(10-09-2015 06:43 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 04:37 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 04:11 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 10:44 AM)stever20 Wrote:  The 2 game series would be a huge problem. Take Colorado. if they have back to back 2 game sets- they could travel to San Francisco and then Los Angeles.

Also, 3 conferences just isn't happening. What you said would have NO interleague play. That's just DOA.

Also anything would have the big elephant in the room- the DH.

DH should be universal...Done, problem solved. I don't love the DH, but if the AL is never going to get rid of it, the NL has to adopt it. Ridiculous that 2 leagues are operating with different sets of rules.

And you wouldn't need interleague play if you realigned the leagues and divisions. If the Mets regularly played the Yankees and Sox you wouldn't need them to go to the west coast. And can you imagine how happy the players would be if they didn't have to make any cross country trips, or at least far less of them?

DH isn't coming to the NL ever.

And you are absolutely kidding yourself if you think interleague play is ever going away.

The only change that might happen as a result of Pittsburgh is seeding teams w/o regard to divisions for playoffs. Even there it's not likely to happen.

Absolutely disagree. We will definitely see the DH in the NL within the next decade.

I'm not so much saying that interleague play will go away, as it would no longer be needed in my alignment. Obviously this won't happen, it was just my suggestion to lessen the impact of some of the league's problems

I hate the DH with a burning passion, but balancing the NL and AL and creating daily interleague play represents the death knell of the senior circuits opposition. As Wedge recently pointed out, DH is universal across all of the minor leagues.

As for a realignment that essentially eliminates the NL and AL, I find that to be a tougher nut to crack. The best I could come up with is;

PACIFIC: SD, LAL, LAA, SF, OAK, SEA
MIDWEST: HOU, TEX, KC, MIN, AZ, DEN
CENTRAL: STL, MIL, DET, PIT, CHW, CHC
NORTHEAST: NYY, BOS, CLE, TOR, BAL, CIN
ATLANTIC: ATL, DC, MIA, PHI, NYM, TB

saw this:
None of the last 4 World Series winners has snapped a drought longer than 5 seasons without a World Series title. But this year, at the very least a drought of 22 years will end. This hasn't happened since the 2010 Giants broke a 55-year drought.

lets look-
Cubs 1908
Rangers never- joined 1961
Astros never- joined 1962
Kansas City 1985
NY Mets 1986
LA Dodgers 1988
Toronto 1993

Also will be interesting to see- the pennant droughts that could end
Chicago 1945
Los Angeles 1988
Toronto 1993
NY Mets 2000
Houston 2005
Texas 2011

(10-14-2015 01:11 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 06:43 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 04:37 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 04:11 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 10:44 AM)stever20 Wrote:  The 2 game series would be a huge problem. Take Colorado. if they have back to back 2 game sets- they could travel to San Francisco and then Los Angeles.

Also, 3 conferences just isn't happening. What you said would have NO interleague play. That's just DOA.

Also anything would have the big elephant in the room- the DH.

DH should be universal...Done, problem solved. I don't love the DH, but if the AL is never going to get rid of it, the NL has to adopt it. Ridiculous that 2 leagues are operating with different sets of rules.

And you wouldn't need interleague play if you realigned the leagues and divisions. If the Mets regularly played the Yankees and Sox you wouldn't need them to go to the west coast. And can you imagine how happy the players would be if they didn't have to make any cross country trips, or at least far less of them?

DH isn't coming to the NL ever.

And you are absolutely kidding yourself if you think interleague play is ever going away.

The only change that might happen as a result of Pittsburgh is seeding teams w/o regard to divisions for playoffs. Even there it's not likely to happen.

Absolutely disagree. We will definitely see the DH in the NL within the next decade.

I'm not so much saying that interleague play will go away, as it would no longer be needed in my alignment. Obviously this won't happen, it was just my suggestion to lessen the impact of some of the league's problems

I hate the DH with a burning passion, but balancing the NL and AL and creating daily interleague play represents the death knell of the senior circuits opposition. As Wedge recently pointed out, DH is universal across all of the minor leagues.

And in college and high school. Fact is, in today's game pitchers are less baseball players/athletes and more just 'pitchers.' They're extremely specialized and as you said they don't work on hitting throughout any level. Frankly it's stupid to put such an expensive asset up to bat when he's barely had any training. If the DH is never going to be removed from the NL, there's only one other option. Because continuing to have 2 different sets of rules is irrational.

OH MY GOSH!!!!! You talk about an absolutely insane thing- if this game ends 3-2 Rangers- this may be the most amazing deciding run I've ever seen.

and Texas now with back to back to back errors. a 7th inning to never forget for sure.

Good god, now Odor misjudges a little bloop and the tying run scores. Worst inning ever

Bautista outta here!

One game has the Astros pen coughing up the game and in this one it's the Rangers defense

saw this:
Since Texas @GovAbbott’s premature congrats tweet, Astros & Rangers outscored 28-9 & lost all 4 games in ALDS

oops.

saw this:
2015 will be 1st postseason in which all 4 LCS teams have NOT won a World Series title in previous 20 seasons (LCS began in 1969)

$300+ million and still can't get out of the NLDS. Hilarious

Go Jays

I think for the Cubs, this is really best case scenario....

Mets starters in this series-
game 1 Harvey
game 2 Syndergaard?(he pitched last night)
game 3 de Grom
game 4 Matz?

meanwhile the Cubs have their pitching set almost perfectly. Lester/Arrieta in games 1/2. Also, with Harvey, going to be real interesting to see how he fares as the series goes along(same can be said with de Grom, he's now up to 204 innings- 25 already more than his career high last year.).

(10-16-2015 08:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I think for the Cubs, this is really best case scenario....

Mets starters in this series-
game 1 Harvey
game 2 Syndergaard?(he pitched last night)
game 3 de Grom
game 4 Matz?

meanwhile the Cubs have their pitching set almost perfectly. Lester/Arrieta in games 1/2. Also, with Harvey, going to be real interesting to see how he fares as the series goes along(same can be said with de Grom, he's now up to 204 innings- 25 already more than his career high last year.).

Yeah I think the Cubs probably have the pitching advantage. I assume Syndergaard will make his start on Sunday, as he only pitched 1 inning last night, which you might as well just assume counts as his day to throw a pen on the side.

Man, crazy couple of days as a Jays fan. That 7th inning was incredible, on both sides, might have been the most exciting baseball game I've ever seen. No matter how well the Jays do this year, I'm damn proud of them and both of these series should be fantastic. For those that don't know, the Jays and Royals got into a few times during the regular season, so add that with the emotion of the Postseason and it should be an entertaining series.

(10-16-2015 11:10 AM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  Man, crazy couple of days as a Jays fan. That 7th inning was incredible, on both sides, might have been the most exciting baseball game I've ever seen. No matter how well the Jays do this year, I'm damn proud of them and both of these series should be fantastic. For those that don't know, the Jays and Royals got into a few times during the regular season, so add that with the emotion of the Postseason and it should be an entertaining series.

Oh yeah, wasn't the entire weekend of one series 3 straight heated games???

I'm stoked for that series. Absolutely rooting for the Jays. Although I really just want the team with the best chance of beating either the Cubs or Mets

I think the game I'm looking forward to is game 2- Price starts that game. It'll be real interesting to see how that one goes.....

(10-16-2015 09:37 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 08:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I think for the Cubs, this is really best case scenario....

Mets starters in this series-
game 1 Harvey
game 2 Syndergaard?(he pitched last night)
game 3 de Grom
game 4 Matz?

meanwhile the Cubs have their pitching set almost perfectly. Lester/Arrieta in games 1/2. Also, with Harvey, going to be real interesting to see how he fares as the series goes along(same can be said with de Grom, he's now up to 204 innings- 25 already more than his career high last year.).

Yeah I think the Cubs probably have the pitching advantage. I assume Syndergaard will make his start on Sunday, as he only pitched 1 inning last night, which you might as well just assume counts as his day to throw a pen on the side.

maybe not:
Terry Collins says his Game 2 starter is dependent on how Noah Syndergaard feels after throwing more than 100 pitches in the bullpen Thursday. "So if he's still tender tomorrow, he's probably not going to be Game 2 guy."

So could be Colon then??? Or would Matz be available?

(10-16-2015 05:39 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 09:37 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 08:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I think for the Cubs, this is really best case scenario....

Mets starters in this series-
game 1 Harvey
game 2 Syndergaard?(he pitched last night)
game 3 de Grom
game 4 Matz?

meanwhile the Cubs have their pitching set almost perfectly. Lester/Arrieta in games 1/2. Also, with Harvey, going to be real interesting to see how he fares as the series goes along(same can be said with de Grom, he's now up to 204 innings- 25 already more than his career high last year.).

Yeah I think the Cubs probably have the pitching advantage. I assume Syndergaard will make his start on Sunday, as he only pitched 1 inning last night, which you might as well just assume counts as his day to throw a pen on the side.

maybe not:
Terry Collins says his Game 2 starter is dependent on how Noah Syndergaard feels after throwing more than 100 pitches in the bullpen Thursday. "So if he's still tender tomorrow, he's probably not going to be Game 2 guy."

So could be Colon then??? Or would Matz be available?

yeah i saw that, but I wonder how many he throws in a normal pen. It's probably a decent amount.

But yeah if they have to throw Colon it could be ugly. The Cubs can mash, especially now that Soler is raking. Losing Russell hurts, but Baez looked pretty good, so it might not be a huge loss

I wouldn't think the normal pen session would be as intense as you are trying to get ready for possibly going into the game though.