(03-31-2015 03:01 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 01:40 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  I feel like this is targeted at the likes of Longwood and others that probably should think about whether D1 makes sense with the number of students they have and the demographics they serve.

It's a political stunt.

BTW, both VT and UVa raised tuition and fees this week by 3.9% and 3.8% respectively. UVa increased tuition for entering freshmen by 11%.

Big boys doing what they want. For 2016, the three most expensive schools in Virginia will be W&M, UVA, and VT (not including VMI in that group due to their military fee). W&M is nearly $10,000/year more than JMU or ODU...yea, cutting our $1300 athletic fee by $300 is really going to help the average student. UVa is roughly $5000 more. W&M doesn't get targeted at all by this bill.

ODU and JMU are the 4th and 5th cheapest. Yet the athletic fee light shines on us. Politics.

VT is 7th in total cost of attendance. Every University will be increasing some this year so the relative totals won't change a lot.

http://www.schev.edu/Reportstats/Tuition...Report.pdf

Why does a school like Longwood with a tuition of $6,900 need an athletic fee of $1,800? That's insane.

An athletic fee of $1331/year for 4 years is $5324

So after 4 years at JMU you will have paid $5400 a year for tuition and educational fees and basically another year's worth of tuition just on athletics fees.

(03-31-2015 05:47 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  An athletic fee of $1331/year for 4 years is $5324

So after 4 years at JMU you will have paid $5400 a year for tuition and educational fees and basically another year's worth of tuition just on athletics fees.

And yet we still are cheaper than VT.

It would be nice to have the ACC revenue, but we don't. You must forget the hellish time VT went through as an independent, or even when VT was football only. If it went for Warner in 2004, you might be in a similar spot today.

(03-31-2015 07:01 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 05:47 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  An athletic fee of $1331/year for 4 years is $5324

So after 4 years at JMU you will have paid $5400 a year for tuition and educational fees and basically another year's worth of tuition just on athletics fees.

And yet we still are cheaper than VT.

It would be nice to have the ACC revenue, but we don't. You must forget the hellish time VT went through as an independent, or even when VT was football only. If it went for Warner in 2004, you might be in a similar spot today.

You are less than 1k per year cheaper and that's because your professors aren't being paid as much. You don't have as many engineering and science based degrees either. You are overpaying to go to JMU just so you can have a football team.

Season tickets to VT football are more than the activity fee.

If VT's fees were over 1k per year I'd be complaining about them too.

(03-31-2015 07:08 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 07:01 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 05:47 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  An athletic fee of $1331/year for 4 years is $5324

So after 4 years at JMU you will have paid $5400 a year for tuition and educational fees and basically another year's worth of tuition just on athletics fees.

And yet we still are cheaper than VT.

It would be nice to have the ACC revenue, but we don't. You must forget the hellish time VT went through as an independent, or even when VT was football only. If it went for Warner in 2004, you might be in a similar spot today.

You are less than 1k per year cheaper and that's because your professors aren't being paid as much. You don't have as many engineering and science based degrees either. You are overpaying to go to JMU just so you can have a football team.

Season tickets to VT football are more than the activity fee.

If VT's fees were over 1k per year I'd be complaining about them too.

You are missing the point. This legislation reduces JMU fees by next to nothing, while the autonomous schools of VT, UVa, and W&M are jacking tuition with no push back. UVa and W&M are over $26,000 for instate students entering school in 2016. Yet we have politicians masquerading minimal cuts to athletic fees as "reigning in higher ed costs".

(03-31-2015 07:48 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 07:08 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 07:01 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 05:47 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  An athletic fee of $1331/year for 4 years is $5324

So after 4 years at JMU you will have paid $5400 a year for tuition and educational fees and basically another year's worth of tuition just on athletics fees.

And yet we still are cheaper than VT.

It would be nice to have the ACC revenue, but we don't. You must forget the hellish time VT went through as an independent, or even when VT was football only. If it went for Warner in 2004, you might be in a similar spot today.

You are less than 1k per year cheaper and that's because your professors aren't being paid as much. You don't have as many engineering and science based degrees either. You are overpaying to go to JMU just so you can have a football team.

Season tickets to VT football are more than the activity fee.

If VT's fees were over 1k per year I'd be complaining about them too.

You are missing the point. This legislation reduces JMU fees by next to nothing, while the autonomous schools of VT, UVa, and W&M are jacking tuition with no push back. UVa and W&M are over $26,000 for instate students entering school in 2016. Yet we have politicians masquerading minimal cuts to athletic fees as "reigning in higher ed costs".

They are raising the cost of tuition. They aren't raising the cost of fees. Students should be getting benefit from their tuition if the administration knows what they are doing. High athletics fees will not help students learn anything.

(03-31-2015 08:35 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 07:48 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 07:08 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 07:01 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 05:47 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  An athletic fee of $1331/year for 4 years is $5324

So after 4 years at JMU you will have paid $5400 a year for tuition and educational fees and basically another year's worth of tuition just on athletics fees.

And yet we still are cheaper than VT.

It would be nice to have the ACC revenue, but we don't. You must forget the hellish time VT went through as an independent, or even when VT was football only. If it went for Warner in 2004, you might be in a similar spot today.

You are less than 1k per year cheaper and that's because your professors aren't being paid as much. You don't have as many engineering and science based degrees either. You are overpaying to go to JMU just so you can have a football team.

Season tickets to VT football are more than the activity fee.

If VT's fees were over 1k per year I'd be complaining about them too.

You are missing the point. This legislation reduces JMU fees by next to nothing, while the autonomous schools of VT, UVa, and W&M are jacking tuition with no push back. UVa and W&M are over $26,000 for instate students entering school in 2016. Yet we have politicians masquerading minimal cuts to athletic fees as "reigning in higher ed costs".

They are raising the cost of tuition. They aren't raising the cost of fees. Students should be getting benefit from their tuition if the administration knows what they are doing. High athletics fees will not help students learn anything.

Does the increased "tuition" cover new cafeterias, dorms, etc? Just curious; given the seemingly arms race amonst schools to become Club Med.