(04-07-2015 10:29 AM)Indytarheel Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 10:21 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Everyone except Wake, GT, VT, Clemson, BC will be competitive. UNC and UVA will be elite. Dook, NCSU, Miami, Louisville will be NCAA Tourney teams. FSU, Pitt, ND, and Syr are wildcards.

Hate to say it but the mutts over in Raleigh have a good shot at a high seed.

Yeah they do. Only losing Ralston Turner with another year of experience. They have no more excuses. At a minimum they should be top 4 in the conference with a seed between 3 or 4 in the NCAA's.

(04-07-2015 10:35 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 10:29 AM)Indytarheel Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 10:21 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Everyone except Wake, GT, VT, Clemson, BC will be competitive. UNC and UVA will be elite. Dook, NCSU, Miami, Louisville will be NCAA Tourney teams. FSU, Pitt, ND, and Syr are wildcards.

Hate to say it but the mutts over in Raleigh have a good shot at a high seed.

Do you think there will be a ruling from the NCAA regarding the UNC-CH paper classes coming down before the start of next season? That could mean sitting out the Tourney next year and losing some scholarships couldn't it?

I would be shocked if it came before next season.

(04-07-2015 11:34 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 10:29 AM)Indytarheel Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 10:21 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Everyone except Wake, GT, VT, Clemson, BC will be competitive. UNC and UVA will be elite. Dook, NCSU, Miami, Louisville will be NCAA Tourney teams. FSU, Pitt, ND, and Syr are wildcards.

Hate to say it but the mutts over in Raleigh have a good shot at a high seed.

Yeah they do. Only losing Ralston Turner with another year of experience. They have no more excuses. At a minimum they should be top 4 in the conference with a seed between 3 or 4 in the NCAA's.

How quickly things can change these days in college hoops. Within a span of about 48 hours State unexpectedly lost two players, and now have only 7 scholarship players for next season. They will have no seniors and no freshmen.

Duke's situation also changed, but for the better. They convinced Derryck Thornton to skip his senior year in high school to join the 2015 recruits. That gives them 3 five star recruits in that class, and they have an excellent chance of adding at least one more Top Ten recruit in Brandon Ingram. They are looking more like Kentucky every day.

I see where Duke added another role player, 6'11" Antonio Vrankovic, bringing their roster to 9 scholarship players and one preferred walkon, with Ingram expected to make his decision within a week.

I think Louisville might have just put themselves back in the elite category. We just added the #1 Grad Transfer Damion Lee from Drexel to our backcourt. He and Trey Lewis from Cleveland St should give us the backcourt experience to push back into that top tier.

So the likelihood of Ingram going to NC State seem very slim. Does anyone have any info about who Gott might have a chance of bringing in once the top recruits commit next week? I certainly hope there are a couple of players out there to fill out the rooster. Freeman was a late pickup a couple of years ago and he has turned out to be an invaluable cog in the machine.

Have we seen the end of teams with 10-12 scholarship players. Are 6 to 8 going to be the new normal with players transferring whenever playing time drops, grad transfers filling gaps and players leveraging mid major productivity into a spot with an elite programs after a one year layoff?

(04-24-2015 04:00 PM)krux Wrote:  I think Louisville might have just put themselves back in the elite category. We just added the #1 Grad Transfer Damion Lee from Drexel to our backcourt. He and Trey Lewis from Cleveland St should give us the backcourt experience to push back into that top tier.

Yup...Louisville should be Top 15 Nationally next year...can see a slow start but come March we will be typical Louisville...

(04-24-2015 08:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  So the likelihood of Ingram going to NC State seem very slim. Does anyone have any info about who Gott might have a chance of bringing in once the top recruits commit next week? I certainly hope there are a couple of players out there to fill out the rooster. Freeman was a late pickup a couple of years ago and he has turned out to be an invaluable cog in the machine.

Have we seen the end of teams with 10-12 scholarship players. Are 6 to 8 going to be the new normal with players transferring whenever playing time drops, grad transfers filling gaps and players leveraging mid major productivity into a spot with an elite programs after a one year layoff?

State currently has one outstanding offer on the table for the class of 2015. That is GodsPower (not a joke) Ogide, a 6-10 center from Rochester, NY. He has no star rating from any of the major scouting services, and has other offers from LaSalle, Rider, Liberty, Temple, Eastern Michigan and Southeastern Louisiana.

The Pack has also reached out to Anton Grady, a graduate transfer from Cleveland State. He is a 6-8 forward who average 14 ppg last season, and would be immediately eligible for his one remaining season.

Boeheim usually does his best work with undervalued teams

I see a Top 25 team...how much more????

(04-25-2015 11:31 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 08:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Does anyone have any info about who Gott might have a chance of bringing in once the top recruits commit next week? I certainly hope there are a couple of players out there to fill out the roster.

State currently has one outstanding offer on the table for the class of 2015. That is GodsPower (not a joke) Ogide, a 6-10 center from Rochester, NY. He has no star rating from any of the major scouting services, and has other offers from LaSalle, Rider, Liberty, Temple, Eastern Michigan and Southeastern Louisiana.

Ouch.

(04-25-2015 11:31 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 08:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  So the likelihood of Ingram going to NC State seem very slim. Does anyone have any info about who Gott might have a chance of bringing in once the top recruits commit next week? I certainly hope there are a couple of players out there to fill out the rooster. Freeman was a late pickup a couple of years ago and he has turned out to be an invaluable cog in the machine.

Have we seen the end of teams with 10-12 scholarship players. Are 6 to 8 going to be the new normal with players transferring whenever playing time drops, grad transfers filling gaps and players leveraging mid major productivity into a spot with an elite programs after a one year layoff?

State currently has one outstanding offer on the table for the class of 2015. That is GodsPower (not a joke) Ogide, a 6-10 center from Rochester, NY. He has no star rating from any of the major scouting services, and has other offers from LaSalle, Rider, Liberty, Temple, Eastern Michigan and Southeastern Louisiana.

The Pack has also reached out to Anton Grady, a graduate transfer from Cleveland State. He is a 6-8 forward who average 14 ppg last season, and would be immediately eligible for his one remaining season.

Interesting. I've never heard of this kid and I follow some of games and scores and highlites pretty regularly.

(04-25-2015 03:08 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 11:31 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 08:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  So the likelihood of Ingram going to NC State seem very slim. Does anyone have any info about who Gott might have a chance of bringing in once the top recruits commit next week? I certainly hope there are a couple of players out there to fill out the rooster. Freeman was a late pickup a couple of years ago and he has turned out to be an invaluable cog in the machine.

Have we seen the end of teams with 10-12 scholarship players. Are 6 to 8 going to be the new normal with players transferring whenever playing time drops, grad transfers filling gaps and players leveraging mid major productivity into a spot with an elite programs after a one year layoff?

State currently has one outstanding offer on the table for the class of 2015. That is GodsPower (not a joke) Ogide, a 6-10 center from Rochester, NY. He has no star rating from any of the major scouting services, and has other offers from LaSalle, Rider, Liberty, Temple, Eastern Michigan and Southeastern Louisiana.

The Pack has also reached out to Anton Grady, a graduate transfer from Cleveland State. He is a 6-8 forward who average 14 ppg last season, and would be immediately eligible for his one remaining season.

Interesting. I've never heard of this kid and I follow some of games and scores and highlites pretty regularly.

I googled him. He played at Bishop Keaney in Rochester in 12-13 when he was a junior and it appears he was at some place called Pace Academy in Chapel Hill and then Bull City Academy which must be in Durham since it is the Bull city. I haven't every heard of either of them before but then we have these basketball factory "schools" popping all over the state. It appears that he prepped a year as he was listed as a junior in 12-13. He might be a good pickup and State appears to be the highest profile team offering him at this point.

(04-25-2015 03:47 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 03:08 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 11:31 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 08:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  So the likelihood of Ingram going to NC State seem very slim. Does anyone have any info about who Gott might have a chance of bringing in once the top recruits commit next week? I certainly hope there are a couple of players out there to fill out the rooster. Freeman was a late pickup a couple of years ago and he has turned out to be an invaluable cog in the machine.

Have we seen the end of teams with 10-12 scholarship players. Are 6 to 8 going to be the new normal with players transferring whenever playing time drops, grad transfers filling gaps and players leveraging mid major productivity into a spot with an elite programs after a one year layoff?

State currently has one outstanding offer on the table for the class of 2015. That is GodsPower (not a joke) Ogide, a 6-10 center from Rochester, NY. He has no star rating from any of the major scouting services, and has other offers from LaSalle, Rider, Liberty, Temple, Eastern Michigan and Southeastern Louisiana.

The Pack has also reached out to Anton Grady, a graduate transfer from Cleveland State. He is a 6-8 forward who average 14 ppg last season, and would be immediately eligible for his one remaining season.

Interesting. I've never heard of this kid and I follow some of games and scores and highlites pretty regularly.

I googled him. He played at Bishop Keaney in Rochester in 12-13 when he was a junior and it appears he was at some place called Pace Academy in Chapel Hill and then Bull City Academy which must be in Durham since it is the Bull city. I haven't every heard of either of them before but then we have these basketball factory "schools" popping all over the state. It appears that he prepped a year as he was listed as a junior in 12-13. He might be a good pickup and State appears to be the highest profile team offering him at this point.

Bishiop Kearney turns out a lot of college talent. If he played there in 12=13 he played with Thomas Bryant and was probably overshadowed by him. He would have been much better off staying at BK, since it is a known quantity for talent in both bb and fb.

(04-25-2015 06:37 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 03:47 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 03:08 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(04-25-2015 11:31 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 08:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  So the likelihood of Ingram going to NC State seem very slim. Does anyone have any info about who Gott might have a chance of bringing in once the top recruits commit next week? I certainly hope there are a couple of players out there to fill out the rooster. Freeman was a late pickup a couple of years ago and he has turned out to be an invaluable cog in the machine.

Have we seen the end of teams with 10-12 scholarship players. Are 6 to 8 going to be the new normal with players transferring whenever playing time drops, grad transfers filling gaps and players leveraging mid major productivity into a spot with an elite programs after a one year layoff?

State currently has one outstanding offer on the table for the class of 2015. That is GodsPower (not a joke) Ogide, a 6-10 center from Rochester, NY. He has no star rating from any of the major scouting services, and has other offers from LaSalle, Rider, Liberty, Temple, Eastern Michigan and Southeastern Louisiana.

The Pack has also reached out to Anton Grady, a graduate transfer from Cleveland State. He is a 6-8 forward who average 14 ppg last season, and would be immediately eligible for his one remaining season.

Interesting. I've never heard of this kid and I follow some of games and scores and highlites pretty regularly.

I googled him. He played at Bishop Keaney in Rochester in 12-13 when he was a junior and it appears he was at some place called Pace Academy in Chapel Hill and then Bull City Academy which must be in Durham since it is the Bull city. I haven't every heard of either of them before but then we have these basketball factory "schools" popping all over the state. It appears that he prepped a year as he was listed as a junior in 12-13. He might be a good pickup and State appears to be the highest profile team offering him at this point.

Bishiop Kearney turns out a lot of college talent. If he played there in 12=13 he played with Thomas Bryant and was probably overshadowed by him. He would have been much better off staying at BK, since it is a known quantity for talent in both bb and fb.

It seems a lot of players are gypsies these days, jumping from one school to another beginning in high school. It is no wonder there are so many transfers at the college level. Yow said there were 700 last year and 450 and counting this year. Given that I guess the odds of the Pack picking up an insurance guard and forward is pretty good. Heck GT during the Crimins years never seemed to play more than 6 and they were darn good teams.

Ingram's announcement presser scheduled for 6:10 this evening. I'll be surprised if it's anybody but Duke. Interesting that he has moved up on the ESPN100 list from #12 to #3 in the past week. There are only 3 top ten prospects still uncommitted. The others are #4 Jaylen Brown, expected to pick between Cal and Michigan, and #7 Cheick Diallo, with St John's the most likely (though he hasn't given any indication to date, and won't announce until late next week).

Kentucky has been surprisingly quiet this year, despite their mass exodus to the NBA. The Wildcats return five scholarship players (1 SR, 3 JRs and 1 SO), and have signed only three in the class of 2015. Their top recruit, Skal Labissiere, has not yet qualified academically to play in the NCAA next year. They are still involved with Thon Maker, a 7-footer who is considering reclassifying from the class of 2016.

(04-27-2015 12:24 PM)ken d Wrote:  Ingram's announcement presser scheduled for 6:10 this evening. I'll be surprised if it's anybody but Duke. Interesting that he has moved up on the ESPN100 list from #12 to #3 in the past week.

Only thing that changed in the last week is the likelihood that he's going to Duke. All recruiting services play games with their ratings for both major sports. If he was committing to a school outside the core of blue blood schools he'd likely have fallen a bit.