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RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
(04-07-2015 11:25 AM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  
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One less knight in the world. 03-weeping


The black guy always gets it05-stirthepot

Martin Lawrence?

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(04-07-2015 05:43 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(04-07-2015 12:53 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Man I am glad that UCF changed our name to Knights before other programs started dropping there colors too.

Cadets > Black Knights

You guys should bring back the Citronauts name. And rebrand yourself UF-Orlando. UFO Citronauts gear would go flying off the shelves.

About 30 years too late. That would have beeen a very smart idea.
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RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
Makes sense - historically Knights only roamed in Orlando and New Jersey
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RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
What is the holdup for inclusion of Army in American?

Why Army is not even looking at become a big time College Athletic Program? Maybe it is because their admission or their Army service?

Can the rules like that be tweeked? I am sure a big time college athletic program will do wonders to Army popularity especially the young kids in America. Maybe they can have a dual academic program for student athlete. I mean if Army wants to get it done. The rest is just plain logisitics.

As a UCF fan, I am really a big fan for Army in American... I want their success...
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RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
(04-08-2015 09:28 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  What is the holdup for inclusion of Army in American?

Why Army is not even looking at become a big time College Athletic Program? Maybe it is because their admission or their Army service?

Can the rules like that be tweeked? I am sure a big time college athletic program will do wonders to Army popularity especially the young kids in America. Maybe they can have a dual academic program for student athlete. I mean if Army wants to get it done. The rest is just plain logisitics.

As a UCF fan, I am really a big fan for Army in American... I want their success...

Imagine the 100 year history of the Army Navy game becoming an AAC conference game? Holy cow!
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RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
(04-08-2015 09:13 AM)st932253 Wrote:  Makes sense - historically Knights only roamed in Orlando and New Jersey


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Furioso

Jersey is named after it namesake province in England.

So historically, they have connections to knighthood!

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What is the holdup for inclusion of Army in American?

Why Army is not even looking at become a big time College Athletic Program? Maybe it is because their admission or their Army service?

Can the rules like that be tweeked? I am sure a big time college athletic program will do wonders to Army popularity especially the young kids in America. Maybe they can have a dual academic program for student athlete. I mean if Army wants to get it done. The rest is just plain logisitics.

As a UCF fan, I am really a big fan for Army in American... I want their success...

Reportedly our AD would prefer if Army competed in the Ivy League. Either way, he doesn't support big time football.

I love being independent, but if Army was to join a conference it should be the American.

I would support joining a conference even more if Army had been more competitive after the years.

Also, we are P5. We don't want to give up that status!
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RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
If they come back with the mule, I would love to see a uniform with bullseye from Toy Story - something like Oregon's Donald Duck outfit.

I am still dreaming with Navy's Djali uniform...
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Re: RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
(04-07-2015 11:03 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
(04-07-2015 10:36 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Hey they're P5 they can do whatever.

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(04-07-2015 10:48 AM)GeminiShamrock Wrote:  Good for them. I mean I still prefer Navy over Army. (Sorry, Harmon, but my old man was a sailor during the '70s.) But I'm glad they're going back to the "Cadets" nickname.

Completely understandable.

Every military serving member of my family has served in the Army dating back to the Revolution.

Mine too except for a war in the 1860's. They fought for another country. But we will overlook that little technicality. Mom is a member of DAR
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Re: RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
(04-07-2015 05:50 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  
(04-07-2015 11:03 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
(04-07-2015 10:36 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Hey they're P5 they can do whatever.

+100

(04-07-2015 10:48 AM)GeminiShamrock Wrote:  Good for them. I mean I still prefer Navy over Army. (Sorry, Harmon, but my old man was a sailor during the '70s.) But I'm glad they're going back to the "Cadets" nickname.

Completely understandable.

Every military serving member of my family has served in the Army dating back to the Revolution.

Lt. Dan from Forrest Gump, is that you?

My exact thought too. Haha
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RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
(04-08-2015 09:28 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  What is the holdup for inclusion of Army in American?

....

Well, the answer is that Army is holding it up. If they gave the slightest hint that they were interested, I'm sure someone would hand deliver an invitation asap.

FWIW and for those that may not know, Army has a conference history with a lot of the members of this conference and they struggled to compete at the top level of the conference.

I love their tradition. Having the Golden Knights deliver the game ball from the air is really a neat experience. I'm sure several long time fans of programs in this conference, or especially HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine can describe in detail just how special attending a game at Michie Stadium is. Sports Illustrated named it the #3 sports venue of the 20th century. I love the Liberty Bowl, but it ain't got Michie's history, setting, or charm. :)
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RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
Army did receive an invite. They declined. I believe we offered them the same deal as Navy so that they could move football to AAC and remain in the Patriot for the rest. Id support that move in a heartbeat considering that Air Force had said that they would have more interest in the AAC if it had both.
If we could secure Army and then offer Air Force and CSU as a pair, then Id be very happy when the AAC goes back to the negotiating table. We would be a much more attractive conference, and hurt the MWC. Both of which makes the AAC more valuable.
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RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
(04-09-2015 09:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Army did receive an invite. They declined. I believe we offered them the same deal as Navy so that they could move football to AAC and remain in the Patriot for the rest. Id support that move in a heartbeat considering that Air Force had said that they would have more interest in the AAC if it had both.
If we could secure Army and then offer Air Force and CSU as a pair, then Id be very happy when the AAC goes back to the negotiating table. We would be a much more attractive conference, and hurt the MWC. Both of which makes the AAC more valuable.

Army is not coming and Air Force and CSU aren't leaving the Range. Army just grabbed a new gig as a P5 school for the ACC and SEC so Vandy, Duke, and Wake Forest can still schedule them for potential wins to get bowl eligible. Army has its own TV contract and makes $5 million on the Navy game alone. They can schedule nationally and get low tier bowls especially with the new flood of bowls coming out in recent years along with the Armed Forces Bowl and the Poinsettia Bowl in California.

Air Force and CSU are happy in the MWC where they can keep their Olympic sports and travel to a minimum compared to shipping them around nationally at a higher cost. The money is about the same as the AAC and the track to the G5 Access Bowl is easier if they can get by Boise when they have a bad year. Air Force can get into any Military related bowl and the bowls aren't that bad for the MWC especially after they grab the new Tuscan Bowl coming up this year. Travel to their bowls is not all that bad either. At this time a MWC move to the AAC is nothing more than a lateral move that doesn't pay with exit and entrance fees and the the cost of travel would increase greatly to play nationally. The American couldn't nail down Boise and San Diego. It is not going to nail down any other MWC school. That ship sailed with big TV contract money to entice MWC schools when the C7, Notre Dame, Rutgers, Pitt, Syracuse, and Louisville left. If all had stayed then the BE wouldn't need that MWC schools anyway.
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I say this with all due respect, but Army needs to revert to FCS. They can't compete at this level.
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(04-12-2015 08:53 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  I say this with all due respect, but Army needs to revert to FCS. They can't compete at this level.

If Navy and Air Force can, why not Army?
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(04-12-2015 09:01 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 08:53 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  I say this with all due respect, but Army needs to revert to FCS. They can't compete at this level.

If Navy and Air Force can, why not Army?

I personally think they are more desirable branches of service. Navy and Air Force have advantage of when you graduate, good chance you're not serving in the trenches of Afghanistan.
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RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
(04-12-2015 09:06 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 09:01 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 08:53 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  I say this with all due respect, but Army needs to revert to FCS. They can't compete at this level.

If Navy and Air Force can, why not Army?

I personally think they are more desirable branches of service. Navy and Air Force have advantage of when you graduate, good chance you're not serving in the trenches of Afghanistan.

As a Navy veteran it would be fun to agree with you. As a veteran in general this is a little insulting, though I don't think that was your intent.

The Army is a fine branch, and is the pillar of our nation's military service. The Army and Marine Corp are the forces that do our dirty work, while the Navy and Air Force are the ones that provide quick strike capability, and quickly project power. All of them are needed, and are appreciated.

I'd love to have the Army Cadets in our conference.

Oh, and go Navy! 04-cheers
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(04-12-2015 09:06 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 09:01 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 08:53 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  I say this with all due respect, but Army needs to revert to FCS. They can't compete at this level.

If Navy and Air Force can, why not Army?

I personally think they are more desirable branches of service. Navy and Air Force have advantage of when you graduate, good chance you're not serving in the trenches of Afghanistan.

That could change fast. What if we get involved in a war in the Pacific?
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RE: OT: Army to drop "Black Knights"; revert to Cadets, with new logo for 2015+
Army had 4 wins this year. Should have beat Yale, and lost a heart breaker to Navy in the end. That would have given them a 6 & 6 bowl eligible season. Three out of the last 4 Army / Navy games have been close and could have gone either way. Checked Army's 2015 schedule. They can start 4 and 0. Then they hit Penn State. They can and should go at least 6 & 6 and be bowl eligible, 7 & 5 if they beat Air Force - the last Academy they beat, and 8 & 5 if they can break the 13 year Navy jinx since they were so close to beating them last year. Looking forward to making my first potential trek up to Michie Stadium in the fall for the Rutgers game now that it has been moved back up there from Yankee Stadium. 04-cheers
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(04-12-2015 09:59 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 09:06 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 09:01 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 08:53 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  I say this with all due respect, but Army needs to revert to FCS. They can't compete at this level.

If Navy and Air Force can, why not Army?

I personally think they are more desirable branches of service. Navy and Air Force have advantage of when you graduate, good chance you're not serving in the trenches of Afghanistan.

That could change fast. What if we get involved in a war in the Pacific?

Historically speaking, there hasn't been a dangerous war on the seas since 1945. Tough to for people to wrap their minds around something that hasn't happened in their lifetime or parents lifetimes.
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(04-12-2015 09:26 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 09:06 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 09:01 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 08:53 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  I say this with all due respect, but Army needs to revert to FCS. They can't compete at this level.

If Navy and Air Force can, why not Army?

I personally think they are more desirable branches of service. Navy and Air Force have advantage of when you graduate, good chance you're not serving in the trenches of Afghanistan.

As a Navy veteran it would be fun to agree with you. As a veteran in general this is a little insulting, though I don't think that was your intent.

The Army is a fine branch, and is the pillar of our nation's military service. The Army and Marine Corp are the forces that do our dirty work, while the Navy and Air Force are the ones that provide quick strike capability, and quickly project power. All of them are needed, and are appreciated.

I'd love to have the Army Cadets in our conference.

Oh, and go Navy! 04-cheers

I am just being honest. The Navy and Air Force are both very important branches to winning wars and providing security. But the reality is our technological advantage is so far to superior to any enemy engaged over the last 25 years that statistically speaking there are many domestic jobs more dangerous than being in the Air Force or Navy.

Yes I expect this posted to be blasted.
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(04-12-2015 11:18 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 09:59 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 09:06 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 09:01 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 08:53 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  I say this with all due respect, but Army needs to revert to FCS. They can't compete at this level.

If Navy and Air Force can, why not Army?

I personally think they are more desirable branches of service. Navy and Air Force have advantage of when you graduate, good chance you're not serving in the trenches of Afghanistan.

That could change fast. What if we get involved in a war in the Pacific?

Historically speaking, there hasn't been a dangerous war on the seas since 1945. Tough to for people to wrap their minds around something that hasn't happened in their lifetime or parents lifetimes.

Until it happens
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