Keep up the good work Mr. President!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/06...10350.html

Corporate profits up 174%
Food stamps up 45%
Home ownership down 3.5%

Touting ACA numbers is just stupid. It's MANDATED TO SIGN UP.

It's a mixed bag.

Tell black Americans how great they are doing under Obama...

Quote:Record High 12,202,000 Black Americans Not In Labor Force

Quote: A record 12,202,000 black people were not in the labor force in March, as the participation rate for this group declined over the month to 61.0 percent, according to data released from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).

According to the BLS, the more than 12 million black people not in the labor force in March means that they did not have a job or actively seek one in the past four weeks. The number climbed from 12,122,000 in February to 12,202,000 in March, an increase of 80,000.

The labor force participation rate for this group, which is the percentage of the population who participated in the labor force by either having a job or actively seeking one, declined from 61.2 percent in February to 61.0 percent in March.

The unemployment rate for black people in March was 10.1 percent, which is nearly double the overall national unemployment rate of 5.5 percent. Last month, the unemployment rate for black people was 10.4 percent.

For black teens, age 16 to 19 years old, the unemployment rate was even higher at 25.0 percent, meaning that one in four black teens who were actively seeking a job did not have one. The participation rate for this group also declined 3.4 percentage points from 29.1 percent in February to 25.7 percent in March.

[url]http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meye...abor-force[/url]

Number of Jobs – The jobs figure for March stands 835,000 higher than we reported three months ago. The economy has now added 7,206,000 jobs since Obama first took office.

Unemployment Rate — Meanwhile the unemployment rate ticked down another tenth of a point, to 5.5 percent. That’s a decline of 2.3 percentage points since the recession-plagued month of January 2009, when the president first took the oath of office.

(04-06-2015 01:37 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Tell black Americans how great they are doing under Obama...

Quote:Record High 12,202,000 Black Americans Not In Labor Force

Quote: A record 12,202,000 black people were not in the labor force in March, as the participation rate for this group declined over the month to 61.0 percent, according to data released from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).

According to the BLS, the more than 12 million black people not in the labor force in March means that they did not have a job or actively seek one in the past four weeks. The number climbed from 12,122,000 in February to 12,202,000 in March, an increase of 80,000.

The labor force participation rate for this group, which is the percentage of the population who participated in the labor force by either having a job or actively seeking one, declined from 61.2 percent in February to 61.0 percent in March.

The unemployment rate for black people in March was 10.1 percent, which is nearly double the overall national unemployment rate of 5.5 percent. Last month, the unemployment rate for black people was 10.4 percent.

For black teens, age 16 to 19 years old, the unemployment rate was even higher at 25.0 percent, meaning that one in four black teens who were actively seeking a job did not have one. The participation rate for this group also declined 3.4 percentage points from 29.1 percent in February to 25.7 percent in March.

[url]http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meye...abor-force[/url]

Is everything about race with you?

(04-06-2015 02:08 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  

(04-06-2015 01:37 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Tell black Americans how great they are doing under Obama...

Quote:Record High 12,202,000 Black Americans Not In Labor Force

Quote: A record 12,202,000 black people were not in the labor force in March, as the participation rate for this group declined over the month to 61.0 percent, according to data released from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).

According to the BLS, the more than 12 million black people not in the labor force in March means that they did not have a job or actively seek one in the past four weeks. The number climbed from 12,122,000 in February to 12,202,000 in March, an increase of 80,000.

The labor force participation rate for this group, which is the percentage of the population who participated in the labor force by either having a job or actively seeking one, declined from 61.2 percent in February to 61.0 percent in March.

The unemployment rate for black people in March was 10.1 percent, which is nearly double the overall national unemployment rate of 5.5 percent. Last month, the unemployment rate for black people was 10.4 percent.

For black teens, age 16 to 19 years old, the unemployment rate was even higher at 25.0 percent, meaning that one in four black teens who were actively seeking a job did not have one. The participation rate for this group also declined 3.4 percentage points from 29.1 percent in February to 25.7 percent in March.

[url]http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meye...abor-force[/url]

Is everything about race with you?

Yes.
Surprised he didn't create another thread.

(04-06-2015 01:39 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Number of Jobs – The jobs figure for March stands 835,000 higher than we reported three months ago. The economy has now added 7,206,000 jobs since Obama first took office.

Unemployment Rate — Meanwhile the unemployment rate ticked down another tenth of a point, to 5.5 percent. That’s a decline of 2.3 percentage points since the recession-plagued month of January 2009, when the president first took the oath of office.

Then how is it that the labor participation rate hasn't gone up?

http://ycharts.com/indicators/labor_forc...ation_rate

The future is bright Comrade!

Brought to you Pravda!

RECORD 93,175,000 AMERICANS NOT IN THE LABOR FORCE

So, is this good news for the country?

Quote:More Americans dropped out of the labor force last month, as the number of people not in the labor force hit another record high in March.

According to Friday’s Bureau of Labor Statics jobs data 93,175,000 Americans were not in the work force in March, an addition of 277,000 to February’s level of 92,898,000.

The BLS defines people not in the labor force as people ages 16 and older who are neither employed nor have they “made specific efforts to find employment sometime during the 4-week period ending with the reference week.”

The work force decline also corresponded with a drop in the labor force participation rate, wherein March’s rate of 62.7 percent matched earlier lows seen September and December 2014 but not seen before since in 1978. February’s participation rate was 62.8 percent.

March was the first month on record where the number of people not in the labor force — whether due to discouraged worker, baby boomers hitting retirement or otherwise — surpassed 93 million.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...bor-force/

The number of "Newly Insured" (16M) and "Uninsured" (37M) is using some fuzzy math. If you add them together, you get 53M. There were only 47M uninsured Americans prior to Obamacare. So it looks like they need another column for "Lost Insurance & Still Dont Have Any" which would be 6M if you go by these numbers.


In reality, the numbers are more like:

Newly Insured: 7M
Lost Insurance and Had To Go To The Exchanges To get New Crappy Insurance: 9M
Lost Insurance and still dont have any: 6M
Never Had Insurance: 31M

(04-06-2015 02:22 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-06-2015 01:39 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Number of Jobs – The jobs figure for March stands 835,000 higher than we reported three months ago. The economy has now added 7,206,000 jobs since Obama first took office.

Unemployment Rate — Meanwhile the unemployment rate ticked down another tenth of a point, to 5.5 percent. That’s a decline of 2.3 percentage points since the recession-plagued month of January 2009, when the president first took the oath of office.

Then how is it that the labor participation rate hasn't gone up?

http://ycharts.com/indicators/labor_forc...ation_rate

You would have to ask them. I didn't write the article.

(04-07-2015 01:15 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The number of "Newly Insured" (16M) and "Uninsured" (37M) is using some fuzzy math. If you add them together, you get 53M. There were only 47M uninsured Americans prior to Obamacare. So it looks like they need another column for "Lost Insurance & Still Dont Have Any" which would be 6M if you go by these numbers.


In reality, the numbers are more like:

Newly Insured: 7M
Lost Insurance and Had To Go To The Exchanges To get New Crappy Insurance: 9M
Lost Insurance and still dont have any: 6M
Never Had Insurance: 31M

The problem appears to be that you're using the figure of 47 million which is not the figure from the NCHS survey which is what the article in the OP was based on. See the first bullet point here.

Quote:In the first 9 months of 2014, 37.2
million persons of all ages (11.9%)
were uninsured at the time of
interview, 53.5 million (17.1%) had
been uninsured for at least part of
the year prior to interview, and 27.2
million (8.7%) had been uninsured
for more than a year at the time of
interview.

They're using the total number of people "uninsured for at least part of the year." They're not using the total number uninsured at one point in time prior to the ACA, which was estimated to be anywhere from 42 to 48 million depending on your source of choice.

So bottom line, the article is taking the 53 million figure from NCHS and subtracting the 16 million figure from the White House to arrive at their uninsured number of 37 million. Nothing fuzzy about it. Sorry.

(04-07-2015 04:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 01:15 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The number of "Newly Insured" (16M) and "Uninsured" (37M) is using some fuzzy math. If you add them together, you get 53M. There were only 47M uninsured Americans prior to Obamacare. So it looks like they need another column for "Lost Insurance & Still Dont Have Any" which would be 6M if you go by these numbers.


In reality, the numbers are more like:

Newly Insured: 7M
Lost Insurance and Had To Go To The Exchanges To get New Crappy Insurance: 9M
Lost Insurance and still dont have any: 6M
Never Had Insurance: 31M

The problem appears to be that you're using the figure of 47 million which is not the figure from the NCHS survey which is what the article in the OP was based on. See the first bullet point here.

Quote:In the first 9 months of 2014, 37.2
million persons of all ages (11.9%)
were uninsured at the time of
interview, 53.5 million (17.1%) had
been uninsured for at least part of
the year prior to interview, and 27.2
million (8.7%) had been uninsured
for more than a year at the time of
interview.

They're using the total number of people "uninsured for at least part of the year." They're not using the total number uninsured at one point in time prior to the ACA, which was estimated to be anywhere from 42 to 48 million depending on your source of choice.

So bottom line, the article is taking the 53 million figure from NCHS and subtracting the 16 million figure from the White House to arrive at their uninsured number of 37 million. Nothing fuzzy about it. Sorry.

Nothing fuzzy at all then, its just a big fat lie.

And in other words, the numbers I reported are true. Only 47 million were uninsured before Obamacare, and after Obamacare, a few million gained insurance, millions lost insurance and then were forced onto the exchanges for crappy insurance, and even millions more lost their good insurance and have no coverage.

what a joke....

(04-07-2015 05:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 04:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 01:15 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The number of "Newly Insured" (16M) and "Uninsured" (37M) is using some fuzzy math. If you add them together, you get 53M. There were only 47M uninsured Americans prior to Obamacare. So it looks like they need another column for "Lost Insurance & Still Dont Have Any" which would be 6M if you go by these numbers.


In reality, the numbers are more like:

Newly Insured: 7M
Lost Insurance and Had To Go To The Exchanges To get New Crappy Insurance: 9M
Lost Insurance and still dont have any: 6M
Never Had Insurance: 31M

The problem appears to be that you're using the figure of 47 million which is not the figure from the NCHS survey which is what the article in the OP was based on. See the first bullet point here.

Quote:In the first 9 months of 2014, 37.2
million persons of all ages (11.9%)
were uninsured at the time of
interview, 53.5 million (17.1%) had
been uninsured for at least part of
the year prior to interview, and 27.2
million (8.7%) had been uninsured
for more than a year at the time of
interview.

They're using the total number of people "uninsured for at least part of the year." They're not using the total number uninsured at one point in time prior to the ACA, which was estimated to be anywhere from 42 to 48 million depending on your source of choice.

So bottom line, the article is taking the 53 million figure from NCHS and subtracting the 16 million figure from the White House to arrive at their uninsured number of 37 million. Nothing fuzzy about it. Sorry.

Nothing fuzzy at all then, its just a big fat lie.

And in other words, the numbers I reported are true. Only 47 million were uninsured before Obamacare, and after Obamacare, a few million gained insurance, millions lost insurance and then were forced onto the exchanges for crappy insurance, and even millions more lost their good insurance and have no coverage.

what a joke....

This is bad form. Redwingtom politely corrected you, you were in fact wrong, and you act like this? Are you not an adult? Do you not want to be corrected politely if you're wrong?

(04-07-2015 04:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-06-2015 02:22 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-06-2015 01:39 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Number of Jobs – The jobs figure for March stands 835,000 higher than we reported three months ago. The economy has now added 7,206,000 jobs since Obama first took office.

Unemployment Rate — Meanwhile the unemployment rate ticked down another tenth of a point, to 5.5 percent. That’s a decline of 2.3 percentage points since the recession-plagued month of January 2009, when the president first took the oath of office.

Then how is it that the labor participation rate hasn't gone up?

http://ycharts.com/indicators/labor_forc...ation_rate

You would have to ask them. I didn't write the article.

Considering the source, I'm sure the authors sat down with some White House staff and penned the article. If the Obama camp told them they found the cure for cancer - that publication would print it and push for Obama to get the Nobel Prize for medicine.

Liars, lie.

(04-06-2015 01:15 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Keep up the good work Mr. President!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/06...10350.html

If Obama is accepting of all of the failures that occurred during this time on watch then he is entitled to the positives as well.

(04-07-2015 05:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 04:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 01:15 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The number of "Newly Insured" (16M) and "Uninsured" (37M) is using some fuzzy math. If you add them together, you get 53M. There were only 47M uninsured Americans prior to Obamacare. So it looks like they need another column for "Lost Insurance & Still Dont Have Any" which would be 6M if you go by these numbers.


In reality, the numbers are more like:

Newly Insured: 7M
Lost Insurance and Had To Go To The Exchanges To get New Crappy Insurance: 9M
Lost Insurance and still dont have any: 6M
Never Had Insurance: 31M

The problem appears to be that you're using the figure of 47 million which is not the figure from the NCHS survey which is what the article in the OP was based on. See the first bullet point here.

Quote:In the first 9 months of 2014, 37.2
million persons of all ages (11.9%)
were uninsured at the time of
interview, 53.5 million (17.1%) had
been uninsured for at least part of
the year prior to interview, and 27.2
million (8.7%) had been uninsured
for more than a year at the time of
interview.

They're using the total number of people "uninsured for at least part of the year." They're not using the total number uninsured at one point in time prior to the ACA, which was estimated to be anywhere from 42 to 48 million depending on your source of choice.

So bottom line, the article is taking the 53 million figure from NCHS and subtracting the 16 million figure from the White House to arrive at their uninsured number of 37 million. Nothing fuzzy about it. Sorry.

Nothing fuzzy at all then, its just a big fat lie.

And in other words, the numbers I reported are true. Only 47 million were uninsured before Obamacare, and after Obamacare, a few million gained insurance, millions lost insurance and then were forced onto the exchanges for crappy insurance, and even millions more lost their good insurance and have no coverage.

what a joke....

Please provide your source for the 47 million. And as I noted, I've seen reports from between 42 and 48 million.

Also, please provide proof to bolster your claim that the insurance folks are getting on the exchange is "crappy".