they start a conspiracy theory of this magnitude.

Then again, maybe there should be legislation where every individual's votes should be part of the public record and available on-line.

She was rechecking others prior research and found the same result in different elections, this phenomena isn't new. The fact is, it's just political suicide for politicians to discuss because of the implications it has on politics in general. And, as of right now, the effect is only shown in Republican primaries. But if I were a Tea Partier, I'd wonder why there is a suspicious statistical anomaly that only helped the RNC supported candidates.

She also isn't starting a conspiracy theory, she wants the election data from a single district so that she can explain what this effect is. She's not claiming fraud or any sort of cause, she's simply stating what she and others see as a distinct statistical anomaly that they can't explain using demographic information. I think you're being very unfair to characterize her as doing that.

The problem is, politically this issue is complicated. What happens if you can prove an effect? What if we can show with 99.999% certainty those votes were added?