We should make all roads bicycle accessible. Some of you fat asses could use a few miles on a bike.

(03-19-2014 08:17 PM)downsouth Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 02:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 02:09 PM)JTiger Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 01:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 01:49 PM)JTiger Wrote:  Because all car drivers obey the traffic laws and never roll though a stop sign, traffic signal or speed?

That is the worst argument I've ever heard.

Car v Bike...think about it...perhaps the person on a few pounds of aluminum should be aware of those 3,000 pound cars zipping around and plan accordingly.

Treadmills and stationary bikes rarely get run into by cars...just a thought.

Freedom vs. prison... think about it. If you hit someone with your car and kill them it's a crime. Even for an internet tough guy like you.

How much time does a cyclist really cost you? A few seconds to go around him/her. Big deal. You aren't that important that you can't spare a few seconds to get around a bike.

Who the crap rides an aluminum bike? It's all about carbon now.

I wouldn't know...I stopped peddling a bike when I got my car keys.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...rges-dist/

We need more room for cars downtown...so I'm against this plan...simple as that.

Which is exactly the opposite of what most real cities are doing, and people have the nerve to wonder why Memphis is so far behind in almost every category.

No, most real cities are requiring new development to have ample parking with decks contained within they development and the use of liner builds on just decks for retail/office/eateries. Cars are going no where. Wishing them away with public transportation will not make them vanish.

(03-20-2014 06:29 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 08:17 PM)downsouth Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 02:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 02:09 PM)JTiger Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 01:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Car v Bike...think about it...perhaps the person on a few pounds of aluminum should be aware of those 3,000 pound cars zipping around and plan accordingly.

Treadmills and stationary bikes rarely get run into by cars...just a thought.

Freedom vs. prison... think about it. If you hit someone with your car and kill them it's a crime. Even for an internet tough guy like you.

How much time does a cyclist really cost you? A few seconds to go around him/her. Big deal. You aren't that important that you can't spare a few seconds to get around a bike.

Who the crap rides an aluminum bike? It's all about carbon now.

I wouldn't know...I stopped peddling a bike when I got my car keys.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...rges-dist/

We need more room for cars downtown...so I'm against this plan...simple as that.

Which is exactly the opposite of what most real cities are doing, and people have the nerve to wonder why Memphis is so far behind in almost every category.

No, most real cities are requiring new development to have ample parking with decks contained within they development and the use of liner builds on just decks for retail/office/eateries. Cars are going no where. Wishing them away with public transportation will not make them vanish.

I don't think anyone reasonably thinks that cars will go away but there is a reasonable way to have both coexist without this much animosity. It's going to take education to cyclists AND car drivers. Some people you just can't win over and there is nothing you can do about that but they are a dying breed thankfully. Memphis has been behind the curve on the bike friendly path but it's getting there faster than I expected. Good for Memphis.

(03-20-2014 06:29 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 08:17 PM)downsouth Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 02:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 02:09 PM)JTiger Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 01:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Car v Bike...think about it...perhaps the person on a few pounds of aluminum should be aware of those 3,000 pound cars zipping around and plan accordingly.

Treadmills and stationary bikes rarely get run into by cars...just a thought.

Freedom vs. prison... think about it. If you hit someone with your car and kill them it's a crime. Even for an internet tough guy like you.

How much time does a cyclist really cost you? A few seconds to go around him/her. Big deal. You aren't that important that you can't spare a few seconds to get around a bike.

Who the crap rides an aluminum bike? It's all about carbon now.

I wouldn't know...I stopped peddling a bike when I got my car keys.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...rges-dist/

We need more room for cars downtown...so I'm against this plan...simple as that.

Which is exactly the opposite of what most real cities are doing, and people have the nerve to wonder why Memphis is so far behind in almost every category.

No, most real cities are requiring new development to have ample parking with decks contained within they development and the use of liner builds on just decks for retail/office/eateries. Cars are going no where. Wishing them away with public transportation will not make them vanish.

Lol. I'm sure there's a fair bit of discussion over on SSP for you to learn more about this.

Riverside dr is going back to 4 lanes. This article i linked said that less than 19 cyclists used the lanes per day in the first 5 months. I don't buy that. The bike lanes were not used that much, but every time i ride down this stretch, i would see 1-4 more cyclists every time, the occasional walker/jogger, and not very much car traffic in the other lanes (maybe 20 cars at most per trip on this stretch). Anyways, when riverside drive goes back to 4 lanes, i hope they will include a small protected lane on one side of the paved road for cyclists OR we can ride our bikes down the concrete pathways thru tom lee park which could be an issue with so many people walking around the park.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/loc...s_17141209

Until then, i will be sure to ride down riverside drive as much as possible. You can really get some good speed coming down that hill.

just jtiger and his spandex buddies.
there's only about 15 of them

they invited me I wouldn't wear neon tighty whities

No, you joggers wear those one size too small short shorts like it's still the 70s. Spandex under the baggy cargo shorts with a manly mountain bike here bruh. No way i'm looking, well, you know.

Like I need a dedicated bike lane to ride on the street.

This wasn't about bike traffic this was all about Bass Pro getting people from Mississippi to spend money at their store. Riverside drive is the fastest way.

(04-06-2015 04:03 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  just jtiger and his spandex buddies.
there's only about 15 of them

they invited me I wouldn't wear neon tighty whities

We didn't invite you. You're like a stage 5 clinger that wouldn't stop trying to keep up but kept getting dropped.

(04-06-2015 03:34 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  Riverside dr is going back to 4 lanes. This article i linked said that less than 19 cyclists used the lanes per day in the first 5 months. I don't buy that. The bike lanes were not used that much, but every time i ride down this stretch, i would see 1-4 more cyclists every time, the occasional walker/jogger, and not very much car traffic in the other lanes (maybe 20 cars at most per trip on this stretch). Anyways, when riverside drive goes back to 4 lanes, i hope they will include a small protected lane on one side of the paved road for cyclists OR we can ride our bikes down the concrete pathways thru tom lee park which could be an issue with so many people walking around the park.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/loc...s_17141209

Until then, i will be sure to ride down riverside drive as much as possible. You can really get some good speed coming down that hill.

watch out for the pot holes on Riverside drive. they can be a day ender

Hopefully biking will be accommodated in other forms along Riverside Drive. I noticed that was mentioned somewhere. Better accommodations for healthy behavior and exercise is indispensable to a greater quality of life for the region.

Its too dangerous on thyat street

SPLAT

Don't go suing if you get flattened.
THE wb has warned you

(04-07-2015 01:53 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  Its too dangerous on thyat street

SPLAT

Don't go suing if you get flattened.
THE wb has warned you

I rode that street on a bike before the dedicated bike lanes and it's like any other road in Memphis. You just have to stay alert and watch for the potholes and take the lane to stay safer.

Now, will someone who is sane take these damn plastic dividers down thinking they are helping the bike lanes. How do you maintain the bike lanes with street sweepers when they are separated by dividers?

Sand and gravel make for a dangerous bike lane.

stay off the road, spandex boy


SPLAT

(03-17-2014 09:36 AM)JTiger Wrote:  

(03-16-2014 04:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I know people on bikes hate it...but Memphis was never supposed to be this big...our streets are overcrowded as it is...last thing we need to do is jam up downtown even more.

Roads are for cars and trucks...not people in spandex going 15mph

JMHO.

There isn't that much demand for the lanes on Riverside drive as it is.

This is going to tie into the Harahan Bridge project also. This helps make Memphis a cycling destination city as well and brings tourist dollars.

Why do people have such a disdain for cyclist?

14,000 cars a day take Riverside, people going to work downtown and coming off the expressway from Arkansas, and also people going to dine and party and to sports functions downtown. Those are the City's statistics. Their recent statistics on cyclists on the new bike lanes: 19 a day. The traffic is sure to increase with the Bass Pro opening.
The opposition to these bike lanes is all about safety, NOT being bike-averse, as the people opposed have stated over and over. There is PLENTY of room in Riverside Park for these bike lanes, and closer to the view of the river.

I attended the recent meeting put on by the City, and heard all the City's statistics. The number of accidents on Riverside with the current configuration of bike lanes is up substantially, nine in one month alone, and the average speed of cars is also up from 34 mph to 40 mph. There were literally an average of 19 bikers a day recorded by their devices, and 14,000 cars. Most of the speakers at the meeting who live in the highrises and condos along Riverside stressed all the accidents they have seen and the huge traffic jams at certain times of the day and days when there are events downtown and esp. on Sundays when the large crowds try to get into Riverside Park. It has truly been a nightmare for some of the downtown workers getting caught in 45-minute traffic jams when there is a wreck. Pat Halloran spoke about the many patrons of the Orpheum who were missing half of the shows because they got caught in Riverside traffic. Pat Tigrett, one of the biggest proponents of downtown, spoke about the insanity of mixing bikers with the fast cars coming off of the interstate with not enough police to patrol it, and all the room in the world right next to Riverside in the park.

The whole thing was stupid from the get-go when there is tons of room in Riverside Park to put SAFE bike lanes where the river view is much better. It will be a win-win for everyone when this is done. The City tried to shove this down the throats of the citizens of Memphis and those who live and work downtown. The opposition was overwhelming, mainly due to SAFETY and volume of traffic on Riverside, and finally the City had to back down and reconsider a BETTER plan.

(04-08-2015 11:57 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  I attended the recent meeting put on by the City, and heard all the City's statistics. The number of accidents on Riverside with the current configuration of bike lanes is up substantially, nine in one month alone, and the average speed of cars is also up from 34 mph to 40 mph. There were literally an average of 19 bikers a day recorded by their devices, and 14,000 cars. Most of the speakers at the meeting who live in the highrises and condos along Riverside stressed all the accidents they have seen and the huge traffic jams at certain times of the day and days when there are events downtown and esp. on Sundays when the large crowds try to get into Riverside Park. It has truly been a nightmare for some of the downtown workers getting caught in 45-minute traffic jams when there is a wreck. Pat Halloran spoke about the many patrons of the Orpheum who were missing half of the shows because they got caught in Riverside traffic. Pat Tigrett, one of the biggest proponents of downtown, spoke about the insanity of mixing bikers with the fast cars coming off of the interstate with not enough police to patrol it, and all the room in the world right next to Riverside in the park.

The whole thing was stupid from the get-go when there is tons of room in Riverside Park to put SAFE bike lanes where the river view is much better. It will be a win-win for everyone when this is done. The City tried to shove this down the throats of the citizens of Memphis and those who live and work downtown. The opposition was overwhelming, mainly due to SAFETY and volume of traffic on Riverside, and finally the City had to back down and reconsider a BETTER plan.

I like the idea with the dedicated lanes for those that are nervous about riding in traffic but the execution was poor. The lanes were never maintained and gravel and debris were a constant danger. With skinny, high pressure tires that means flats.

I like the share lanes like on Front Street and Central Ave. It's much easier to maintain and conditions motorists to expect cyclists. When there is a dedicated bike lane next to traffic that is not maintained it's perfectly legal to ride in the traffic lane as it is anytime you are a cyclist. However, most motorists seem to think that there is a force field separating the bike lane from the traffic lane and had many close calls and not the required 3' clear.

Make no mistake on this reversal it was about Bass Pro.

I am glad that the city finally owned up to making a stupid decision and eliminated the bike lanes on Riverside Drive.

Now, can we get the town idiots to get off of dead center and get the trolleys repaired and working again? Only in Memphis.

(04-09-2015 07:13 AM)JTiger Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 11:57 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  I attended the recent meeting put on by the City, and heard all the City's statistics. The number of accidents on Riverside with the current configuration of bike lanes is up substantially, nine in one month alone, and the average speed of cars is also up from 34 mph to 40 mph. There were literally an average of 19 bikers a day recorded by their devices, and 14,000 cars. Most of the speakers at the meeting who live in the highrises and condos along Riverside stressed all the accidents they have seen and the huge traffic jams at certain times of the day and days when there are events downtown and esp. on Sundays when the large crowds try to get into Riverside Park. It has truly been a nightmare for some of the downtown workers getting caught in 45-minute traffic jams when there is a wreck. Pat Halloran spoke about the many patrons of the Orpheum who were missing half of the shows because they got caught in Riverside traffic. Pat Tigrett, one of the biggest proponents of downtown, spoke about the insanity of mixing bikers with the fast cars coming off of the interstate with not enough police to patrol it, and all the room in the world right next to Riverside in the park.

The whole thing was stupid from the get-go when there is tons of room in Riverside Park to put SAFE bike lanes where the river view is much better. It will be a win-win for everyone when this is done. The City tried to shove this down the throats of the citizens of Memphis and those who live and work downtown. The opposition was overwhelming, mainly due to SAFETY and volume of traffic on Riverside, and finally the City had to back down and reconsider a BETTER plan.

I like the idea with the dedicated lanes for those that are nervous about riding in traffic but the execution was poor. The lanes were never maintained and gravel and debris were a constant danger. With skinny, high pressure tires that means flats.

I like the share lanes like on Front Street and Central Ave. It's much easier to maintain and conditions motorists to expect cyclists. When there is a dedicated bike lane next to traffic that is not maintained it's perfectly legal to ride in the traffic lane as it is anytime you are a cyclist. However, most motorists seem to think that there is a force field separating the bike lane from the traffic lane and had many close calls and not the required 3' clear.

Make no mistake on this reversal it was about Bass Pro.

It was also about the fact that the cantankerous, ugly public meetings were starting to garner unfavorable publicity for a mayor running for re-election, and the fact that the scheme to route more traffic up on Front Street to all the new businesses blossoming there (the distillery, the Tn. Brewery, et cet., all good things) failed miserably and the residents in that area were beginning to complain. Every City decision is about some developer and money.

(04-09-2015 09:10 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  I am glad that the city finally owned up to making a stupid decision and eliminated the bike lanes on Riverside Drive.

Now, can we get the town idiots to get off of dead center and get the trolleys repaired and working again? Only in Memphis.

The City only owned up because a bunch of Memphians raised all-holy hell at two public meetings. It was downright ugly and the full idiocy of the City's two different spokespersons was on full display. It was a really shocking display because nothing the City was saying made an ounce of sense.