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Cards fans - any rumors about where Gill goes?
Sophomore guard Anton Gill has announced he will transfer from Louisville at the end of the semester. Apparently Pitino is placing no restrictions on where he goes from here. He's from Raleigh and NC State has a lot of scholarships available. Gottfried has relied heavily on transfers so far (there were four on the roster this year, counting one who wasn't yet eligible to play). Any chance this is yet another?

Of the 8 players the Pack is projected to have for the 2016 season (five seniors and three juniors) only two are guards. Too soon to tell who the Pack might sign for that class. Of course, if Gill had wanted to stay in Raleigh he could have done that a couple of years ago, so odds are he's looking elsewhere. Any scuttlebutt?
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RE: Cards fans - any rumors about where Gill goes?
Doesn't the ACC have a rule that in-conference transfers have to sit two years?
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RE: Cards fans - any rumors about where Gill goes?
(03-31-2015 06:22 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  Doesn't the ACC have a rule that in-conference transfers have to sit two years?

They do.
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RE: Cards fans - any rumors about where Gill goes?
(03-31-2015 06:22 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  Doesn't the ACC have a rule that in-conference transfers have to sit two years?

I can't speak to that, but if that is a blanket rule than that may further explain why Pitino put no restrictions on the transfer. I was surprised to not see the ACC off limits in his release from Louisville.

Pitino either truly wanted him to go anywhere he wanted or if that is a conference rule than a kid who is willing to sit out two years has the right to go anywhere.

As alluded to above, UNC-Wilmington is just a guess by UofL fans since former UofL assistant Kevin Keatts took over there last year. He's still very close to Pitino and the team, and was even up in Syracuse for the East regional this past weekend with the team.
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RE: Cards fans - any rumors about where Gill goes?
(03-31-2015 06:22 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  Doesn't the ACC have a rule that in-conference transfers have to sit two years?

Not exactly. From the Duke athletics website comes this explanation:

ACC Transfer Rule
A student-athlete who transfers directly to an ACC institution from another ACC institution, where they were recruited and/or received any athletically related financial aid during the academic year immediately prior to the transfer is required to complete the following:

• One academic year (2 full semesters) of residency at the certifying ACC institution before being eligible to compete or to receive athletically related financial aid
• This year of residency counts for one of the student-athletes four permissible seasons of competition.
• During this year of residency the student may practice.
• A transfer student-athlete admitted after the twelfth day of class may not utilize that semester or quarter for the purpose of establishing residency.


The second bullet point is the key. While the player doesn't have to wait for two years, the year he does wait counts against his four years of eligibility. So if Gill were to transfer to an ACC school, he would only have one year left to play. Any other school and he will have two years left. So it has the same effect as if he had to sit two years.
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(03-31-2015 08:43 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-31-2015 06:22 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  Doesn't the ACC have a rule that in-conference transfers have to sit two years?

Not exactly. From the Duke athletics website comes this explanation:

ACC Transfer Rule
A student-athlete who transfers directly to an ACC institution from another ACC institution, where they were recruited and/or received any athletically related financial aid during the academic year immediately prior to the transfer is required to complete the following:

• One academic year (2 full semesters) of residency at the certifying ACC institution before being eligible to compete or to receive athletically related financial aid
• This year of residency counts for one of the student-athletes four permissible seasons of competition.
• During this year of residency the student may practice.
• A transfer student-athlete admitted after the twelfth day of class may not utilize that semester or quarter for the purpose of establishing residency.


The second bullet point is the key. While the player doesn't have to wait for two years, the year he does wait counts against his four years of eligibility. So if Gill were to transfer to an ACC school, he would only have one year left to play. Any other school and he will have two years left. So it has the same effect as if he had to sit two years.

The way I'm reading the first bullet is that he would have to pay his own tuition, fees, books, etc. himself during that residency year as well.
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RE: Cards fans - any rumors about where Gill goes?
UNC Wilmington, he wants to go someplace where he can start right away.
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RE: Cards fans - any rumors about where Gill goes?
(03-31-2015 10:09 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(03-31-2015 08:43 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-31-2015 06:22 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  Doesn't the ACC have a rule that in-conference transfers have to sit two years?

Not exactly. From the Duke athletics website comes this explanation:

ACC Transfer Rule
A student-athlete who transfers directly to an ACC institution from another ACC institution, where they were recruited and/or received any athletically related financial aid during the academic year immediately prior to the transfer is required to complete the following:

• One academic year (2 full semesters) of residency at the certifying ACC institution before being eligible to compete or to receive athletically related financial aid
• This year of residency counts for one of the student-athletes four permissible seasons of competition.
• During this year of residency the student may practice.
• A transfer student-athlete admitted after the twelfth day of class may not utilize that semester or quarter for the purpose of establishing residency.


The second bullet point is the key. While the player doesn't have to wait for two years, the year he does wait counts against his four years of eligibility. So if Gill were to transfer to an ACC school, he would only have one year left to play. Any other school and he will have two years left. So it has the same effect as if he had to sit two years.

The way I'm reading the first bullet is that he would have to pay his own tuition, fees, books, etc. himself during that residency year as well.

You are correct. Those two things essentially make this a "poison pill" preventing transfers within the conference while appearing to allow them.
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RE: Cards fans - any rumors about where Gill goes?
(04-01-2015 08:37 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-31-2015 10:09 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(03-31-2015 08:43 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-31-2015 06:22 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  Doesn't the ACC have a rule that in-conference transfers have to sit two years?

Not exactly. From the Duke athletics website comes this explanation:

ACC Transfer Rule
A student-athlete who transfers directly to an ACC institution from another ACC institution, where they were recruited and/or received any athletically related financial aid during the academic year immediately prior to the transfer is required to complete the following:

• One academic year (2 full semesters) of residency at the certifying ACC institution before being eligible to compete or to receive athletically related financial aid
• This year of residency counts for one of the student-athletes four permissible seasons of competition.
• During this year of residency the student may practice.
• A transfer student-athlete admitted after the twelfth day of class may not utilize that semester or quarter for the purpose of establishing residency.


The second bullet point is the key. While the player doesn't have to wait for two years, the year he does wait counts against his four years of eligibility. So if Gill were to transfer to an ACC school, he would only have one year left to play. Any other school and he will have two years left. So it has the same effect as if he had to sit two years.

The way I'm reading the first bullet is that he would have to pay his own tuition, fees, books, etc. himself during that residency year as well.

You are correct. Those two things essentially make this a "poison pill" preventing transfers within the conference while appearing to allow them.

Net result: if steers transfer players to leave the conference, thus possibly taking future NCAA units out of the ACC and sending them to a rival conference... makes perfect sense.
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(04-01-2015 07:52 AM)dbacard Wrote:  UNC Wilmington, he wants to go someplace where he can start right away.

Might East Carolina not also give him that kind of opportunity, while also putting him in a conference with some quality competition? They have a pretty good coach there who knows a little about guard play.
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RE: Cards fans - any rumors about where Gill goes?
(04-01-2015 09:29 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 07:52 AM)dbacard Wrote:  UNC Wilmington, he wants to go someplace where he can start right away.

Might East Carolina not also give him that kind of opportunity, while also putting him in a conference with some quality competition? They have a pretty good coach there who knows a little about guard play.

UNCW's head coach was an assistant at UL when he was there. He was also Gill's coach at Hargrave Academy.

UNCW is a safe bet for where he lands. They'll be a favorite to win the CAA next year. They also have two solid transfers from Charlotte that will be eligible the next two years. One has all-conference level talent for the CAA and they other one will provide decent to good depth off the bench. Throw in Gill and they'll have a great team.

And Lebo a pretty good coach? 03-lmfao Lebo is a terrible coach. Hes 87-80 at ECU with probably 15+ of those wins coming against DII/NAIA programs. His conference record is 33-49.

He's also hasn't had much luck keeping players around.
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(04-01-2015 09:29 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 07:52 AM)dbacard Wrote:  UNC Wilmington, he wants to go someplace where he can start right away.

Might East Carolina not also give him that kind of opportunity, while also putting him in a conference with some quality competition? They have a pretty good coach there who knows a little about guard play.

Take this for what it's worth, which may not be much. There's a thread on the UofL Scout board where someone claims that a friend of a friend has been told by Anton that he's headed to ECU. I wouldn't even bother to share an unsubstantiated rumor if you hadn't mentioned ECU previously.
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(04-04-2015 05:05 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 09:29 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 07:52 AM)dbacard Wrote:  UNC Wilmington, he wants to go someplace where he can start right away.

Might East Carolina not also give him that kind of opportunity, while also putting him in a conference with some quality competition? They have a pretty good coach there who knows a little about guard play.

UNCW's head coach was an assistant at UL when he was there. He was also Gill's coach at Hargrave Academy.

UNCW is a safe bet for where he lands. They'll be a favorite to win the CAA next year. They also have two solid transfers from Charlotte that will be eligible the next two years. One has all-conference level talent for the CAA and they other one will provide decent to good depth off the bench. Throw in Gill and they'll have a great team.

And Lebo a pretty good coach? 03-lmfao Lebo is a terrible coach. Hes 87-80 at ECU with probably 15+ of those wins coming against DII/NAIA programs. His conference record is 33-49.

He's also hasn't had much luck keeping players around.

Actually being 87-80 at ECU would be an indication that he is a GOOD coach. Keeping players around is pretty much a problem everywhere.
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So Gill is headed to Nebraska. I don't think anyone saw that as a likely destination.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...o-nebraska
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