Halt production of near-20% enriched uranium and disable the configuration of the centrifuge cascades used to produce it
Start to dilute half of the near-20% enriched uranium stockpile that is in hexafluoride form, and continue to convert the rest to oxide form not suitable for further enrichment
Not enrich uranium in roughly half of the installed centrifuges at Natanz facility and three-quarters of the installed centrifuges at Fordo (Read our guide to Iran's nuclear facilities)
Limit its centrifuge production to those needed to replace damaged machines
Not construct additional enrichment facilities
Not go beyond its current enrichment research and development practices
Not commission or fuel the Arak heavy-water reactor
Halt the production and additional testing of fuel for the Arak reactor
Not install any additional reactor components at Arak
Not transfer fuel and heavy water to the Arak reactor site
Not construct a facility capable of reprocessing at Arak, preventing the separation of plutonium from spent fuel
Agree to a cap on the permitted size of Iran's up-to-5% enriched uranium stockpile
Allow IAEA inspectors to visit the Natanz and Fordo enrichment sites daily and the Arak reactor at least monthly
What the world powers will do
Provide "limited, temporary, targeted, and reversible [sanctions] relief". (See Q&A: Sanctions)
Not impose further nuclear-related sanctions if Iran meets its commitments
Transfer $4.2bn (£2.6bn) of oil revenue to Iran in instalments
Suspend the implementation of sanctions on Iran's petrochemical exports and its imports of goods and services for its automotive manufacturing sector
Pause efforts to further reduce purchases of crude oil from Iran by the six economies still purchasing oil from Iran
Suspend sanctions on Iran's imports and exports of gold and other precious metals
License the supply of spare parts and services for the safety of flight of Iran's civil aviation sector
Facilitate the establishment of a financial channel to support humanitarian trade already permitted with Iran and facilitate payments for UN obligations and tuition payments for students studying abroad
Modify the thresholds for EU internal procedures for the authorization of financial transactions

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-25080217

Grumpy McCain and the foolish 47 are pissed, no war with
Iran.

What is punishment for Obama and Kerry when they get a nuclear weapon? How has clinton and bush's deals with n korea worked out? Or all the middle east peace talks? This is not a told you so moment

This president will go down as the most damaging not just to our country, but to the world, as any president we have ever had.

(04-03-2015 01:39 PM)klake87 Wrote:  What is punishment for Obama and Kerry when they get a nuclear weapon? How has clinton and bush's deals with n korea worked out? Or all the middle east peace talks? This is not a told you so moment

Netanyahu asked us to get Saddam out of power in Iraq and he said it would weaken the whole region, including Iran. We did this and Iran became stronger. This isn't an issue caused by Obama. The Middle East has been a mess a long time and Israel's decisions have been part of the mess.

“You don’t want a war with Iran,” he explained. “You don’t want to bomb that country because the unintended consequences will set the world aflame. So if you can get something that’s decent, you give it a shot. I think that’s a legitimate point,” O’Reilly said to a surprised Gretchen Carlson, host of the network’s daytime show, The Real Story.
O’Reilly also warned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu against immediately rejecting the compromise, counseling the long-time opponent of talks to wait and see “specifically what the Iranians are going to agree to.”

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/04/0...give-shot/

(04-04-2015 08:54 AM)BobL Wrote:  “You don’t want a war with Iran,” he explained. “You don’t want to bomb that country because the unintended consequences will set the world aflame. So if you can get something that’s decent, you give it a shot. I think that’s a legitimate point,” O’Reilly said to a surprised Gretchen Carlson, host of the network’s daytime show, The Real Story.
O’Reilly also warned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu against immediately rejecting the compromise, counseling the long-time opponent of talks to wait and see “specifically what the Iranians are going to agree to.”

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/04/0...give-shot/

Yes if you give a bully your lunch money you won't get your butt kicked right then and there, but you have not changed the behavior of the bully and he is going to terrorize a lot more people than you if left unchecked. History tells us as much, and we did not learn from it. O'Reilly is an idiot sometimes, the man speaks from both sides of his mouth, especially Id say in the last 2 or 3 years.

A certain section of congress refuses to compromise and will cut off their nose to spite their face. They'd rather suffer the long term consequences and not get what they want at all as opposed to getting most of what they want. Its always the same group whether its iran negotiations, domestic policy, or Cuba. All or nothing approach gets them nothing over and over again when they could be getting at least some or even most of what they want.

(04-04-2015 02:54 PM)niuguy Wrote:  A certain section of congress refuses to compromise and will cut off their nose to spite their face. They'd rather suffer the long term consequences and not get what they want at all as opposed to getting most of what they want. Its always the same group whether its iran negotiations, domestic policy, or Cuba. All or nothing approach gets them nothing over and over again when they could be getting at least some or even most of what they want.

And you know, THANK GOD there are people trying to put blockades against this radicalism. If it weren't for Congress, just imagine where we would be now. In fact I think Congress has caved in WAY WAY more than they should have.

Gorby's wisdom "trust but verify". If Iran makes any missteps the sanctions wlll be back on that will cripple their economy again. Would hope they are not that dumb

(04-04-2015 08:54 AM)BobL Wrote:  “You don’t want a war with Iran,” he explained. “You don’t want to bomb that country because the unintended consequences will set the world aflame. So if you can get something that’s decent, you give it a shot. I think that’s a legitimate point,” O’Reilly said to a surprised Gretchen Carlson, host of the network’s daytime show, The Real Story.
O’Reilly also warned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu against immediately rejecting the compromise, counseling the long-time opponent of talks to wait and see “specifically what the Iranians are going to agree to.”

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/04/0...give-shot/

Ol Gretchen must have messed herself when Billo dropped those words on her. That was the last thing she expected to come out of O'Relly's mouth

(04-04-2015 09:13 PM)Policiious Wrote:  Gorby's wisdom "trust but verify". If Iran makes any missteps the sanctions wlll be back on that will cripple their economy again. Would hope they are not that dumb

Its the world's LARGEST state sponsor of TERRORISM, so the word trust does not really apply here, and neither does verify, they wont allow inspectors everywhere they need to go. There is no other way to put it, and I don't care about stupid politics here, the US got played and played like a fiddle. Desperations to create a legacy just made the world a whole lot more dangerous and probably set the stage for a third world war. It will be a legacy all right, but one that will be a tragic one.

Does this potential deal slow down iran getting a nuclear weapon? Or is it kicking the can down the road.

(04-05-2015 12:24 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-04-2015 09:13 PM)Policiious Wrote:  Gorby's wisdom "trust but verify". If Iran makes any missteps the sanctions wlll be back on that will cripple their economy again. Would hope they are not that dumb

Its the world's LARGEST state sponsor of TERRORISM, so the word trust does not really apply here, and neither does verify, they wont allow inspectors everywhere they need to go. There is no other way to put it, and I don't care about stupid politics here, the US got played and played like a fiddle. Desperations to create a legacy just made the world a whole lot more dangerous and probably set the stage for a third world war. It will be a legacy all right, but one that will be a tragic one.

The USSR was at one time a huge sponsor of insurrection all over the world. Over time they learned that there is a price for trying to foment problems. Sanctions had Iran in a stranglehold which can be put in place again if they screw this agreement up.

For you to comment that politics don't factor into your opinions when everything you post regarding any issue is negative toward the President, who are crappin

(04-05-2015 03:43 PM)klake87 Wrote:  Does this potential deal slow down iran getting a nuclear weapon? Or is it kicking the can down the road.

Wouldn't kicking the can down the road be slowing down Iran getting a nuclear weapon? Sanctions have crippled their economy, if they screw up those sanctions can be implemented again. I doubt they will be removed all at once

They will still be moving towards nuclear bombs. Their centrifuges are still in tact. Nothing changes except they get evonomuc relief

(04-05-2015 07:29 PM)Policiious Wrote:  

(04-05-2015 03:43 PM)klake87 Wrote:  Does this potential deal slow down iran getting a nuclear weapon? Or is it kicking the can down the road.

Wouldn't kicking the can down the road be slowing down Iran getting a nuclear weapon? Sanctions have crippled their economy, if they screw up those sanctions can be implemented again. I doubt they will be removed all at once

Kicking the can down the road would be 100X better than this deal. In 10-15 years Iran is in the clear to do whatever they want and will have the infrastructure still in place, even if they honor the current deal (which they won't). Hopefully Congress can override any potential deal right now

(04-04-2015 12:37 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-04-2015 08:54 AM)BobL Wrote:  “You don’t want a war with Iran,” he explained. “You don’t want to bomb that country because the unintended consequences will set the world aflame. So if you can get something that’s decent, you give it a shot. I think that’s a legitimate point,” O’Reilly said to a surprised Gretchen Carlson, host of the network’s daytime show, The Real Story.
O’Reilly also warned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu against immediately rejecting the compromise, counseling the long-time opponent of talks to wait and see “specifically what the Iranians are going to agree to.”

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/04/0...give-shot/

Yes if you give a bully your lunch money you won't get your butt kicked right then and there, but you have not changed the behavior of the bully and he is going to terrorize a lot more people than you if left unchecked. History tells us as much, and we did not learn from it. O'Reilly is an idiot sometimes, the man speaks from both sides of his mouth, especially Id say in the last 2 or 3 years.

What is your answer? The McCain mantra of "Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran?

(04-12-2015 10:45 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-04-2015 12:37 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-04-2015 08:54 AM)BobL Wrote:  “You don’t want a war with Iran,” he explained. “You don’t want to bomb that country because the unintended consequences will set the world aflame. So if you can get something that’s decent, you give it a shot. I think that’s a legitimate point,” O’Reilly said to a surprised Gretchen Carlson, host of the network’s daytime show, The Real Story.
O’Reilly also warned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu against immediately rejecting the compromise, counseling the long-time opponent of talks to wait and see “specifically what the Iranians are going to agree to.”

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/04/0...give-shot/

Yes if you give a bully your lunch money you won't get your butt kicked right then and there, but you have not changed the behavior of the bully and he is going to terrorize a lot more people than you if left unchecked. History tells us as much, and we did not learn from it. O'Reilly is an idiot sometimes, the man speaks from both sides of his mouth, especially Id say in the last 2 or 3 years.

What is your answer? The McCain mantra of "Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran?

Of course war is the only answer, Peace is bad for business when it concerns the military industrial complex that is in charge of this nation

(04-05-2015 07:39 PM)klake87 Wrote:  They will still be moving towards nuclear bombs. Their centrifuges are still in tact. Nothing changes except they get evonomuc relief

This is how it was explained on a sunday news show:

Currently Iran has a breakout time of 3 months.

The deal increases that to one year and requires a significant and constant international observer presence.

Increasing from three months to one year provides more than enough time for the international community to react militarily if Iran kicked out observers and decided to weaponize.

To me that makes alot of sense...currently 3 month breakout time, deal 12 month.