(03-31-2015 09:07 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I think USF with Taggart is going nowhere.

It's going where it needs to go.

(04-01-2015 06:29 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 09:07 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I think USF with Taggart is going nowhere.

It's going where it needs to go.

And pin thing anyone thinks or post here will decide what happens with Taggart and USF. It will be decided by how his team performs in the Fall

The fact that some USF fans use a student-athlete's tragic death as their go-to trump card for silly rivalry banter is sickening and unforgivable. I have a pit in my stomach just reading it. You have a problem with UCF? Talk about 4-0, talk about the resume, talk about 64-12, talk about the stadium, talk about whatever makes you feel good about yourself. But using Ereck Plancher's passing is about as disgusting as you can get. Then some of you wonder why you have the reputation you have.

Players like Ereck Plancher at UCF, Keeley Dorsey at USF, Devaughn Darling at FSU, and Eraste Austin at UF should absolutely NEVER be used in rivalry banter. I hope fans of all teams agree to this.

(04-01-2015 09:44 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  The fact that some USF fans use a student-athlete's tragic death as their go-to trump card for silly rivalry banter is sickening and unforgivable. I have a pit in my stomach just reading it. You have a problem with UCF? Talk about 4-0, talk about the resume, talk about 64-12, talk about the stadium, talk about whatever makes you feel good about yourself. But using Ereck Plancher's passing is about as disgusting as you can get. Then some of you wonder why you have the reputation you have.

Players like Ereck Plancher at UCF, Keeley Dorsey at USF, Devaughn Darling at FSU, and Eraste Austin at UF should absolutely NEVER be used in rivalry banter. I hope fans of all teams agree to this.

Talk about throwing rocks in glass houses

Yeesh.

Agreed, St.

Fwiw according to docs he did not disclose it and the coaches did not know. What they were hit for was not having sufficient training and not aiding him quickly enough. Again they thought it was a reaction to a difficult practice. The type of ruling that was levied does not require as rigorous of a definition as a criminal ruling etc. either way the point was leave the kids passing out of message board arguments.

Knightbengal, you are wrong. The very basis of UCF being found culpable was based upon your knowledge. Heres the link:

Did UCF know about the sickle-cell trait?
Yes. On the day the autopsy report was released, UCF spokesman Grant Heston told the Sentinel the school learned Plancher had the trait during a team physical exam in January 2007.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/or...tml#page=1



This is where all of you are wrong and I dont doubt that I get another warning for not agreeing with a mod...

The huge difference is that KnightBengal and others have tried to put this on the kid and the court clearly showed that it was UCF who did not act appropriately. To compare to USFs death is insane because our kid was never diagnosed, never collapsed multiple times during practice, was not ridiculed by our head coach and did not die as a result of anything USF did. Glass house my ass. UCF fans love to try to deflect and not take responsibilty for all the **** your team has done.

Simple fact is that your coach presided over a practice that ran a kid to his death and your fans try to make it out to be HIS fault and that is ******* disgusting. I havent brought it up in quite a while until one of YOUR fans tried to make it out as the victims fault. So really, get off your high horse and be really honest for once. Your school did a horrible thing and to even compare it to several other accidents where the university was found to not be at fault only makes you look like petty children.

I could so respect UCF if they ever accepted responsibility for anything you do. For christs sake you keep cheating and instead of saying it was wrong all i ever hear is "none of the players made it onto the field." well congrats, you not only suck at ethics but you also suck at cheating. SMDH!

How totally unpredictable. A BS thread going off topic and into the Crapper! Amazing!!!!

(04-02-2015 08:10 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Knightbengal, you are wrong. The very basis of UCF being found culpable was based upon your knowledge. Heres the link:

Did UCF know about the sickle-cell trait?
Yes. On the day the autopsy report was released, UCF spokesman Grant Heston told the Sentinel the school learned Plancher had the trait during a team physical exam in January 2007.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/or...tml#page=1



This is where all of you are wrong and I dont doubt that I get another warning for not agreeing with a mod...

The huge difference is that KnightBengal and others have tried to put this on the kid and the court clearly showed that it was UCF who did not act appropriately. To compare to USFs death is insane because our kid was never diagnosed, never collapsed multiple times during practice, was not ridiculed by our head coach and did not die as a result of anything USF did. Glass house my ass. UCF fans love to try to deflect and not take responsibilty for all the **** your team has done.

Simple fact is that your coach presided over a practice that ran a kid to his death and your fans try to make it out to be HIS fault and that is ******* disgusting. I havent brought it up in quite a while until one of YOUR fans tried to make it out as the victims fault. So really, get off your high horse and be really honest for once. Your school did a horrible thing and to even compare it to several other accidents where the university was found to not be at fault only makes you look like petty children.

I could so respect UCF if they ever accepted responsibility for anything you do. For christs sake you keep cheating and instead of saying it was wrong all i ever hear is "none of the players made it onto the field." well congrats, you not only suck at ethics but you also suck at cheating. SMDH!

(04-02-2015 08:10 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Knightbengal, you are wrong. The very basis of UCF being found culpable was based upon your knowledge. Heres the link:

Did UCF know about the sickle-cell trait?
Yes. On the day the autopsy report was released, UCF spokesman Grant Heston told the Sentinel the school learned Plancher had the trait during a team physical exam in January 2007.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/or...tml#page=1



This is where all of you are wrong and I dont doubt that I get another warning for not agreeing with a mod...

The huge difference is that KnightBengal and others have tried to put this on the kid and the court clearly showed that it was UCF who did not act appropriately. To compare to USFs death is insane because our kid was never diagnosed, never collapsed multiple times during practice, was not ridiculed by our head coach and did not die as a result of anything USF did. Glass house my ass. UCF fans love to try to deflect and not take responsibilty for all the **** your team has done.

Simple fact is that your coach presided over a practice that ran a kid to his death and your fans try to make it out to be HIS fault and that is ******* disgusting. I havent brought it up in quite a while until one of YOUR fans tried to make it out as the victims fault. So really, get off your high horse and be really honest for once. Your school did a horrible thing and to even compare it to several other accidents where the university was found to not be at fault only makes you look like petty children.

I could so respect UCF if they ever accepted responsibility for anything you do. For christs sake you keep cheating and instead of saying it was wrong all i ever hear is "none of the players made it onto the field." well congrats, you not only suck at ethics but you also suck at cheating. SMDH!

You're just an awful person. No one owes you anything. UCF did accept responsibility and even tried to settle out of court for millions of dollars but the parents/lawyers wanted more money. The fact that your knee jerk response to this no matter what is said during a rivalry smack is just disgusting. USF has had several "problems" over the years including a player being smacked by a coach, players domestic violence, the aforementioned death and etc. However, none of those were brought to light during banter until you went there.

You need to grow up and stop politicizing a tragedy. If I were a mod you would be banned for that nonsense, and it doesn't make it better that you're trying to be all high and mighty about it too. Other USF fans are grown up enough to where they either brush it off or come up with some witty, not you. You're the only one.

Jared, seriously just walk away. Your truly pathetic when you try to spin these things. I wasnt the fan that originally brought it up. check the thread. It was your fan who attempted to blame the victim and there is simply nothing more disgusting then that.

and No, UCF has never accepted responsibility. As of yet they have never issued an apology to the parents and in fact filed motions to dismiss the large award that they got from the jury so that they would only have to pay $200K to the dead players parents.... and youre trying to tell me I am disgusting. Ironic!

(04-03-2015 08:32 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Jared, seriously just walk away. Your truly pathetic when you try to spin these things. I wasnt the fan that originally brought it up. check the thread. It was your fan who attempted to blame the victim and there is simply nothing more disgusting then that.

and No, UCF has never accepted responsibility. As of yet they have never issued an apology to the parents and in fact filed motions to dismiss the large award that they got from the jury so that they would only have to pay $200K to the dead players parents.... and youre trying to tell me I am disgusting. Ironic!

I'll take my insults from someone sharp enough to construct a sentence. At this point, your nonsensical tin foil hat rants are just redundant and based in fiction. I recommend you quit the internet for awhile and pick up a book, or go back to yelling at little league umpires, or something at least a little more constructive.

(04-03-2015 10:37 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 08:32 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Jared, seriously just walk away. Your truly pathetic when you try to spin these things. I wasnt the fan that originally brought it up. check the thread. It was your fan who attempted to blame the victim and there is simply nothing more disgusting then that.

and No, UCF has never accepted responsibility. As of yet they have never issued an apology to the parents and in fact filed motions to dismiss the large award that they got from the jury so that they would only have to pay $200K to the dead players parents.... and youre trying to tell me I am disgusting. Ironic!

I'll take my insults from someone sharp enough to construct a sentence. At this point, your nonsensical tin foil hat rants are just redundant and based in fiction. I recommend you quit the internet for awhile and pick up a book, or go back to yelling at little league umpires, or something at least a little more constructive.

Just give up man that guy doesn't even really know what happened even though he likes to think he does. He will never change his mind. Its only his opinion. No sensible person agrees with him. Best to just walk away. The whole the best way to argue with an idiot is to let him think he won thing. This is his favorite go to story to use to bash UCF because we have passed little usf by in everything. Its sad.

(04-03-2015 10:37 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 08:32 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Jared, seriously just walk away. Your truly pathetic when you try to spin these things. I wasnt the fan that originally brought it up. check the thread. It was your fan who attempted to blame the victim and there is simply nothing more disgusting then that.

and No, UCF has never accepted responsibility. As of yet they have never issued an apology to the parents and in fact filed motions to dismiss the large award that they got from the jury so that they would only have to pay $200K to the dead players parents.... and youre trying to tell me I am disgusting. Ironic!

I'll take my insults from someone sharp enough to construct a sentence. At this point, your nonsensical tin foil hat rants are just redundant and based in fiction. I recommend you quit the internet for awhile and pick up a book, or go back to yelling at little league umpires, or something at least a little more constructive.

and yet again jared, you have proven your just too uniformed and educated to actually take on the argument. You ALWAYS deflect because you cant do anything else. Not a single time have you ever been able to show proof that I am wrong. All you do is claim it, which honestly is ******* sad. So either put up or shut up... and since you cant, Ill expect silence.

hey Zfred, SHH the adults are trying to talk.

(04-03-2015 07:51 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 10:37 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 08:32 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Jared, seriously just walk away. Your truly pathetic when you try to spin these things. I wasnt the fan that originally brought it up. check the thread. It was your fan who attempted to blame the victim and there is simply nothing more disgusting then that.

and No, UCF has never accepted responsibility. As of yet they have never issued an apology to the parents and in fact filed motions to dismiss the large award that they got from the jury so that they would only have to pay $200K to the dead players parents.... and youre trying to tell me I am disgusting. Ironic!

I'll take my insults from someone sharp enough to construct a sentence. At this point, your nonsensical tin foil hat rants are just redundant and based in fiction. I recommend you quit the internet for awhile and pick up a book, or go back to yelling at little league umpires, or something at least a little more constructive.

and yet again jared, you have proven your just too uniformed and educated to actually take on the argument. You ALWAYS deflect because you cant do anything else. Not a single time have you ever been able to show proof that I am wrong. All you do is claim it, which honestly is ******* sad. So either put up or shut up... and since you cant, Ill expect silence.

Deflect? No. We've been through this at least half a dozen times. You are the only usf fan that consistenly brings this up. I've also posted articles and links countering most of what you've said. Alas, you continue despite news and information. You try to come from a place of moral high ground acting as if your school is infallible. What happened was a tragedy not a malicious act of murder. 200k is what was offered because of the limit imposed by law. Apologizing or conceding within the confines of an ongoing lawsuit is admission of culpability, thank God you don't practice law. Leave it alone, it's a friendly rivalry but you always have to be that guy who takes it to the next level. I wasn't cool with it when someone posted your pic bc it's out of bounds just like this. Zfred is right.

Jared, we will never agree. You keep trying to attempt to say it was an accident. It wasnt. Your coach has a history of pushing kids too far and being verbally abusive and in this case, because your medical staff wasnt properly trained nor prepared it resulted in the death of a child. Your coach made this child run after collapsing a minimum of three times. How do you defend that? That is a fact that nobody can counter because it is what happened and the court has ruled. Culpable negligence isnt a tragedy. Its an active engagement or participation leading to the death of someone. In other words, your school was found responsible for being an active part of killing this kid.

Second, the lawsuit has been settled for some time.... and yet no apology. I find that unforgivable.

Now, before we go back and forth again, please go back and read the damn thread. I didnt bring up the subject. I responded to one of your fans that tried to say it was the childs fault. He was WRONG. It is in the court records and confirmed by UCF that they did indeed know that he had sickle cell. For your fan base to try to blame a child for his death is WRONG. I havent said a word about this in some time but if your fanbase is going to attempt to blame a victim you bet like hell ill put a boot in ass and counter such a perverted claim.

You want to let it die, then I am fine with that but each and every time one of your fans posts wrong information about his death or UCF habit of cheating, then I will set the record straight.

(04-03-2015 07:52 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  hey Zfred, SHH the adults are trying to talk.

:(

Are you mad that big bad mean old O'Leary has built UCF into a perennial championship program while little usf just can't seem to get out of the cellar? Lol seems like it. Make up whatever excuses you want to in your head and cry about them on here all you want. It still won't change anything.

Hey Zfred, Ive told you before, when the adults are talking... SHH. We dont need your childish and well, rather uneducated opinions. I mean there is probably some place where someone of your special needs can go and get help but on here, we really dont give a **** what you think.

(04-04-2015 10:04 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Hey Zfred, Ive told you before, when the adults are talking... SHH. We dont need your childish and well, rather uneducated opinions. I mean there is probably some place where someone of your special needs can go and get help but on here, we really dont give a **** what you think.

What did big mean O'Leary ever do to you little girl? Is it the championships?
Classic case of the side effects associated with never winning anything.

And you act like people care when you whine about O'leary lol
You gotta come up with some new material man.

I thought in the special ed classes they taught reading... you really are rather slow Zfred. If you need I can guide you back to the childrens table. Those of us with the ability to have intelligent conversation are attempting to hash something out and your special kind of wacky just isnt needed. No go on... walk away. Well get your helmet and crayons later.