(05-01-2015 10:58 AM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(05-01-2015 10:50 AM)Eastside_J Wrote:  Totally agree - and with his quickness (the kid has near tight-end speed) I would think he could excel at guard. He is a ILB's nightmare - could really help our running game if he can also pull and play the other aspects of the G position.

Gotta get him healthy and see what he can do.


You guys are going to think I am a lunatic but I would take WR Jaelen Strong out of ASU with the next pick.

Yeah I hate taking WR's too early - this is purely an talent plus "impact now" pick.

I think he could end up being a number 1 in the NFL and might have as much upside as Cooper and White.

Someone may very well snag him ahead of the Bengals but if he is there I would grab him.

I can just see him ending up as a top 40 NFL WR.

Yeah, they already anticipate him playing as a 3rd OT/TE in short yardage situations when he (hopefully) goes active in midseason. As far as R2 for the Bengals, I don't think WR is far-fetched at all, in fact it's probably the most likely position. Which WR is probably a tougher question, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is Lockett as mentioned above.

Lockett is really super skilled - if he were 6'1' like Cooper he would right up at the top of all the lists. I just wonder it would be better to get a large power WR to compliment the finesse guys we already have (Green, Jones). I could be very wrong though - he could become a super player.

Dorial Green-Beckham should be that ideal "size + power" WR but he looks like he has too many red flags to me and I don't think he has near the NFL WR skill package of a Lockett or Strong. I would let another team take a flier on his outlier size and athleticism. He could be a massive force or out of football in 3 years.

If you are going to go smaller I might wait and try to grab Ty Montgomery out of Stanford - He has plus NFL strength for a receiver and is also an excellent returner.

Another "wait" guy (not round 2, more like 4 or 5) I like is Blake Bell TE Oklahoma. The kid is massive 6'6' plus and 250-260 and fast. Former QB - converted to TE last year. Great hands. Could get to 275-285 and still have decent TE speed. Heck put him at QB in goal line - he is an effing seriously athletic LOAD.

I don't think there is a TE in the draft to get excited enough about to take in the top 3 rounds.

strong would be sweet, as well as that dude from michigan. maybe that kid from k-state

(05-01-2015 10:58 AM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(05-01-2015 10:50 AM)Eastside_J Wrote:  Totally agree - and with his quickness (the kid has near tight-end speed) I would think he could excel at guard. He is a ILB's nightmare - could really help our running game if he can also pull and play the other aspects of the G position.

Gotta get him healthy and see what he can do.


You guys are going to think I am a lunatic but I would take WR Jaelen Strong out of ASU with the next pick.

Yeah I hate taking WR's too early - this is purely an talent plus "impact now" pick.

I think he could end up being a number 1 in the NFL and might have as much upside as Cooper and White.

Someone may very well snag him ahead of the Bengals but if he is there I would grab him.

I can just see him ending up as a top 40 NFL WR.

Yeah, they already anticipate him playing as a 3rd OT/TE in short yardage situations when he (hopefully) goes active in midseason.

As far as R2 for the Bengals, I don't think WR is far-fetched at all, in fact it's probably the most likely position. Which WR is probably a tougher question, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is Lockett as mentioned above. ESPN.com's new 2nd round mock has Strong going at 43 to Cleveland and Lockett to KC at 49. They mock UCLA DE Odighizuwa to the Bengals at 53 but I don't think that is very likely.

In R3, if they've already got their WR in R2, then I think they'd love to get a TE if the value is there - maybe the OSU kid.

Haha I hadn't read your post when I hit send on mine. Seems we have the same thought about the OSU kid.

(05-01-2015 10:50 AM)Eastside_J Wrote:  

(05-01-2015 09:51 AM)Marcus Wrote:  

(05-01-2015 09:41 AM)Eastside_J Wrote:  

(05-01-2015 09:17 AM)50Cent Wrote:  Just out of curiousity who was the immediate impact player you'd have taken?

I recall last year losing Andre smith during season. Bengals do have 20 returning starters and Michael Johnson back. Plus Dre was better than Newman at end of year.

20 teams passed on Dupree. 31 passed on malcom brown. Just saying don't always go off some rating. Peter King had Broncos taking ogbuehi at 25 in his last mock two days ago.

I would have loved to have gotten Shelton. But at 21 I'm not sure who was better option.

I'm guessing Ogbuehi plays last half of year somewhere or in some situation and that helps team. Grabbing guy who can play LT and would have been a top 10 pick is a good deal while not sexy.

Now had Parker slipped sure that would been great too or the USC receiver probably could have been productive this year. But with Jones coming back you can't pass on future LT.

It's all a crap shoot. I get bengals logic here and can't argue it.

Given his athleticism, body and size I can understand why he was on the Bronco's list. They have a quick hitting zone blocking scheme that relies much more on speed and precision than bulk and power.

I think he may become a good NFL OT/OG but IMO a guy like this represents a change in OT philosophy from massive power guys like Whit and road grader bulk guys like Smith.

Could be good, I am just wondering whether he might be better suited for a more spread out speed oriented offense.

He's definitely more suited for a zone blocking type of scheme. I admit it did make me wonder right away if the Bengals have plans to change up their OL philosophy but then I look at everyone on the current roster and think "no way". Maybe he ends up being a guard with the Bengals.

Totally agree - and with his quickness (the kid has near tight-end speed) I would think he could excel at guard. He is a ILB's nightmare - could really help our running game if he can also pull and play the other aspects of the G position.

Gotta get him healthy and see what he can do.


You guys are going to think I am a lunatic but I would take WR Jaelen Strong out of ASU with the next pick.

Yeah I hate taking WR's too early - this is purely an talent plus "impact now" pick.

I think he could end up being a number 1 in the NFL and might have as much upside as Cooper and White.

Someone may very well snag him ahead of the Bengals but if he is there I would grab him.

I can just see him ending up as a top 40 NFL WR.

I like Strong and Lockett as the wrs. Lockett gives return dimension.

I'd be happy with a DT like Jarrett of Clemson or Barrett of OSU for Atkins like guys or Phillips for a big man.

Totally agree with you guys on Strong. He has serious upside and potential. He's also came from a JUCO so he only played a couple of years in D1 and dominated pretty much immediately. I think he's going to be a steal for someone. As far as the Bengals go I really think they need a slot type of WR in this draft. They have the guys who can stretch the field (although they do lack that power WR as well) but seem to be lacking one of those guys you can exploit in the short/quick passing game.

(05-01-2015 12:21 PM)Marcus Wrote:  Totally agree with you guys on Strong. He has serious upside and potential. He's also came from a JUCO so he only played a couple of years in D1 and dominated pretty much immediately. I think he's going to be a steal for someone. As far as the Bengals go I really think they need a slot type of WR in this draft. They have the guys who can stretch the field (although they do lack that power WR as well) but seem to be lacking one of those guys you can exploit in the short/quick passing game.

Yes we missed Andrew Hawkins. That "under" threat guy.

I wondered about Strong not being D1 qualified out of HS but the guy got a 22 wonderlic which is a couple points above NFL average.

He probably won't be on the board anyway at 53, as Hawkeye pointed out, and neither may Lockett, but you never know.

I just hope that take a "maybe" WR or TE. If a real impact guy isn't there at the positions you are hoping to draft. Don't settle. Take the best available impact player regardless of position. LB, C, S, DL whatever - guys get nicked up all the time at every position and you always need high quality backups even for temporary fill in (as well as special teams).

I will go ahead and trust Paul Alexander on the OT from A&M. He seemed GIDDY in his presser about the kid. A few things I read and heard made it sound like if he didn't get hurt, he goes top 10. Seems like coming off an ACL isn't as big a deal for a lineman compared to skill guy.

People complaining about an impact guy at 21....who?? Ray & Dupree are tweeners. Bengals like HUGE DE's not tweeners that they have to convert to LB....How has that worked in the past?

I agree it would of been nice to trade back a few spots and still get the OT but it takes two to tango there.

Hope they go with a great value again in the 2nd...someone that has slipped that they didn't expect to be there. If I had my choice of position, I would like LB just because I think that spot couple play right away and A LOT compared to a WR.

With the 3 picks tonight I would like LB, WR, & DT/S/TE

(05-01-2015 12:44 PM)Eastside_J Wrote:  

(05-01-2015 12:21 PM)Marcus Wrote:  Totally agree with you guys on Strong. He has serious upside and potential. He's also came from a JUCO so he only played a couple of years in D1 and dominated pretty much immediately. I think he's going to be a steal for someone. As far as the Bengals go I really think they need a slot type of WR in this draft. They have the guys who can stretch the field (although they do lack that power WR as well) but seem to be lacking one of those guys you can exploit in the short/quick passing game.

Yes we missed Andrew Hawkins. That "under" threat guy.

I wondered about Strong not being D1 qualified out of HS but the guy got a 22 wonderlic which is a couple points above NFL average.

He probably won't be on the board anyway at 53, as Hawkeye pointed out, and neither may Lockett, but you never know.

I just hope that take a "maybe" WR or TE. If a real impact guy isn't there at the positions you are hoping to draft. Don't settle. Take the best available impact player regardless of position. LB, C, S, DL whatever - guys get nicked up all the time at every position and you always need high quality backups even for temporary fill in (as well as special teams).

SI.com/Don Banks has a 2nd rounder up. Strong doesn't quite make it to the Bengals going 2 picks before us to the Texans but Lockett goes surprisingly unpicked while they also have the Bengals taking Odighizuwa. I still don't see that although I could definitely see them taking DT Jordan Phillips if he's somehow still there (they have him going 1 pick AFTER the Bengals to Detroit).

(05-01-2015 12:09 PM)50Cent Wrote:  

(05-01-2015 10:50 AM)Eastside_J Wrote:  

(05-01-2015 09:51 AM)Marcus Wrote:  

(05-01-2015 09:41 AM)Eastside_J Wrote:  

(05-01-2015 09:17 AM)50Cent Wrote:  Just out of curiousity who was the immediate impact player you'd have taken?

I recall last year losing Andre smith during season. Bengals do have 20 returning starters and Michael Johnson back. Plus Dre was better than Newman at end of year.

20 teams passed on Dupree. 31 passed on malcom brown. Just saying don't always go off some rating. Peter King had Broncos taking ogbuehi at 25 in his last mock two days ago.

I would have loved to have gotten Shelton. But at 21 I'm not sure who was better option.

I'm guessing Ogbuehi plays last half of year somewhere or in some situation and that helps team. Grabbing guy who can play LT and would have been a top 10 pick is a good deal while not sexy.

Now had Parker slipped sure that would been great too or the USC receiver probably could have been productive this year. But with Jones coming back you can't pass on future LT.

It's all a crap shoot. I get bengals logic here and can't argue it.

Given his athleticism, body and size I can understand why he was on the Bronco's list. They have a quick hitting zone blocking scheme that relies much more on speed and precision than bulk and power.

I think he may become a good NFL OT/OG but IMO a guy like this represents a change in OT philosophy from massive power guys like Whit and road grader bulk guys like Smith.

Could be good, I am just wondering whether he might be better suited for a more spread out speed oriented offense.

He's definitely more suited for a zone blocking type of scheme. I admit it did make me wonder right away if the Bengals have plans to change up their OL philosophy but then I look at everyone on the current roster and think "no way". Maybe he ends up being a guard with the Bengals.

Totally agree - and with his quickness (the kid has near tight-end speed) I would think he could excel at guard. He is a ILB's nightmare - could really help our running game if he can also pull and play the other aspects of the G position.

Gotta get him healthy and see what he can do.


You guys are going to think I am a lunatic but I would take WR Jaelen Strong out of ASU with the next pick.

Yeah I hate taking WR's too early - this is purely an talent plus "impact now" pick.

I think he could end up being a number 1 in the NFL and might have as much upside as Cooper and White.

Someone may very well snag him ahead of the Bengals but if he is there I would grab him.

I can just see him ending up as a top 40 NFL WR.

I like Strong and Lockett as the wrs. Lockett gives return dimension.

I'd be happy with a DT like Jarrett of Clemson or Barrett of OSU for Atkins like guys or Phillips for a big man.

Jarrett is really intriguing - if that guy were 320 he would probably be gone by pick 50. But he is really strong and quicker than a heck of a lot of NFL NT's. Peko isn't going to last forever and probably is on the downside already. Probably a good fit for the Bengal D

I admit Bennett is also really good and really well coached/polished I honestly would probably be more excited about him if he weren't from the school in Columbus. If they take him I will get over that.

Jordan Phillips is an effing long, massive, hoss - hard to see him falling to 53 because he is such a physical prototype. I don't even know how good a football player the guy really is - he is just a freaking monster.

the steelers have reached in the first round the past few years and every time they do, i worry. of course they could draft miami's backup qb and i'd be concerned he's the next terry bradshaw

I'd be all over Jordan Phillips if he is still around at 53. I'd be shocked though if he was. That guy is so freaking explosive for his size.

Is this a joke?

Jake Fisher?

What are they doing??

Someone wake up bengals and inform them that Peko has Geathers syndrome. He is getting old and isn't productive and makes a decent amount of money.

Pass on strong and Lockett? Guess we will be keeping Tate another year.

Gonna love the tweets on this pick

And ravens trade up and grab the top TE

Jake Fisher
Oregon

What he brings: Fisher has outstanding foot quickness and lateral agility for the offensive tackle position, making him a very effective pass-blocker. He's an adequate run-blocker in zone-blocking schemes who can take advantage of that athleticism; however, his power base is just average, so he can struggle versus stronger run defenders.

How he fits: The Bengals continue to stock pile the offensive line with both LT Andrew Whitworth and RT Andre Smith becoming free agents after next season. This makes sense to ensure they continue to create room for a pair of the talented young runners in Jeremy Hill and Giovani Bernard while making sure they don't have to put too much on the shoulders of QB Andy Dalton.

Did some of you guys forget how bad the offensive line was at times last year?

Hell, the Bengals very well could be losing both of their current tackles after the season too.

Strong and Lockett go back to back. Maybe one of the DTs will be there.

Good news is La'el Collins and TJ Clemmons are still there for the taking with 3rd round selections.

I'm not a fan of the way they do the draft now. Watching it all day on a Saturday was way more fun.

(05-01-2015 09:23 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  I'm not a fan of the way they do the draft now. Watching it all day on a Saturday was way more fun.

No doubt. 3 rounds over 9-10 hours was great, then the last 4 rounds in the early afternoon on Sunday.

I've lost interest in watching it since they changed the format.