(04-03-2015 10:35 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  Evan Daniels ‏@EvanDaniels · 10m10 minutes ago
Source tells Scout that Richard Pitino was heavily in the mix for the Alabama job, but will stay at Minnesota.

They are thinking that their best chance now is Alabama native Mike Anderson............

(04-03-2015 10:18 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 10:04 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 09:52 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 09:27 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 02:41 PM)mphsfan Wrote:  I'd talk to Andy Kennedy if I was the AD.

just don't have a cab pick him up at the airport

So original.

Tendinitis

LMAO

Man you have a hard on for saluki. Follow that guy all over God's green earth.

I read threads and comment whenever I feel like it, regardless of who says what. Each comment has a standalone justification for it. Saluki mocked a poster for not being original.

Saluki has posted something tendinitis related probably over 100 times. It is strange to say the least that he would mock someone for being repetitive when he repeats the same stuff all the time.

Must be one helluva P5 job when you can't pull the coach from Minnesota.

(04-03-2015 01:18 AM)jason80 Wrote:  It's kinda quiet on all fronts here in memphis basketball. I'm not sure what's going on really. Pastner hasn't really adressed the media to my knowledge or had the end of the year presser to sell us on how next year will be so much better because this and that. There has been no movement in coaching changes or transfers coming in. It seems to be at a stand still. I'm not sure if he is weighing his options and if Alabama, VCU or ASU comes calling his out. There doesn't really seem to be anything coming from anywhere. It's kinda weirdly silent. I'm not sure what that means. I know this will be labeled another hate thread towards Pastner but really I just want to know what's going on as I'm sure most Tiger fans would like to know. Who knows just all seems strange to me at the moment. Maybe I'm just overreacting but when was the last time we actually heard anyting about the future and what next year looks like. Seems you would atleast be out there selling the hope of the Lawson's coming in with Austin and Shaq. Maybe this is all normal but it seems other years he was on radio doing interviews selling the program but so far nothing. I dunno what any of it means if anything. I assume he's coming back so shouldn't he be out touting the incoming class and the hopes of a good year?

Yep, season ticket renewals are due May 1 also and is has been pretty quiet.

Bama went from willing to pay $4 million to Marshall to being turned down by the Minnesota coach with a 61-42 career record.

(04-03-2015 10:18 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  Man you have a hard on for saluki. Follow that guy all over God's green earth.

Stammers: 23,833 posts....23,830 of those are attacking Saluki and Bluto.

(04-03-2015 11:04 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Bama went from willing to pay $4 million to Marshall to being turned down by the Minnesota coach with a 61-42 career record.

That just means that we will NEVER get a good coach since we are non-P5. lol

(04-03-2015 10:33 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 10:03 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 05:00 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 04:42 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 02:30 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  Making a wow hire at Alabama is not easy. Making one at Memphis is far far far easier for the same amount of money.

P5 with one of the wealthiest athletics program in the nation. Memphis is not in the same league with AL. Recent NC in multiple sports.

Are you serious right now? Alabama basketball is a wimp even in the SEC. Coleman coliseum is a slightly more ADA compliant Memphis coliseum (the one being torn down). Football runs the show there and basketball isn't even lucky enough to be an afterthought. Their AD may be getting serious about spending dough, but it is only because he is scared Auburn's mediocrity will be better than theirs. Alabama can't hold a candle to Memphis' basketball program, just as we can't hold a candle to their football program. P5 doesn't even come close to making them better than us, and we have one of the most financially viable basketball programs in the country.

How about if you back up what you say by listing the successful, established coaches hired by non P5 programs in the last 5 years.

You are asking for a needle in a haystack. There are probably less than 10 non-P5 programs that could be comparable to us. None of those programs have been searching for coaches either between Villanova, Georgetown, Cincinnati, formerly Louisville, UConn went with a long time assistant instead of searching, but I may be missing someone else comparable. The truth is coaching vacancies very rarely exist for our type of job. Most of those listed programs have entrenched good coaches (Ollie being the exception).

Mick Cronin - Murray State, 0 NCAA wins
Jay Wright - Hoftstra, 0 NCAA wins
John Thompson III - Princeton, 0 NCAA wins
Kevin Ollie - None, 0 NCAA wins
Dave Rice - None, 0 NCAA wins
Fran Dunphy - Penn, 1 NCAA win in 17 years
Chris Mullin - None, 0 NCAA wins
Wojco - None, 0 NCAA wins
Mark Few - None, 0 NCAA wins
Dave Rose - None, 0 NCAA wins
Chris Mack - None, 0 NCAA wins
Steve Fisher - Michigan, 19 NCAA wins, 10 vacated, 6 as interim coach
Gregg Marshall - Winthrop - 1 NCAA win in 9 years

On one hand, you should thank me for doing your work for you. On the other hand, I just proved that everything you said was wrong. It was wrong 10 years ago, it is wrong now, and it will always be wrong.

(04-03-2015 11:15 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 10:33 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 10:03 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 05:00 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 04:42 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:   P5 with one of the wealthiest athletics program in the nation. Memphis is not in the same league with AL. Recent NC in multiple sports.

Are you serious right now? Alabama basketball is a wimp even in the SEC. Coleman coliseum is a slightly more ADA compliant Memphis coliseum (the one being torn down). Football runs the show there and basketball isn't even lucky enough to be an afterthought. Their AD may be getting serious about spending dough, but it is only because he is scared Auburn's mediocrity will be better than theirs. Alabama can't hold a candle to Memphis' basketball program, just as we can't hold a candle to their football program. P5 doesn't even come close to making them better than us, and we have one of the most financially viable basketball programs in the country.

How about if you back up what you say by listing the successful, established coaches hired by non P5 programs in the last 5 years.

You are asking for a needle in a haystack. There are probably less than 10 non-P5 programs that could be comparable to us. None of those programs have been searching for coaches either between Villanova, Georgetown, Cincinnati, formerly Louisville, UConn went with a long time assistant instead of searching, but I may be missing someone else comparable. The truth is coaching vacancies very rarely exist for our type of job. Most of those listed programs have entrenched good coaches (Ollie being the exception).

Mick Cronin - Murray State, 0 NCAA wins
Jay Wright - Hoftstra, 0 NCAA wins
John Thompson III - Princeton, 0 NCAA wins
Kevin Ollie - None, 0 NCAA wins
Dave Rice - None, 0 NCAA wins
Fran Dunphy - Penn, 1 NCAA win in 17 years
Chris Mullin - None, 0 NCAA wins
Wojco - None, 0 NCAA wins
Mark Few - None, 0 NCAA wins
Dave Rose - None, 0 NCAA wins
Chris Mack - None, 0 NCAA wins
Steve Fisher - Michigan, 19 NCAA wins, 10 vacated, 6 as interim coach
Gregg Marshall - Winthrop - 1 NCAA win in 9 years

On one hand, you should thank me for doing your work for you. On the other hand, I just proved that everything you said was wrong. It was wrong 10 years ago, it is wrong now, and it will always be wrong.

None of which is recent history. Many of those programs are not comparable to our situation either. No one expects Wichita St., Gonzaga, BYU, or UNLV to be able to draw big names to non destinations.

(04-03-2015 11:06 AM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 10:18 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  Man you have a hard on for saluki. Follow that guy all over God's green earth.

Stammers: 23,833 posts....23,830 of those are attacking Saluki and Bluto.

And you do what in your posts?

LMAO

(04-03-2015 11:07 AM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 11:04 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Bama went from willing to pay $4 million to Marshall to being turned down by the Minnesota coach with a 61-42 career record.

That just means that we will NEVER get a good coach since we are non-P5. lol

Link?

LMAO

(04-03-2015 11:22 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 11:15 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 10:33 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 10:03 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 05:00 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  Are you serious right now? Alabama basketball is a wimp even in the SEC. Coleman coliseum is a slightly more ADA compliant Memphis coliseum (the one being torn down). Football runs the show there and basketball isn't even lucky enough to be an afterthought. Their AD may be getting serious about spending dough, but it is only because he is scared Auburn's mediocrity will be better than theirs. Alabama can't hold a candle to Memphis' basketball program, just as we can't hold a candle to their football program. P5 doesn't even come close to making them better than us, and we have one of the most financially viable basketball programs in the country.

How about if you back up what you say by listing the successful, established coaches hired by non P5 programs in the last 5 years.

You are asking for a needle in a haystack. There are probably less than 10 non-P5 programs that could be comparable to us. None of those programs have been searching for coaches either between Villanova, Georgetown, Cincinnati, formerly Louisville, UConn went with a long time assistant instead of searching, but I may be missing someone else comparable. The truth is coaching vacancies very rarely exist for our type of job. Most of those listed programs have entrenched good coaches (Ollie being the exception).

Mick Cronin - Murray State, 0 NCAA wins
Jay Wright - Hoftstra, 0 NCAA wins
John Thompson III - Princeton, 0 NCAA wins
Kevin Ollie - None, 0 NCAA wins
Dave Rice - None, 0 NCAA wins
Fran Dunphy - Penn, 1 NCAA win in 17 years
Chris Mullin - None, 0 NCAA wins
Wojco - None, 0 NCAA wins
Mark Few - None, 0 NCAA wins
Dave Rose - None, 0 NCAA wins
Chris Mack - None, 0 NCAA wins
Steve Fisher - Michigan, 19 NCAA wins, 10 vacated, 6 as interim coach
Gregg Marshall - Winthrop - 1 NCAA win in 9 years

On one hand, you should thank me for doing your work for you. On the other hand, I just proved that everything you said was wrong. It was wrong 10 years ago, it is wrong now, and it will always be wrong.

None of which is recent history. Many of those programs are not comparable to our situation either. No one expects Wichita St., Gonzaga, BYU, or UNLV to be able to draw big names to non destinations.

Marquette, St. John's, Xavier and UNLV are all recent. Las Vegas isn't a destination? BYU averages over 15,000 and often 15,900 attendance per game.

And btw, what does a destination have to do with anything? Most of the peer programs listed are better than a lot of P5 programs, but they still don't attract great candidates. Virginia Tech, a nothing P5 program, managed to hire Buzz Williams.

At the end of the day you're still left with statements that are completely false and zero facts to back them up.

(04-03-2015 11:39 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 11:22 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 11:15 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 10:33 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 10:03 AM)Stammers Wrote:  How about if you back up what you say by listing the successful, established coaches hired by non P5 programs in the last 5 years.

You are asking for a needle in a haystack. There are probably less than 10 non-P5 programs that could be comparable to us. None of those programs have been searching for coaches either between Villanova, Georgetown, Cincinnati, formerly Louisville, UConn went with a long time assistant instead of searching, but I may be missing someone else comparable. The truth is coaching vacancies very rarely exist for our type of job. Most of those listed programs have entrenched good coaches (Ollie being the exception).

Mick Cronin - Murray State, 0 NCAA wins
Jay Wright - Hoftstra, 0 NCAA wins
John Thompson III - Princeton, 0 NCAA wins
Kevin Ollie - None, 0 NCAA wins
Dave Rice - None, 0 NCAA wins
Fran Dunphy - Penn, 1 NCAA win in 17 years
Chris Mullin - None, 0 NCAA wins
Wojco - None, 0 NCAA wins
Mark Few - None, 0 NCAA wins
Dave Rose - None, 0 NCAA wins
Chris Mack - None, 0 NCAA wins
Steve Fisher - Michigan, 19 NCAA wins, 10 vacated, 6 as interim coach
Gregg Marshall - Winthrop - 1 NCAA win in 9 years

On one hand, you should thank me for doing your work for you. On the other hand, I just proved that everything you said was wrong. It was wrong 10 years ago, it is wrong now, and it will always be wrong.

None of which is recent history. Many of those programs are not comparable to our situation either. No one expects Wichita St., Gonzaga, BYU, or UNLV to be able to draw big names to non destinations.

Marquette, St. John's, Xavier and UNLV are all recent. Las Vegas isn't a destination? BYU averages over 15,000 and often 15,900 attendance per game.

And btw, what does a destination have to do with anything? Most of the peer programs listed are better than a lot of P5 programs, but they still don't attract great candidates. Virginia Tech, a nothing P5 program, managed to hire Buzz Williams.

At the end of the day you're still left with statements that are completely false and zero facts to back them up.

1. Marquette-no recruiting base, not a very large fan base, terrible location, not many studs want to become Uppers. Lost their coach due to scuffle with AD.
2. St. John's-haven't been relevant the entire time I have been alive, no recruiting base despite massive population, maybe a destination for tourist but not for bball studs, smaller fan base.
3. BYU-zero recruiting base, inability to get big time recruits due to honor code and the lack of Samoan bball players, not a terrible location, religious constraints hold them back. You don't find a Jimmer every day.
4. UNLV-only recruiting base is Bishop Gorman, have some money but very little recent success, Vegas isn't a basketball city or a great place to live for coaches families, saying UNLV is a destination is like saying UCF is a destination because of their city
5. Xavier-hired a long time assistant just like UConn, not a very big fan base, not a ton of money, overshadowed by Cincy and Ohio St. when not good, has a moderately good recruiting base though.

HOWEVER

6. Memphis
-Massive fan base
-Recruiting hotbed for both sports
-Large alumni base
-Huge corporate donors
-Has recent before Pastner success
-Can pay on par with all but maybe 6 P5s that are basketball serious
-No basketball competition in our region

(04-02-2015 10:09 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 09:55 PM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  The idea that Marshall's choice somehow proves that we can keep up with P5 in the sports arm race is ill conceived. The gap is real and getting wider. This movie ends one way for non-p5's.

So true. Poor Alabama just can't compete with P5 Wichita St.....in Wichita....Kansas....

One coach. One decision. I guess you are right, the world of collegiate sports isn't changing at all. We should probably scale back our efforts to get into a p-5 conference, a brochure should cover it...

(04-03-2015 12:07 PM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 10:09 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 09:55 PM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  The idea that Marshall's choice somehow proves that we can keep up with P5 in the sports arm race is ill conceived. The gap is real and getting wider. This movie ends one way for non-p5's.

So true. Poor Alabama just can't compete with P5 Wichita St.....in Wichita....Kansas....

One coach. One decision. I guess you are right, the world of collegiate sports isn't changing at all. We should probably scale back our efforts to get into a p-5 conference, a brochure should cover it...

Uh not sure how you got that out of my post. Completely and totally not what I was getting at.

(04-03-2015 12:02 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 11:39 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 11:22 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 11:15 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 10:33 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  You are asking for a needle in a haystack. There are probably less than 10 non-P5 programs that could be comparable to us. None of those programs have been searching for coaches either between Villanova, Georgetown, Cincinnati, formerly Louisville, UConn went with a long time assistant instead of searching, but I may be missing someone else comparable. The truth is coaching vacancies very rarely exist for our type of job. Most of those listed programs have entrenched good coaches (Ollie being the exception).

Mick Cronin - Murray State, 0 NCAA wins
Jay Wright - Hoftstra, 0 NCAA wins
John Thompson III - Princeton, 0 NCAA wins
Kevin Ollie - None, 0 NCAA wins
Dave Rice - None, 0 NCAA wins
Fran Dunphy - Penn, 1 NCAA win in 17 years
Chris Mullin - None, 0 NCAA wins
Wojco - None, 0 NCAA wins
Mark Few - None, 0 NCAA wins
Dave Rose - None, 0 NCAA wins
Chris Mack - None, 0 NCAA wins
Steve Fisher - Michigan, 19 NCAA wins, 10 vacated, 6 as interim coach
Gregg Marshall - Winthrop - 1 NCAA win in 9 years

On one hand, you should thank me for doing your work for you. On the other hand, I just proved that everything you said was wrong. It was wrong 10 years ago, it is wrong now, and it will always be wrong.

None of which is recent history. Many of those programs are not comparable to our situation either. No one expects Wichita St., Gonzaga, BYU, or UNLV to be able to draw big names to non destinations.

Marquette, St. John's, Xavier and UNLV are all recent. Las Vegas isn't a destination? BYU averages over 15,000 and often 15,900 attendance per game.

And btw, what does a destination have to do with anything? Most of the peer programs listed are better than a lot of P5 programs, but they still don't attract great candidates. Virginia Tech, a nothing P5 program, managed to hire Buzz Williams.

At the end of the day you're still left with statements that are completely false and zero facts to back them up.

1. Marquette-no recruiting base, not a very large fan base, terrible location, not many studs want to become Uppers. Lost their coach due to scuffle with AD.
2. St. John's-haven't been relevant the entire time I have been alive, no recruiting base despite massive population, maybe a destination for tourist but not for bball studs, smaller fan base.
3. BYU-zero recruiting base, inability to get big time recruits due to honor code and the lack of Samoan bball players, not a terrible location, religious constraints hold them back. You don't find a Jimmer every day.
4. UNLV-only recruiting base is Bishop Gorman, have some money but very little recent success, Vegas isn't a basketball city or a great place to live for coaches families, saying UNLV is a destination is like saying UCF is a destination because of their city
5. Xavier-hired a long time assistant just like UConn, not a very big fan base, not a ton of money, overshadowed by Cincy and Ohio St. when not good, has a moderately good recruiting base though.

HOWEVER

6. Memphis
-Massive fan base
-Recruiting hotbed for both sports
-Large alumni base
-Huge corporate donors
-Has recent before Pastner success
-Can pay on par with all but maybe 6 P5s that are basketball serious
-No basketball competition in our region

Not so fast on that pay on par with P5s. Our athletic department is in horrible financial shape. and cost of attendance is going to change the game. In a casino the house has a slight edge over the player in blackjack, but over time that slight edge makes it impossible for the player to win. The P-5's have a huge entrenched edge over us so over a very short period of time it becomes impossible to compete. Yes, we have huge corporate sponsors right this minute, that helps us mitigate this somewhat, but Fred is 70 years old, who knows what the eventual new guy will decide to invest in. We can tread water for a couple of years, but we are literally half a decade away from being a total and complete mid major. Coaches know this, even if fans don't.

(04-02-2015 03:03 PM)mphsfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 03:00 PM)UofMTigerFan Wrote:  My money is on Prohm. He is a very good coach and an AL alum.

and it would be the best hire they've made in years, but I doubt they will do that. They want a name to match their checkbook.

Hmmm; let's see is there a precedent here ........ has Bammer ever hired a coach from Murray State that was an alumnus & then fired him?

Busted gif link again.

(04-03-2015 12:16 PM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 12:02 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 11:39 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 11:22 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 11:15 AM)Stammers Wrote:  Mick Cronin - Murray State, 0 NCAA wins
Jay Wright - Hoftstra, 0 NCAA wins
John Thompson III - Princeton, 0 NCAA wins
Kevin Ollie - None, 0 NCAA wins
Dave Rice - None, 0 NCAA wins
Fran Dunphy - Penn, 1 NCAA win in 17 years
Chris Mullin - None, 0 NCAA wins
Wojco - None, 0 NCAA wins
Mark Few - None, 0 NCAA wins
Dave Rose - None, 0 NCAA wins
Chris Mack - None, 0 NCAA wins
Steve Fisher - Michigan, 19 NCAA wins, 10 vacated, 6 as interim coach
Gregg Marshall - Winthrop - 1 NCAA win in 9 years

On one hand, you should thank me for doing your work for you. On the other hand, I just proved that everything you said was wrong. It was wrong 10 years ago, it is wrong now, and it will always be wrong.

None of which is recent history. Many of those programs are not comparable to our situation either. No one expects Wichita St., Gonzaga, BYU, or UNLV to be able to draw big names to non destinations.

Marquette, St. John's, Xavier and UNLV are all recent. Las Vegas isn't a destination? BYU averages over 15,000 and often 15,900 attendance per game.

And btw, what does a destination have to do with anything? Most of the peer programs listed are better than a lot of P5 programs, but they still don't attract great candidates. Virginia Tech, a nothing P5 program, managed to hire Buzz Williams.

At the end of the day you're still left with statements that are completely false and zero facts to back them up.

1. Marquette-no recruiting base, not a very large fan base, terrible location, not many studs want to become Uppers. Lost their coach due to scuffle with AD.
2. St. John's-haven't been relevant the entire time I have been alive, no recruiting base despite massive population, maybe a destination for tourist but not for bball studs, smaller fan base.
3. BYU-zero recruiting base, inability to get big time recruits due to honor code and the lack of Samoan bball players, not a terrible location, religious constraints hold them back. You don't find a Jimmer every day.
4. UNLV-only recruiting base is Bishop Gorman, have some money but very little recent success, Vegas isn't a basketball city or a great place to live for coaches families, saying UNLV is a destination is like saying UCF is a destination because of their city
5. Xavier-hired a long time assistant just like UConn, not a very big fan base, not a ton of money, overshadowed by Cincy and Ohio St. when not good, has a moderately good recruiting base though.

HOWEVER

6. Memphis
-Massive fan base
-Recruiting hotbed for both sports
-Large alumni base
-Huge corporate donors
-Has recent before Pastner success
-Can pay on par with all but maybe 6 P5s that are basketball serious
-No basketball competition in our region

Not so fast on that pay on par with P5s. Our athletic department is in horrible financial shape. and cost of attendance is going to change the game. In a casino the house has a slight edge over the player in blackjack, but over time that slight edge makes it impossible for the player to win. The P-5's have a huge entrenched edge over us so over a very short period of time it becomes impossible to compete. Yes, we have huge corporate sponsors right this minute, that helps us mitigate this somewhat, but Fred is 70 years old, who knows what the eventual new guy will decide to invest in. We can tread water for a couple of years, but we are literally half a decade away from being a total and complete mid major. Coaches know this, even if fans don't.

Financial shape has never meant anything in NCAA athletics. UTK is in $200 million dollars of athletic debt. They keep hiring coaches in both sports like they are going out of style. It would take them 10 years to pay that debt off if they spent every dime of their TV contract toward debt payments. Lets be honest, we can definitely compete with that mess of an athletic department in basketball.

(04-03-2015 01:21 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 12:16 PM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 12:02 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 11:39 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 11:22 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  None of which is recent history. Many of those programs are not comparable to our situation either. No one expects Wichita St., Gonzaga, BYU, or UNLV to be able to draw big names to non destinations.

Marquette, St. John's, Xavier and UNLV are all recent. Las Vegas isn't a destination? BYU averages over 15,000 and often 15,900 attendance per game.

And btw, what does a destination have to do with anything? Most of the peer programs listed are better than a lot of P5 programs, but they still don't attract great candidates. Virginia Tech, a nothing P5 program, managed to hire Buzz Williams.

At the end of the day you're still left with statements that are completely false and zero facts to back them up.

1. Marquette-no recruiting base, not a very large fan base, terrible location, not many studs want to become Uppers. Lost their coach due to scuffle with AD.
2. St. John's-haven't been relevant the entire time I have been alive, no recruiting base despite massive population, maybe a destination for tourist but not for bball studs, smaller fan base.
3. BYU-zero recruiting base, inability to get big time recruits due to honor code and the lack of Samoan bball players, not a terrible location, religious constraints hold them back. You don't find a Jimmer every day.
4. UNLV-only recruiting base is Bishop Gorman, have some money but very little recent success, Vegas isn't a basketball city or a great place to live for coaches families, saying UNLV is a destination is like saying UCF is a destination because of their city
5. Xavier-hired a long time assistant just like UConn, not a very big fan base, not a ton of money, overshadowed by Cincy and Ohio St. when not good, has a moderately good recruiting base though.

HOWEVER

6. Memphis
-Massive fan base
-Recruiting hotbed for both sports
-Large alumni base
-Huge corporate donors
-Has recent before Pastner success
-Can pay on par with all but maybe 6 P5s that are basketball serious
-No basketball competition in our region

Not so fast on that pay on par with P5s. Our athletic department is in horrible financial shape. and cost of attendance is going to change the game. In a casino the house has a slight edge over the player in blackjack, but over time that slight edge makes it impossible for the player to win. The P-5's have a huge entrenched edge over us so over a very short period of time it becomes impossible to compete. Yes, we have huge corporate sponsors right this minute, that helps us mitigate this somewhat, but Fred is 70 years old, who knows what the eventual new guy will decide to invest in. We can tread water for a couple of years, but we are literally half a decade away from being a total and complete mid major. Coaches know this, even if fans don't.

Financial shape has never meant anything in NCAA athletics. UTK is in $200 million dollars of athletic debt. They keep hiring coaches in both sports like they are going out of style. It would take them 10 years to pay that debt off if they spent every dime of their TV contract toward debt payments. Lets be honest, we can definitely compete with that mess of an athletic department in basketball.

Let's be honest and also very frank......we don't have to....they're not even catching up